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So I'm torn. Kaidan/Cortez


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Frozen83 wrote...

I've read a few fanfics... But I still don't see my Shep with Vega. But, I do see Vega with Liara (?!).
BTW, I've picked Kaidan for my first playthrough, Steve for second. I like both, but I prefer Steve. He's a real character who is interested in MShep, and MShep (my canon MShep) is interested in men and in Steve. Kaidan and MShep's romance is nice, but felt for me as if neither Kaidan nor Shep were aware that they have feeling for eachother. Ugh, totally unbelievable... Maybe if MShep had some "Kaidan, Alenko, I was interested in you from day one, you idiot." line, okay, but MShep seems just as surprised about his feelings as Kaidan is... No, just no. So, my MShep is gay, he finally gets his man, and Kaidan is just his very good, if not best, friend. M.


Best reasoning yet. I was already leaning way more towards Steve, but this totally seals the deal. Haha :)

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xOnYourRadar wrote...

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Cortez's romance sucks, where Kaidan's is one of the best, so..... yeah, go with Kaidan.


How does it suck tho? (without giving away spoilers)


It's not fleshed out at all. Cortez is overall a boring character and there are only a couple brief scenes that even mention being in a romance. The pre and post sex scenes are just as boring as the rest of Steve's dialogue. He does have cool looking eyes though.....

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There is a German saying - Jedem das Seine Image IPB.
In other news. This thread pushed me to write a sequel to colonist/sole survivor Shep's psych development in ME1/2/3 where he's obsessing with Kaidan, but will choose Steve in the end. I think it prompted me to choose Steve for this Shep. I'm now starting Horizon chapter. M.

Modifié par Frozen83, 18 juin 2012 - 07:49 .


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Fidget6 wrote...

xOnYourRadar wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Cortez's romance sucks, where Kaidan's is one of the best, so..... yeah, go with Kaidan.


How does it suck tho? (without giving away spoilers)


It's not fleshed out at all. Cortez is overall a boring character and there are only a couple brief scenes that even mention being in a romance. The pre and post sex scenes are just as boring as the rest of Steve's dialogue. He does have cool looking eyes though.....


I beg to differ. I've found all my conversations with Cortez have been cute and interesting, and his little dialogue scenes on the Normandy are, at the least, amusing to me.  
I also dig his passion for ships.  Every time he talks about the Kodiak my heart melts a little.  I find it sexy to be honest. :wub:

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 18 juin 2012 - 07:57 .


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Frozen83 wrote...

There is a German saying - Jedem das Seine Image IPB.


This. Cortez is the best.
:P

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Frozen83 wrote...

There is a German saying - Jedem das Seine Image IPB.
In other news. This thread pushed me to write a sequel to colonist/sole survivor Shep's psych development in ME1/2/3 where he's obsessing with Kaidan, but will choose Steve in the end. I think it prompted me to choose Steve for this Shep. I'm now starting Horizon chapter. M.


Wowowowow that's pretty much my Shepard's story!!! Hahahaha ^_^

I'd love to read it when you're done!

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 18 juin 2012 - 07:52 .


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You can find Mindoir, Akuze and Retaking Omega in fanfic thread, under "Shepard" (third post by lillitheris)... 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/368/index/11909358
M.

Modifié par Frozen83, 18 juin 2012 - 07:56 .


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STEEEEEEEEVE!!! (sorry, had to do it)

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You sure.

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Jerks!
*beats them to death with Diana's shoes*
Image IPB M.

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Just thought I'd update you all. I just romanced Cortez after turning Kaidan down. #heartbreaker hehe

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Frozen83 wrote...

I've read a few fanfics... But I still don't see my Shep with Vega. But, I do see Vega with Liara (?!).
BTW, I've picked Kaidan for my first playthrough, Steve for second. I like both, but I prefer Steve. He's a real character who is interested in MShep, and MShep (my canon MShep) is interested in men and in Steve. Kaidan and MShep's romance is nice, but felt for me as if neither Kaidan nor Shep were aware that they have feeling for eachother. Ugh, totally unbelievable... Maybe if MShep had some "Kaidan, Alenko, I was interested in you from day one, you idiot." line, okay, but MShep seems just as surprised about his feelings as Kaidan is... No, just no. So, my MShep is gay, he finally gets his man, and Kaidan is just his very good, if not best, friend. M.


I don't think Kaidan ever comes off as being surprised by his feelings for Shepard, though I can see how someone would interpret Shepard as being surprised during the date at the cafe. I however chose to view it as Shepard being  a military figure who cared deeply for Kaidan (his reaction to Kaidan being hurt on Mars was proof enough for me) but ultimately was afraid to be honest with himself about the reality of a romance during this time of galactic upheaval and his obligation to stop the reapers.
So when he sounds surprised at the date I viewed it less as "oh I've never considered you as a romance interest" and more "wow you like me too? Having you in my life might give me something live and hope for, a purpose beyond just saving the galaxy just for the sake of doing the right thing all the time."  It's also perfect timing because they've had their talks in the hospital and Kaidan finally realizes once and for all that Shepard isn't a cerberus agent after the coup attempt, they can finally trust one another fully. 
Kaidan gave Shepard a reason to be less regulatory and loosen up a bit, though unfortunately we didn't get to see the full evolution of this since we're in the middle of the war that requires their attention.  There's also the bit on the couch where Shepard expresses regret at being so focused on the mission and will never know what he missed.
I found the rather rapid hooking up of Shepard and Cortez to be more unbelievable and it left me feeling like his rebound guy.  Though I'm not hating on Steve, it is a nice idea to have Shepard be the one who helps him overcome Robert's death and eventually turn into something more I just think it happened too fast.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 19 juin 2012 - 03:20 .


