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[Szuli]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Unless they give the Thane fan base an option to Save him, I won't buy s*** from them. As the person who couldn't even finish the game, I sure in the hell ain't going to buy anything else. I spent enough. When I say I spent enough, I mean just that. $450 and that's not including in buying the game. That is just the amount I had to spend to run a campaign against their idiot decision to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat. There should have been an option to save him or not. He was LI, a LI that was intended for women. I didn't pay $80 to have Liara shoved down my throat.

I agree. I was going to have a playthrough with my Thane romance (after the Garrus one) but what's the point. The really mean thing is that they encouraged the movement to save him and then this is what they give the fans. This is as much a betrayal as all those other promises that turned out to be false, if not worse. I also agree about the point about how a LI intended for women was handled. And then there's Jacob, also a LI for women...

Edit: Unfortunately I can't imagine that they will do anything about this. Like you said, they shoved one opinion down on everybody's throat and that's it.

Modifié par Szuli, 18 juin 2012 - 03:01 .

[Kia Purity]

I don't remember if I actually commented on this thread or not.

But I definitely would NOT buy anything from Bioware ever again. I still can't even bring myself to play ME3. Urrrgh.

[MattFini]

MASS EFFECT 3 is completely dead to me if the botch the EC.

No more DLC (free or otherwise) and the game gets tossed on my shelf - end of story.

Not saying I'm done with BioWare as a result, but I will be very careful when purchasing another game from them. No more pre-orders - instead I'll see what the consensus is here on the BSN before purchasing.

I'm not making threats or anything. Just saying that the ME3 fiasco has burnt me out on the game and, if the extended cut is just a miserable face-saving attempt for the company (as opposed to a legitimate attempt to address the criticisms of the lame finale), then I'll just sit out the rest of the game and hope they get their act together.

[Asuukuru]

I cant really say if I will ever buy another bioware game again. I dont actually have any interest in the EC, they have made it painfully clear that it doesn't change anything about the endings. It just give more video sequences of what happens after Shepard's decision. So, the EC has no value to me what so ever. While i cant say whether I will buy a bioware release again or not, I can say I will not buy a Bioware game on release day again. I will wait for atleast a month to measure gamer feedback on the game, and then decide whether its worth buying or not. If the game is attached to Origin and requires origin, I wount even bother looking at gamer reviews. I wount waste my time with the release.

[cuzsal]

if it is bad

bye Bioware ty for the years and years of fun, but it will be time to find that fun else were

[mnomaha]

Szuli wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Unless they give the Thane fan base an option to Save him, I won't buy s*** from them. As the person who couldn't even finish the game, I sure in the hell ain't going to buy anything else. I spent enough. When I say I spent enough, I mean just that. $450 and that's not including in buying the game. That is just the amount I had to spend to run a campaign against their idiot decision to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat. There should have been an option to save him or not. He was LI, a LI that was intended for women. I didn't pay $80 to have Liara shoved down my throat.

I agree. I was going to have a playthrough with my Thane romance (after the Garrus one) but what's the point. The really mean thing is that they encouraged the movement to save him and then this is what they give the fans. This is as much a betrayal as all those other promises that turned out to be false, if not worse. I also agree about the point about how a LI intended for women was handled. And then there's Jacob, also a LI for women...

Edit: Unfortunately I can't imagine that they will do anything about this. Like you said, they shoved one opinion down on everybody's throat and that's it.

No, but we can still hope.  I honestly think they are under the delustion that if they "fix" the end everyone will be happily farting rainbows. Then again, they thought the ending was "bittersweet". *snort* Leave that to the chocolate companies bw because you obviously don't get it.

[darkstarxt]

When I see the stupid Tricolor Normandy crash and Shepard-Breathe-Cliffhanger again in the EC I won't buy anything from Bioware anymore. And I think that's very likely to happen.

[Legion4000]

darkstarxt wrote...

When I see the stupid Tricolor Normandy crash and Shepard-Breathe-Cliffhanger again in the EC I won't buy anything from Bioware anymore. And I think that's very likely to happen.

^this

[AmyMac]

I didn't buy "From Ashes," because $10 for an hour and a half of gameplay is a complete ripoff. If the EC is phenomenal, and I mean truly phenomenal, I might consider it.
Mass Effect (1) is and will probably always be my favorite game. I'll replay it (and ME2) again, and again. I didn't play or buy DA2, and have no intention of buying/playing DA3. As far as "swords and dragons"/fantasy RPG's go, none hold a candle to The Elder Scrolls series.
And if the EC sucks, I can guarantee I won't be buying anymore EAWare games (maybe buy them used).

[Szuli]

mnomaha wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Unless they give the Thane fan base an option to Save him, I won't buy s*** from them. As the person who couldn't even finish the game, I sure in the hell ain't going to buy anything else. I spent enough. When I say I spent enough, I mean just that. $450 and that's not including in buying the game. That is just the amount I had to spend to run a campaign against their idiot decision to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat. There should have been an option to save him or not. He was LI, a LI that was intended for women. I didn't pay $80 to have Liara shoved down my throat.

