And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
The Indoctrination Theory is a weak minded delusion
#726
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:33
#727
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:33
Modifié par dreman9999, 16 juin 2012 - 05:34 .
#728
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:33
HagarIshay wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
1.it makes more sense for the reapers to try to take out the whole fleet as well.
2. that will presumably be answers in EC...
however it is possibe that IT can be a way to actually defeat the repears. (my personal speculation at this point)
in my eyes I view IT as a huge, epic mental boss battle with harbinger. perhaps, after choosing detroy, harbinger is destroyed in the real-world, or maybe even the reaper fleets shields are taken down. (similar to how killing saren disabled sovereign in me1), this then allows the alliance fleet to have fair odds in destroying the reapers and a chance for your war-assets and choices to shine.
1. Can they do that? If they can, then why not?
2. The reapers are independet, no? If one reaper's shield has been taken out, does it mean every other reaper got his sheild taken out?
1. isnt that what the point of battle is? one side try to beat the other?
2. the reapers have a consensus.
and thats just a way to explain it- just to show that it can be done.
Modifié par llbountyhunter, 16 juin 2012 - 05:35 .
#729
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:34
#730
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:35
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
Very good point. I think Anti ITers skip such crucial information often, or say ITers are digging too deep.
What is deep in a complex story?
#731
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:36
OrginaVendor wrote...
As I said(didnt read that post, i think), They probably never got the chance(the destroyers shepard faced were all pretty much dead already) and didn't bother putting extra effort into taking down shepard(like sending in a reaper fleet to Tuchanka or Rannoch immediately). As for Thessia, i don't think the reapers took notice, honestly.
I realise this is me trying to find an explanation that supports my viewpoint but it is at least somewhat reasonable, yes? Even if viewed as a plothole, IT is one of the better theories that can fix and improve upon several ME currently has, especially its ending
Yeah, it's possible I didn't read your post, sorry for that. too many posts to answer for...
Why not bring reaper force to Tuchanka or Rannoch? The reapers could work very fast. Why not bring more and be done with it?
You are free to make any explanation or speculation you want. Just be sure I'll try and dismiss it
#732
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:36
#733
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:38
HagarIshay wrote...
OrginaVendor wrote...
As I said(didnt read that post, i think), They probably never got the chance(the destroyers shepard faced were all pretty much dead already) and didn't bother putting extra effort into taking down shepard(like sending in a reaper fleet to Tuchanka or Rannoch immediately). As for Thessia, i don't think the reapers took notice, honestly.
I realise this is me trying to find an explanation that supports my viewpoint but it is at least somewhat reasonable, yes? Even if viewed as a plothole, IT is one of the better theories that can fix and improve upon several ME currently has, especially its ending
Yeah, it's possible I didn't read your post, sorry for that. too many posts to answer for...
Why not bring reaper force to Tuchanka or Rannoch? The reapers could work very fast. Why not bring more and be done with it?
You are free to make any explanation or speculation you want. Just be sure I'll try and dismiss it.
its evident the reapers cannot work that fast. otherwise the galaxy would be cleansed in a matter of weeks, not centuries (according to liara)
#734
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:38
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
Wait, when do the dreams occur again?
It's been a while since I played ME3.
#735
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:42
llbountyhunter wrote...
well, the dreams DO have those reaper noises, and the last dream showed shepard dying with the kid?
I dont its very common for that to happen in a normal-uninfluenced dream. also in one dream shepard wasnt even in his bed! he was sitting down, looking at a datapad!
Like I said, it's a dream. I dreamed once I was a hamster that got killed by a truck. I don't think it meant that I'm a hamster. Or that I will be killed by a truck.
Shepard was tired. Didn't s/he just opened her eyes, like s/he woke up while sleeping for a second? And it could be that Shepard thought about a dream s/he had.
#736
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:44
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.
Shepard feared the reapers. Shepard can say how much s/he was afraid a few times in the game. Is it really THAT surprising s/he dreamed about the reapers?
EDIT: Wait, facing the reapers?!?? That never happened. Didn't you mean the noises?
Modifié par HagarIshay, 16 juin 2012 - 05:45 .
#737
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:46
OrginaVendor wrote...
HagarIsHay you ignored me twice lol. Nvm bb all
No, no! Don't go!!! If you see this post, I'm sorry. I didn't see your previous ones.
#738
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:48
The first one happens after the palven moon mission.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
Wait, when do the dreams occur again?
It's been a while since I played ME3.
the second one happens after the last mission on tuchanka.
the third happens after the last mission on rennoch.
The last one happens after sactuarty/before the cerberus base.
#739
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:48
#740
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:49
HagarIshay wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
well, the dreams DO have those reaper noises, and the last dream showed shepard dying with the kid?
I dont its very common for that to happen in a normal-uninfluenced dream. also in one dream shepard wasnt even in his bed! he was sitting down, looking at a datapad!
Like I said, it's a dream. I dreamed once I was a hamster that got killed by a truck. I don't think it meant that I'm a hamster. Or that I will be killed by a truck.
Shepard was tired. Didn't s/he just opened her eyes, like s/he woke up while sleeping for a second? And it could be that Shepard thought about a dream s/he had.
Yeah, but if reapers were real and in your town and sending waves to your limbic system, maybe you would have different dreams or they would mean something
#741
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:51
HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.
Shepard feared the reapers. Shepard can say how much s/he was afraid a few times in the game. Is it really THAT surprising s/he dreamed about the reapers?
EDIT: Wait, facing the reapers?!?? That never happened. Didn't you mean the noises?
