298 réponses à ce sujet

[stuka1000]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Not trying to start a fight here, but i think a large majority of you would. Large enough to give Bioware the idea that no matter how bad they screw us, you'll keep giving them money. Because I remember 3 months ago, almost everybody was talking about holding the line/wallet, and how Bioware will never see another penny from them again.

Now not so much. Seems like a lot of you have forgiven Bioware. If i'm wrong, feel free to tell me how wrong i am, but i've seen this kind of thing before. Consumers complain and complain, and yet they keep buying the companies products. I do know of some specific people on here, that will probably stick to their guns, but i'm not sure about the rest of you.

Not forgiven, just quietly waiting for the EC.  If it sucks then no, I will most certainly not part with anymore money for DLC's. 

DLC started out as a nice idea to add new content; it would increase the longevity and replayability of games and not cost the earth to the gamer while providing a revenue stream for the company.  Now however, as with so many good ideas it has been corrupted by the greedy corporations to the point where we now get day one DLC and content that is ready to go left out of the released product so that they can sell it later.

[brandon3990]

I'm going to buy any and all dlc. I loved every minute of the game up until Shepard gets lifted up on the elevator to talk to the catalyst. I'm looking forward to any singlplayer dlc.

[Veloric Wu]

If the ending fails....World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria here I come

If the ending blows.....wait that's even possible?

[TaradosGon]

Same company, different teams. 20th Century Fox turned out the awful Alien vs. Predator films. Doesn't mean I won't ever watch another 20th Century Fox film, I just won't watch another AvP film.

I was disappointed with how TOR turned out. I would have MUCH rather have had a proper KOTOR 3. That didn't stop me from buying ME2 and ME3 recently, I just won't continue to give Bioware money for TOR. ME3's ending was disappointing, but I'm not boycotting Bioware over it.

If the EC ruins ME3 beyond repair, then I simply won't spend any more money on ME3 content. It wouldn't stop me from buying Jade Empire 2 (if ever made) or any future Bioware franchise that looks good/gets good reviews. I'm not so spiteful that I'm going to deny myself the enjoyment of a good game and punish Bioware for something they did right, just because they previously did something wrong.

Modifié par TaradosGon, 19 juin 2012 - 01:02 .

[loungeshep]

Pretty likely honestly. I'm not ready to put Mass Effect away.

[DarxydeBluus]

I may or may not buy future BioWare games but I will never preorder their games again (and I ALWAYS preordered BW games). If the EC fails, I will not buy any additional ME content.

[sangy]

The EC is based on Mass Effect 1-3. That's pretty much all I'm concerned with. I don't label ME as Bioware completely. If the EC doesn't bring the ending to a better place, I won't be purchasing any DLC for ME3.

As for other Bioware games such as Dragon Age, that's different. I still love DA and will prepurchase and grab decent DLC if it's offered.

ME3 has great gameplay, but for "me" the ending blew. I'm anxious to see this EC.

[Talogrungi]

I'm not one of those people who would intentionally deny myself access to good games on principle.
I'm also not one of those people who will lie on forums and say that I am.

But I'm in no hurry. Games are plentiful, and waiting for prices to drop is not a hardship. I've bought dozens of games on Steam sale that I wouldn't have shelled out full price for, and that's been an overwhelmingly positive experience for me.

It's very rare that I pre-order and pay full price for a game. I've got to be hugely hyped for it, and it's frequently a let down. If the next Bioware title (DA3?) looks good, then I'll buy it .. but I won't pay full price for it on release date.

Midgame/prequel ME3 DLC is pretty much out of the question regardless of the EC.

[Hyperion II]

Bioware? Who are they?

Modifié par Hyperion II, 19 juin 2012 - 03:28 .

[saber00005]

I have mixed feeling about what will happened. ME3 is my favorite game of all times, but the ending really hurt. I know it's a game, but they created this thing that you, yourself personalized everything, only to find out that it all ends badly. Renagade and Paragon SHOULD be 100% different. Depending on your readiness points, should give you addicional cut scens of awesome-ness. That would have played things a lot better. I'd say for the 3 choices, that should be Renagade's ending, and Paragon ending something different or something so much more.

If the EC is a flop, i will be pretty upset, and would honestly make me not wanting to buy another game like this. Why would you buy a game made from a company that has been known to create a sad ending out of an amazing series?

It is what it is, and forever...

[Apocaleepse360]

Even if EC turns out to be good, I'll still be iffy about purchasing future products. I'll likely look at customer reviews first before buying.

[mulder1199]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Even if EC turns out to be good, I'll still be iffy about purchasing future products. I'll likely look at customer reviews first before buying.

this is their chance to keep my dollars as a consumer, there are too many choices for me to spend my dollars on.....i'll absolutely NEVER preorder from BW again....

[Headcount]

Even if the EC fixes everything and convinces everyone to give BW another chance, nothing will change unless EA backs off and gives more development time to BW. 2 years is not enough time to make a good RPG.

[Ensiform]

Headcount wrote...


Even if the EC fixes everything and convinces everyone to give BW another chance, nothing will change unless EA backs off and gives more development time to BW. 2 years is not enough time to make a good RPG.

