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[Someone With Mass]

Krogan Vanguard. Dumber than all the other Vanguards combined.

[Kem1995]

CoddyXD wrote...

Geist.H wrote...

The MQE is bad ? Ho god... Some people really need to get a clue.

Its the Inf version with one poor skill replacing a top one. There is no reason to play it as MQI does everything it does plus cloak.

The QME is a beast of a character if you can spec it properly. People should stop comparing him to the Infiltrator because all infiltrators are broken (infiltrator is my fav class, but it is kinda broken ). Also, Incineratre is not a poor skill, it's an amazing one.

[Barneyk]

Flubberlub wrote...

For me, its got to be the male Quarian engineer; how about you?

That is my favorite, just played 2 U/U/G games this morning with him.

First one was pretty easy, Cerberus on dagger, had 1 cerb adept, 1 drell adept and 1 male quarian infiltrator in my team.
It all went really smooth, I came first with like 120k and the 2nd person had 110k or something.

Second game was a bit tougher, 1 cerb adept, 1 geth infiltrator with black widow and 1 asari vanguard sniper with black widow, reapers on Giant.
It did not go very well.
We wiped on wave 9 when the 2 ravagers I just killed spawned right ontop of me for some weird reason and I had 2 brutes and a banshee in front of me and got staggered and stuck. I had 3 rockets left but I figured I would need them for wave 10 and I was able to solo pretty well, if it wasn't for the weird spawnthing I would've made it! 

I think it was the 3rd wave that I had to try and finish of by myself, I had 100k and the 2nd had 50k.
And, for me it is a support class!
The area tactical scan is wonderful for the whole team, I love it when there is a male quarian on my team.

So for me, that is the greatest new class! 

EDIT: And people prefer the infiltrator? I really don't. Tech bursts and fireexplosions with incinarate is really good and fits my playstyle a lot better.
I also don't like how tactical scan synergizes with cloak. So for me he is one of the worst infiltrators, if not the worst.
But one of the best engineers, if not the best.

Modifié par Barneyk, 16 juin 2012 - 11:19 .

[Invellous]

I feel that the Phoenix Adept is the least efficient of the bunch. Two out of three of his Powers seem to be designed for a Vanguard. This leaves him with an equally ineffective Power, the signature Power of the Adept class Singularity.

He is followed closely by the Male Quarian Engineer like the Adept he has Power designed with another class in mind, the Infiltrator. While the Arc Grenades are an amazing tool in of themselves they are not always easy to resupply and an Engineer in my opinion should not have to rely on them to create his own Tech Bursts. There is no reason to use him over the Male Quarian Infiltrator in my humble opinion.

[Oodle12]

CoddyXD wrote...

Agreed 100%

Its oooo Arc Grenades cool now I just need Overload....nope...well at least I got a turret....oh wait.....

You just don't know how to play QME. He can outscore GI with the right build and weapon.

[kevchy]

For the MQE...

Spam Arc Grenades, use incinerate = Killstreaks.

Modifié par kevchy, 16 juin 2012 - 11:29 .

[Shadow Shep]

I guess Pheonix adept? Maybe? I wouldn't call him terrible either, but I love the Pheonix Vanguard. I've played him effectively on Gold.

[BeardyMcGoo]

Barneyk wrote...
EDIT: And people prefer the infiltrator? I really don't. Tech bursts and fireexplosions with incinarate is really good and fits my playstyle a lot better.
I also don't like how tactical scan synergizes with cloak.

Exactly.
Unless you take bonus power, it's tac scan...wait...cloak and shoot.
Plus, incinerate works better with arc grenades.  Not only can you get the ridiculous kill streaks from fire explosions, you can set off tech bursts with incinerate after hitting them with a grenade.

[Reaper_prime]

The lash guy with the singularity.

Singularity sucks in general.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

All the "new" classes are awesome, vorcha are probably the least useful. Flamers not all that great unless you stack up multiple power amplifiers. But if you mean any DLC..

Batarian soldier... I don't get ballistic blades, and I don't get blade armor. I see no reason to let an enemy ever get close enough for melee or blades. Perhaps just for reapers only.. but then its only for husk and brutes... Now if banshees took melee damage for assasinations, i'd use it for suicide bombing in last resort situations. But overall I find it dumb

[sigma_draconis]

CoddyXD wrote...

Geist.H wrote...

The MQE is bad ? Ho god... Some people really need to get a clue.

Its the Inf version with one poor skill replacing a top one. There is no reason to play it as MQI does everything it does plus cloak.

It feels like I'm repeating this for the 100th time but I'll do it anyways. Stop looking at Incinerate vs Cloak as stand alone skills. The key to the MQE is using his Incinerate to cause Tech Bursts after setting an enemy up with his Arc Grenades. If you're not getting Bursts, remember to take rank 5 Electrical damage. Because of this, Incinerate has much better synergy with his grenades than Cloak, and makes him better at crowd control.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
All the "new" classes are awesome, vorcha are probably the least useful. Flamers not all that great unless you stack up multiple power amplifiers.

Try using it with the Reegar, and do the Flamer canceling technique which will pretty much give you double flamethrowers.

Modifié par sigma_draconis, 16 juin 2012 - 12:17 .