I agree. I was going to have a playthrough with my Thane romance (after the Garrus one) but what's the point. The really mean thing is that they encouraged the movement to save him and then this is what they give the fans. This is as much a betrayal as all those other promises that turned out to be false, if not worse. I also agree about the point about how a LI intended for women was handled. And then there's Jacob, also a LI for women...

Edit: Unfortunately I can't imagine that they will do anything about this. Like you said, they shoved one opinion down on everybody's throat and that's it.

No, but we can still hope.  I honestly think they are under the delustion that if they "fix" the end everyone will be happily farting rainbows. Then again, they thought the ending was "bittersweet". *snort* Leave that to the chocolate companies bw because you obviously don't get it.

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of, too. I think they probably think that if they just explain their brilliant ideas to us simpletons then everything will be all right and everybody will be happy. I think this is why it doesn't help when some people say that all they want is clarification. I'm also not sure that I'd want their kind of closure if it means that everybody I loved is dead or screwed.

[warlock22]

mnomaha wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Unless they give the Thane fan base an option to Save him, I won't buy s*** from them. As the person who couldn't even finish the game, I sure in the hell ain't going to buy anything else. I spent enough. When I say I spent enough, I mean just that. $450 and that's not including in buying the game. That is just the amount I had to spend to run a campaign against their idiot decision to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat. There should have been an option to save him or not. He was LI, a LI that was intended for women. I didn't pay $80 to have Liara shoved down my throat.

I agree. I was going to have a playthrough with my Thane romance (after the Garrus one) but what's the point. The really mean thing is that they encouraged the movement to save him and then this is what they give the fans. This is as much a betrayal as all those other promises that turned out to be false, if not worse. I also agree about the point about how a LI intended for women was handled. And then there's Jacob, also a LI for women...

Edit: Unfortunately I can't imagine that they will do anything about this. Like you said, they shoved one opinion down on everybody's throat and that's it.

No, but we can still hope.  I honestly think they are under the delustion that if they "fix" the end everyone will be happily farting rainbows. Then again, they thought the ending was "bittersweet". *snort* Leave that to the chocolate companies bw because you obviously don't get it.

Agreed, I dont know why they wanted to make the ending bittersweet. The fact that ME is coming to an end is bittersweet enough. Give us the happy ending that we want, it will still be bittersweet due to it coming to an end.

[DazenCobalt17]

Even if EC was to go well beyond my expectations(it won't) I'm not buying anything else cause ME is the only thing I'm interested in from bioware. I was considering dragon age but considering how people are talking about 2, I'll pass

[Whimper]

LadyWench wrote...

Whimper wrote...

It will not affect my decision in the slightest. If a film director makes a disappointing movie, that doesn't mean I will avoid all his future movies, and it certainly doesn't make me decide to vocally boycott them!

So, Whimper, what's your favorite M. Night Shyamalan movie?

Definitely Unbreakable.

[Rick Lewis]

I'm not really expecting that much from the EC and my expectations are fairly low as it is. But if it is just more starchild garbage then I can safely say that I'm done with bioware.

[Creston918]

The large majority of people will just buy the next game and/or DLC. That's just how it goes, and it's why EA has been mostly ignoring this whole debacle. They know fully well that while a person may hold a grudge, people in general are fickle and will just forget about the whole thing.

That's also why everything has been quiet from their end. The less they talk about it, the fewer people stay upset over it.

That said, if the EC sucks (and quite frankly, with Space Magic Kid remaining the sole ending, I don't see how it CAN'T suck), I'm done with Bioware.

EA won't give a damn, as I'm just one customer. But I was one of those customers who pre-ordered collectors' editions of Bio's games, and I've been buying them unseen since Baldur's Gate. No more. After DA2 and now ME3, the Bioware I knew is either already dead or very close to dying.

The whole Bioware name doesn't even mean anything anymore anyway. It's just being used by EA to fit whatever they want.

"Hey, we have a studio making a new Command & Conquer game. Let's call it Bioware, so we can drag a few more ounces of blood out of the goodwill attached to that name before it completely withers away."

Soon the list will read: Bullfrog, Origin, Looking Glass, Westwood... Bioware.

Modifié par Creston918, 19 juin 2012 - 06:00 .

[Robhuzz]

Whimper wrote...

It will not affect my decision in the slightest. If a film director makes a disappointing movie, that doesn't mean I will avoid all his future movies, and it certainly doesn't make me decide to vocally boycott them!

But if that film director is held on a leash by an evil corporation that forces him to rush his work time and time again for the sole purpose of making as much money as possible?

[daecath]

None. Not a chance. There are quite a few franchises that I'm passionate about, but literally none that I've been this passionate about. The first Mass Effect game was a perfect game in my opinion. Yes, there were some flaws, but it was everything I ever could have possibly wanted from a game. #2 had some issues, but still was far and away above any other game I've played, except #1.

To be honest, for a while there, I absolutely hated BioWare for what they did to ME3. The rage is gone now, and I'm just left feeling hollow about the whole thing. If EC is good, then fine, I'll give them a second chance, though never again put blind faith in them the way I did. No pre-orders, and I wait to see what real people think about it. If it sucks (and from everything that they've said about it, I have no doubt it will), then bye bye Bi. There are some things I can forgive. Needlessly destroying my absolute favorite franchise, then reacting the way they did, are two major strikes. They have one left.