And it's beyond too late to go back and magically "fix" it.  I don't get why people can honestly outcry over something that cannot and will not change at this stage.  It's a released product and would cost millions of dollars to go back and fix for a few whiney fans that refuse to take the ending they were given.

[ananna21]

I will likely wait rather than rush for pre order.

[ScotGaymer]

For myself if the EC sucks as hard as I am dreading then I won't be buying any DLC for ME3 at all.

I said the same thing about DA2 - no expansion, no DLC purchase from me. I've stuck to it.

No good EC, no DLC purchase from me.

I will most likely buy Dragon Age 3, but it won't be a preorder. I won't be playing for the collectors edition, and I will most likely wait a month for some sales to get going on it.
Bioware titles will no longer be a no-brainer auto pre-order buy for me. And again I will probably be staying away from DLC.

I play games to be involved in the storyline and universe, and this is especially true of Bioware games. I can forgive poor gameplay if the game has an awesome story *cough*MassEffect1*cough*. I can not forgive a poor story.

Just my opinion tho.

[Talogrungi]

Ensiform wrote...

And it's beyond too late to go back and magically "fix" it.  I don't get why people can honestly outcry over something that cannot and will not change at this stage.  It's a released product and would cost millions of dollars to go back and fix for a few whiney fans that refuse to take the ending they were given.

Funny, I can't understand why people don't complain.

The fanbase is the ultimate in quality assurance tests.

We care enough about the game/developer to want to see it succeed, and we're willing to contribute our time and energy to providing constructive feedback. We want Bioware/EA to learn from this situation and to not make the same mistakes in the future. We want them to make good games.

And seriously, the "whiner" argument?

If video games are art, then we're not whiners .. we're expressing valid criticisms.
If they're not, then we're still not whiners .. we're customers unhappy with a shoddy product.

Either way; attempting to write off the legitimate complaints of a large amount of people by slapping a condescending label on them and putting your nose up in the air? .. that's beyond ignorance, it's pure trolling.

Modifié par Talogrungi, 19 juin 2012 - 08:20 .

[Deltateam Elcor]

Zero, i will be permanently lost to them.

[Apocaleepse360]

Ensiform wrote...

Headcount wrote...


Even if the EC fixes everything and convinces everyone to give BW another chance, nothing will change unless EA backs off and gives more development time to BW. 2 years is not enough time to make a good RPG.

And it's beyond too late to go back and magically "fix" it.  I don't get why people can honestly outcry over something that cannot and will not change at this stage.  It's a released product and would cost millions of dollars to go back and fix for a few whiney fans that refuse to take the ending they were given.

"A few"? It must be your first day here...

[Szuli]

Talogrungi wrote...

Ensiform wrote...

And it's beyond too late to go back and magically "fix" it.  I don't get why people can honestly outcry over something that cannot and will not change at this stage.  It's a released product and would cost millions of dollars to go back and fix for a few whiney fans that refuse to take the ending they were given.

Funny, I can't understand why people don't complain.

The fanbase is the ultimate in quality assurance tests.

We care enough about the game/developer to want to see it succeed, and we're willing to contribute our time and energy to providing constructive feedback. We want Bioware/EA to learn from this situation and to not make the same mistakes in the future. We want them to make good games.

And seriously, the "whiner" argument?

If video games are art, then we're not whiners .. we're expressing valid criticisms.
If they're not, then we're still not whiners .. we're customers unhappy with a shoddy product.

Either way; attempting to write off the legitimate complaints of a large amount of people by slapping a condescending label on them and putting your nose up in the air? .. that's beyond ignorance, it's pure trolling.

  I agree. 

[dorktainian]

Bioware forgot that the customer is always right......

[Nefla]

I'm definitely not pre-ordering a BioWare game ever again that's for sure. I'm going to wait until any new game has been thouroughly reviewed by fans (not "professional" game reviewers) and watch parts of it on youtube before I decide if I want to buy it or not. I'm going to be very wary in the future. Also I'm never buying a non-BW EA game ever again.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Szuli wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

Ensiform wrote...

And it's beyond too late to go back and magically "fix" it.  I don't get why people can honestly outcry over something that cannot and will not change at this stage.  It's a released product and would cost millions of dollars to go back and fix for a few whiney fans that refuse to take the ending they were given.

Funny, I can't understand why people don't complain.

The fanbase is the ultimate in quality assurance tests.

We care enough about the game/developer to want to see it succeed, and we're willing to contribute our time and energy to providing constructive feedback. We want Bioware/EA to learn from this situation and to not make the same mistakes in the future. We want them to make good games.

And seriously, the "whiner" argument?

If video games are art, then we're not whiners .. we're expressing valid criticisms.
If they're not, then we're still not whiners .. we're customers unhappy with a shoddy product.

Either way; attempting to write off the legitimate complaints of a large amount of people by slapping a condescending label on them and putting your nose up in the air? .. that's beyond ignorance, it's pure trolling.

  I agree. 

Well said and very true, I also agree.

[Moirai]

Without any intelligent revision of the ending, I have no interest whatsoever in giving Bioware any more money.

To be honest, that's no big deal for me any more. There's plenty of other developers producing games out there.