Well you did face a reaper directly in Tuchanka, hell you even defeated one in Rannoch and talked to him. Or maybe you didn't?
#742
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:52
The first one happens after the palven moon mission.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.
Shepard feared the reapers. Shepard can say how much s/he was afraid a few times in the game. Is it really THAT surprising s/he dreamed about the reapers?
EDIT: Wait, facing the reapers?!?? That never happened. Didn't you mean the noises?
the second one happens after the last mission on tuchanka.
the third happens after the last mission on rennoch.
The last one happens after sactuarty/before the cerberus base.
Added, he's facing beings that can manipulate the libic system by just beingThe libic system is were dreams come from. Saying they are just dreams is ignoring the fact that the reaper if given the chance will always try to indoctriante Shepard. If they were trying to in ME2 and they have Shepard right next to a reaper or reaper forces who can indoctriante, why would they try to indoctriante Shepard then.
#743
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:53
llbountyhunter wrote...
its evident the reapers cannot work that fast. otherwise the galaxy would be cleansed in a matter of weeks, not centuries (according to liara)
Still, the reapers can still bring more reapers. The reapers landed on Rannoch and Tuchanka. Did they honetly didn't see Shepard there and brought more reapers there?
And on Earth at the start. No reaper seemed really intreseted in Shepard. They surely knew s/he was there. Why not try and capture him/her?
And (not 100% sure) weren't the harvested let the reapers know who they were fighting with? If Shepard did Thessia, and the harvested tracked him/her, didn't the reapers know about it?
#744
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:53
And there's a reaper in the back ground on palven's moon.SauliusL wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.
Shepard feared the reapers. Shepard can say how much s/he was afraid a few times in the game. Is it really THAT surprising s/he dreamed about the reapers?
EDIT: Wait, facing the reapers?!?? That never happened. Didn't you mean the noises?
Well you did face a reaper directly in Tuchanka, hell you even defeated one in Rannoch and talked to him. Or maybe you didn't?
#745
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:53
dreman9999 wrote...
The first one happens after the palven moon mission.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
Wait, when do the dreams occur again?
It's been a while since I played ME3.
the second one happens after the last mission on tuchanka.
the third happens after the last mission on rennoch.
The last one happens after sactuarty/before the cerberus base.
I thought there were only 3 dream sequences?
I'm going to try looking this up, shame my googling skills suck.
#746
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:53
Fixed for you.dreman9999 wrote...
The first one happens after meeting with the council.jijeebo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it's by coincidence that the dreams came up after facing the reapers and their focres on the mission. Remeber, the libic system is where your dreams happen. And indoctriantion manipulates the limbic system.HagarIshay wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Who said they stopped. What do you think the dreams are?
Wild guess: The dreams were dreams. What a surprise...
Wait, when do the dreams occur again?
It's been a while since I played ME3.
the second one happens after the last mission on tuchanka.
The last one happens before the cerberus base.
Modifié par Mr.House, 16 juin 2012 - 05:54 .
#747
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:55
HagarIshay wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
its evident the reapers cannot work that fast. otherwise the galaxy would be cleansed in a matter of weeks, not centuries (according to liara)
Still, the reapers can still bring more reapers. The reapers landed on Rannoch and Tuchanka. Did they honetly didn't see Shepard there and brought more reapers there?
And on Earth at the start. No reaper seemed really intreseted in Shepard. They surely knew s/he was there. Why not try and capture him/her?
And (not 100% sure) weren't the harvested let the reapers know who they were fighting with? If Shepard did Thessia, and the harvested tracked him/her, didn't the reapers know about it?
your bringing up evidence that supports IT..... this makes no sense at face value... <_<
#748
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:55
Why would they bring more reapers if there goal is to gain the support of the geth and are using the geth to fight?HagarIshay wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
its evident the reapers cannot work that fast. otherwise the galaxy would be cleansed in a matter of weeks, not centuries (according to liara)
Still, the reapers can still bring more reapers. The reapers landed on Rannoch and Tuchanka. Did they honetly didn't see Shepard there and brought more reapers there?
And on Earth at the start. No reaper seemed really intreseted in Shepard. They surely knew s/he was there. Why not try and capture him/her?
And (not 100% sure) weren't the harvested let the reapers know who they were fighting with? If Shepard did Thessia, and the harvested tracked him/her, didn't the reapers know about it?
#749
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:55
SauliusL wrote...
Yeah, but if reapers were real and in your town and sending waves to your limbic system, maybe you would have different dreams or they would mean something
If the reapers are indoctrinate thorgh the... that system. Then the reapers didn't even need to kidnap. They could just try and indoc Shepard even harder. Insted of months, the indoc will take days. Maybe even hours.
#750
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 05:57
HagarIshay wrote...
llbountyhunter wrote...
its evident the reapers cannot work that fast. otherwise the galaxy would be cleansed in a matter of weeks, not centuries (according to liara)
Still, the reapers can still bring more reapers. The reapers landed on Rannoch and Tuchanka. Did they honetly didn't see Shepard there and brought more reapers there?
And on Earth at the start. No reaper seemed really intreseted in Shepard. They surely knew s/he was there. Why not try and capture him/her?
And (not 100% sure) weren't the harvested let the reapers know who they were fighting with? If Shepard did Thessia, and the harvested tracked him/her, didn't the reapers know about it?
That is writers decisions you are talking about. It's like watching a movie and thinking why he runs straight from a huge ball and not just to the side to avoid it




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