[Docwagon1776]

I thought the MQE was going to suck when I first unlocked him, I'll be honest. "No turret/decoy? All the other engineers bring a buddy, this guy is solo? WTF?" I said. Then I played a few games with hi and realized his buddy is Timmy TechBurst and he brings him out all the friggin' time. The MQE is fantastic crowd control and while the score board might not reflect it your ability to debuff big enemies helps the team tons. No, the MQE is one of my favorites.

The Phoenix adept, though. I find I can't use it very effectively and neither can most people I see using it. Plus lash is annoying. Nothing like my Batarian Soldier staggering a phantom and going in for the heavy melee kill only to see it whip across the screen, the PA loses track of where it lands, and then you see him insta-killed. Derp.

Batarian Sentinel for previous DLC. I still play with him sometimes, but the web should be better. Even with the range buff, shockwave hardly seems worth it. Without the ballistic blades to stagger, heavy melee is a lot more risky. The Batarian Soldier is better in every way.

[xCreamyy]

CoddyXD wrote...

Geist.H wrote...

The MQE is bad ? Ho god... Some people really need to get a clue.

Its the Inf version with one poor skill replacing a top one. There is no reason to play it as MQI does everything it does plus cloak.

Tech bursts would like a word with you. Only class I've ever played that can consistently hit 3 killstreaks within the first 3 waves.


OT: Batarian Sentinel and Phoenix Adept. 

[Yubz]

All of them.

[Dream-Maker]

The Vorcha don't bring much to the table IMO their main merit is survivability which highly depends on you getting kills often enough. The classes go contrary to the idea of team work to me. What's the point on leaving kills to the vorcha on purpose while he doesn't have more destructive power than many classes ?

The sentinel is obviously better than the soldier because he has grenades and grenades are boss particularly since the grenade gear is here. They are not bad classes per say but definitely the worst in this DLC IMO. The phoenix classes seemed very awkward to me at first, but they are really destructive and contribute a lot in any biotic team. They are among the hardest classes to play as but very rewarding and useful.

[Landline]

I'm seeing a lot of people saying Phoenix adept, but it quickly became my favorite class and the class I'm best at.

[Barneyk]

BeardyMcGoo wrote...

Exactly.
Unless you take bonus power, it's tac scan...wait...cloak and shoot.
Plus, incinerate works better with arc grenades.  Not only can you get the ridiculous kill streaks from fire explosions, you can set off tech bursts with incinerate after hitting them with a grenade.

Yeah, I use tac scan as more of a support power since it has very low cooldown but it has a veeeery long animation.
On an infiltrator, cryo blast, energy drain, sabotage and proximity mine are all better powers to use with your cloak-cycling as I see it.

The one instence where the MQI is a better choice then any of the other infiltrators is if you have grenade capacity at high enough rank to use them instead of tac scan with your cloak-cycling and use tac scan while stil being in cover or chaning positions or something. But I haven't tried that since I dont have any grenade capacity upgrades.

That is with my playstyle, if you like it or find it effective another way, I am not saying it can't be done I am just saying that I have not found a way.

And anyone claming that the QME is a poor mans QMI is just plain wrong, QME is a very strong character.

[xassantex]

I love the MQE, except when i end up with other grenade users on Gold... : oh i need a grenade.. nope, crate is empty ... let's run to the next nearest one.. nope it's empty "..

[fallingseraph]

sclera wrote...

Both of the Cerberus characters are just dumb.

See what happens when people don't want Protheans!?

[Nightmare137]

Edalborez wrote...

You're crazy. He's one of the best. Effortless Tech Burst killstreaks.

If we're including Resurgence, Batarian Sentinel. If not, Phoenix Adept.

Agreed

[Walsh1980]

Really I've come to understand that once you have the best weapons, no class is truly god awful as you could play without any powers and succeed. But of the ones I've unlocked, Phoenix Vanguard is my least favorite. He's got a lot of flash, but he dies too quick. . Opposite of my favorite, the Batarian soldier, who's just a beast in close quarters, at a distance, everywhere.

[AdrianC25]

Reaper_prime wrote...

The lash guy with the singularity.

Singularity sucks in general.

you sir, are doing it wrong. the PA is a boss and singularity is easily the most misunderstood ability in the game. people are way to into easy and obvious, its a new class that plays very very differently.

[palmof40sorrows]

Whoever says Kroguard is outta their minds. Least favorite is different than worst, and you can't accurately say Kroguard is "worst," especially if your metric is viability on Gold.

OT,I'd go with Phoenix Adept, but I'd wager that has more to do with being bad at playing an adept other than Asari.

[Sousabird]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Phoenix Adept followed by the Vanguard. Slam needs invincibility frames like Nova to be really useful and Singularity is just awful compared to Biotic Charge.

I used a respecc card so instead of worrying about singularity I could max all my abilities

[Reaper_prime]

AdrianC25 wrote...

Reaper_prime wrote...

The lash guy with the singularity.

Singularity sucks in general.

you sir, are doing it wrong. the PA is a boss and singularity is easily the most misunderstood ability in the game. people are way to into easy and obvious, its a new class that plays very very differently.

Enlighten me about singularity in silver and in gold difficulty.