Modifié par CHALET, 18 juin 2012 - 01:54 .
ThinkIntegral wrote...
frylock23 wrote...
ThinkIntegral wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
ThinkIntegral wrote...
frylock23 wrote...
Maybe he says you "can" because if you're willing to kill the Reapers then you would clearly be willing to utterly wipe out any other synthetic race, too? Thus, if you "can" kill the Reapers, then you "can" kill the Geth? It's a stretch ...
What in the hell are you getting at?
You don't have to kill the Geth if you don't want to.
INTERPRETATIONS!
You have an....interesting way of interpreting that statement about the Destroy option
What was I getting at? *sigh*
Something like what your least favorite classroom teacher was getting at when every time you asked if you could go to the bathroom she would reply, "I don't know. Can you go to the bathroom?"
Does that help?
Yes it does. I was asking to verify your line of thinking and interpretation of that statement.
o Ventus wrote...
jla0644 wrote...
How can you possibly choose any of the options if you think it is lying to you? If you don't trust it, then there is nothing for Shepard to do and the game is over right there. But as appealing as that sounds, it is unfortunately not an option.
NOBODY IS SAYING THAT THE CATALYST LIES.
Reorte wrote...
We're not given any explanation,
let alone a lengthy one. No hints of it throughout the entire series
when the Reapers themselves have had plenty of opportunity to explain
their motives. There is nothing about the Catalyst that makes me want to
believe it. TIM did far better at that. When I played the game
I assumed it was some desperate last-ditch effort to try to trick me
because there's absolutely nothing to suggest that it wouldn't do that
and plenty of reason to think that it would. The far-fetched explanation
just reinforced that view.
Modifié par jla0644, 18 juin 2012 - 03:06 .
KingZayd wrote...
Fine, I ignore everything the Starchild says, and I see Anderson shooting at a tube. I like Anderson (and know he wants to destroy the reapers), so I do that tooGood thing I apparently have psychic powers.
If the Starchild doesn't give us any reason to believe it's statements about synthetics wrt organics, nor its motives, then it's the Starchild's failure. If the way Bioware wrote him makes him unreliable, then he's unreliable.
What I have is this: The Reapers ARE trying to kill us (the people of the Milky Way) off, as they have killed many before us. Synthetics are not. This self-described controller of the things trying to kill us off tells us that the Reapers aren't the problem, but a solution to the nasty synthetics who would kill all organic life. He just says that, and gives nothing to back it up. Naturally, I decide to destroy the Reapers.
Taboo-XX wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
jla0644 wrote...
How can you possibly choose any of the options if you think it is lying to you? If you don't trust it, then there is nothing for Shepard to do and the game is over right there. But as appealing as that sounds, it is unfortunately not an option.
NOBODY IS SAYING THAT THE CATALYST LIES.
I never called anyone a Facist either but the thought process hasn't improved.
He doesn't lie. Ever. He is irrelevant. That makes the choice YOURS.
frylock23 wrote...
ThinkIntegral wrote...
frylock23 wrote...
ThinkIntegral wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
ThinkIntegral wrote...
frylock23 wrote...
Maybe he says you "can" because if you're willing to kill the Reapers then you would clearly be willing to utterly wipe out any other synthetic race, too? Thus, if you "can" kill the Reapers, then you "can" kill the Geth? It's a stretch ...
What in the hell are you getting at?
You don't have to kill the Geth if you don't want to.
INTERPRETATIONS!
You have an....interesting way of interpreting that statement about the Destroy option
What was I getting at? *sigh*
Something like what your least favorite classroom teacher was getting at when every time you asked if you could go to the bathroom she would reply, "I don't know. Can you go to the bathroom?"
Does that help?
Yes it does. I was asking to verify your line of thinking and interpretation of that statement.
Hence why I said in my first statement that it was a stretch. Anything that you have to dig that deeply to understand isn't going to be found at the ending of this game. ME3 is a mass market product and that level of subtlety is going to fly right past pretty much every person who ever plays the game. There wouldn't be any point to it particularly when you don't find anything else like it anywhere else in the entire trilogy. That's wordplay more suited to poetry.
jla0644 wrote...
KingZayd wrote...
Fine, I ignore everything the Starchild says, and I see Anderson shooting at a tube. I like Anderson (and know he wants to destroy the reapers), so I do that too
If the Starchild doesn't give us any reason to believe it's statements about synthetics wrt organics, nor its motives, then it's the Starchild's failure. If the way Bioware wrote him makes him unreliable, then he's unreliable.
What I have is this: The Reapers ARE trying to kill us (the people of the Milky Way) off, as they have killed many before us. Synthetics are not. This self-described controller of the things trying to kill us off tells us that the Reapers aren't the problem, but a solution to the nasty synthetics who would kill all organic life. He just says that, and gives nothing to back it up. Naturally, I decide to destroy the Reapers.
Ok so the Catalyst can't be trusted. Your random vision of Anderson shooting a pipe can. And apparently the Catalyst's options can be trusted too, even though the Catalyst itself, cannot.
If you just want to decide that the things you don't like are false, and the things you do like are true, then I'm not going to say you can't. If it makes the ending better for you, more power to you. But you'll forgive me if I don't give your reasoning persuasive.
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