[VeryHappySloth]

If EC drops starchild (which they said they won't), I'll probably buy the future SP DLC and games. If not...well, because of the ending, the EC, the treatment that Bioware's PR gave us, I think I'll use this money on future titles from Bethesda and Naughty Dog.

But I doubt I would make a difference, I'm just part of the vocal minority, right Bioware? You guys can try making ME more and more like Halo or CoD, get a bunch of 12 year olds to buy your product.

Modifié par VeryHappySloth, 19 juin 2012 - 08:34 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I won't be buying any DLC regardless of how the EC turns out because I don't use an internet connection with my consoles.

Future BioWare games, I would definitely buy. Never said I wouldn't. ME3's ending is the first major thing I've had a problem with one of their games, and I still enjoy playing them more than most others. I wouldn't want to miss out on a game that I like just because I hate the very last part. I can shut the game off before a bad ending, and hope for the next to be better. That's one of the reasons why I post my feedback here.

[daecath]

Whimper wrote...

It will not affect my decision in the slightest. If a film director makes a disappointing movie, that doesn't mean I will avoid all his future movies, and it certainly doesn't make me decide to vocally boycott them!

I agree, if a director screws up a movie, that's not a reason to deny them a second chance.

But, when a director (or actor/producer) screws up one of your favorite franchises (like Mission Impossible) by doing something so absolutely assinine and moronic (like turning the hero of the franchise into the main bad guy for no reason), then I absolutely will boycott that person (and I have not seen a single Tom Cruise movie since the first Mission Impossible came out).

I liked the Mission Impossible series. Mass Effect is my all time favorite franchise, by far, ever. I've never cared about a franchise the way that I do about ME, and I was a Treker and a huge Star Wars fan. So if the EC fails to deliver, I'm gone.

I figured it out, and in the last 12 months alone, I have spent over $700 on BioWare and BioWare licensed products. If EC sucks, they might get a few more dollars out of me if someone produces action figures for the rest of the squad members that are missing that I want: FemShep, Liara, Jack, EDI, Joker, and Anderson. But no more games, and no more merchandise after that. The only way that I would ever consider coming back is if they made a game that was better than ME1, or even 2, and considering what we've been getting from them lately, that's not likely.

Modifié par daecath, 19 juin 2012 - 08:46 .

[milena87]

From Bioware in general? Still likely, as I'm interested in DA3 and I'll probably get it (unless it'll feature multiplayer...).

From the ME team (or any other team guided by Hudson and/or Walters)? Not very likely.

[en2ym3]

If the EC is bad, I -may- still buy future products. Perhaps it helps that I don't hold -too- high of expectations for it, other than that it should be better than the current ending.

-If- the ending is only poor because of some weird thing with Hudson and/or Walters, than it is hopefully a painfully bad moment in Bioware's history, and not some sort of dooming sign of the future. Though I feel like the game has simplified, in a bad way (but I'm one of the fans that wasn't bothered by the original inventory, and went out of my way to get as much dialogue/story as I could, and liked the Mako, so I'm probably biased). If it's not, then I guess it's a dooming sign of the future.
I'll wait until (more trustworthy) reviews/opinions come out for the product and, if it seems I'd like it (suggesting the person probably likes Bioware for the same reasons I do), then I'll buy it. If it weren't Mass Effect, I probably wouldn't have unquestioningly bought the sequels either, but I haven't been a huge Bioware fan for long enough that there would be a chance for me to drop my general attitude toward buying games, either.

If Bioware was able to make another Mass Effect or Dragon Age: Origins, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'd consider it more of a gift than a product, even if I spent an extra $30.

[Haargel]

I think before blindly purchasing any game from now on, I will first try them out for an hour or so, if it's good, buy it.

I have no regret that I bought ME3 though.

The biggest waste of money was COD4: MW, I'm not interested in the MP, I've been doing that for a long time in the past, so I only buy those game for the SP part.

Nuff said I felt robbed that I payed 50€ for 4 hours of Singleplayer campaign.

Never again.

Modifié par Haargel, 19 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[SackofCat]

I was going to explain myself in detail but it was getting long so I'll summarize.

After ME1 and 2 I gave Bioware the benefit of the doubt. After accumulating a long list of grievances, I have realized this was mistake. I rarely make the same mistake twice.

It may be irrational but because my expectations were pretty high, and the lengths I went to inspire high expectations in others, I feel a little burned. It would take more for Bioware to win my confidence, my loyalty, and my respect (which they had) than it would for an unknown company to do the same..

I will not forget what they had accomplished in the past, but neither will I forget what they have become. Whenever I think of Bioware, I will also think of that long list of grievances. It seems like they are now defined by them.

Re:DA3+
After DA2, ME3, and ME:Deception, if I get it, it will be for $25 dollars or less. If their current DLC anti-used games policies continue, I won't get it at all.

I also have a tendency to understate things.

[digby69]

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