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As I've said before, perhaps because I never played ME1, I don't feel a connection to Kaidan as I do with Cortez. I think that reason alone ultimately influenced my decision to choose Cortez. Kaidan's initiation scene at the Cafe was so cute and romantic and heartfelt, but I didn't feel any type of emotional connection. With Cortez, I was excited to romance him, and I think the Purgatory scene was totally laid back and is a situation I would totally enjoy and feel good and giddy about if it were to happen to me.
Maybe after I play ME1 sometime later this year I will feel that connection to Kaidan, and later, if I decide to play ME2 and ME3 sometime after, I will decide to romance Kaidan for a reason other than just to see how his romance arc plays out.

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 19 juin 2012 - 03:09 .


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xOnYourRadar wrote...

As I've said before, perhaps because I never played ME1, I don't feel a connection to Kaidan as I do with Cortez. I think that reason alone ultimately influenced my decision to choose Cortez. Kaidan's initiation scene at the Cafe was so cute and romantic and heartfelt, but I didn't feel any type of emotional connection. With Cortez, I was excited to romance him, and I think the Purgatory scene was totally laid back and is a situation I would totally enjoy and feel good and giddy about if it were to happen to me.
Maybe after I play ME1 sometime later this year I will feel that connection to Kaidan, and later, if I decide to play ME2 and ME3 sometime after, I will decide to romance Kaidan for a reason other than just to see how his romance arc plays out.


Maybe, though now that you have eyes for Steve I think he'll probably always be the one for your Shepard.  Though I guess there are some people who want Kaidan/Cortez/ and Vega all at once, personally I'm a one man kind of guy.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 19 juin 2012 - 03:18 .


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AndreasShepard wrote...

xOnYourRadar wrote...

As I've said before, perhaps because I never played ME1, I don't feel a connection to Kaidan as I do with Cortez. I think that reason alone ultimately influenced my decision to choose Cortez. Kaidan's initiation scene at the Cafe was so cute and romantic and heartfelt, but I didn't feel any type of emotional connection. With Cortez, I was excited to romance him, and I think the Purgatory scene was totally laid back and is a situation I would totally enjoy and feel good and giddy about if it were to happen to me.
Maybe after I play ME1 sometime later this year I will feel that connection to Kaidan, and later, if I decide to play ME2 and ME3 sometime after, I will decide to romance Kaidan for a reason other than just to see how his romance arc plays out.


Maybe, though now that you have eyes for Steve I think he'll probably always be the one for your Shepard.  Though I guess there are some people who want Kaidan/Cortez/ and Vega all at once, personally I'm a one man kind of guy.


Yeah, I suppose you're right. :) I'm definitely the same in regards to being a one man kinda guy, and seeing as how I'm so invested in Cortez's character and that he has my heart, an authentic MShenko may not happen.
To be honest, I'm kinda into Vega, but I think I'm more interested in him as just a romp than as a boyfriend. Lol

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 19 juin 2012 - 03:41 .


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AndreasShepard wrote...
  Though I guess there are some people who want Kaidan/Cortez/ and Vega all at once, personally I'm a one man kind of guy.


same here.

I do agree that Cortez getting over Robert only to catapult himself into the arms of Shepard is a little unrealistic, But the way I see it : My Shep romanced Jack in ME2  and unfortunately: She died during the attack on the collector Base. So that gives Cortez and Shepard more in common so it feels only natural that they spend time together because they share the common ground of losing a loved one to the collectors.

Modifié par Digitalis32, 19 juin 2012 - 03:41 .


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Digitalis32 wrote...

AndreasShepard wrote...
  Though I guess there are some people who want Kaidan/Cortez/ and Vega all at once, personally I'm a one man kind of guy.


same here.

I do agree that Cortez getting over Robert only to catapult himself into the arms of Shepard is a little unrealistic, But the way I see it : My Shep romanced Jack in ME2  and unfortunately: She died during the attack on the collector Base. So that gives Cortez and Shepard more in common so it feels only natural that they spend time together because they share the common ground of losing a loved one to the collectors.


I like your reasoning. Definitely makes sense.

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I'm just a little ticked off that no-one apart from Liara seems to care that Shep lost Jack in ME2. I wish there was a bit more recognition from the crew members for previous Love interests.

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I haven't finished my romance with Steve yet but Kaidan's was just perfect. I've never squee'd so much in my life.

To answer the original question, there is no right choice. You simply must make two different Shepards and have the best of both worlds :)

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breyant wrote...

I haven't finished my romance with Steve yet but Kaidan's was just perfect. I've never squee'd so much in my life.

To answer the original question, there is no right choice. You simply must make two different Shepards and have the best of both worlds :)


Trust me. One day I will. :)
I like the idea of having ur lover right by your side on the battlefield, and the fact Kaidan even has romantic dialogue on missions makes me curious to try his romance arc one day. But for me, for right now, Steve is the right choice. <3

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 19 juin 2012 - 04:20 .


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breyant wrote...

I haven't finished my romance with Steve yet but Kaidan's was just perfect. I've never squee'd so much in my life.


I don't squee - perhaps that is why I'm not all that interested in Kaidan.:D

I also really like the banter that goes on between Vega and Steve, from what I know you don't get that much with Kaidan.

Modifié par Digitalis32, 19 juin 2012 - 04:31 .


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AndreasShepard wrote...

*snip*

I understand that. And it looks like that. In my head, it really starts like it's just only a little more than sex. Until the last night. I think it seems like thst because there is not so much on-screen time with them both. At that point they understand that it might have started as only a fling, but it turned out to be more. I guess everyone has a canon in their head, made by in-game content and painted by their own experience. M.

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Personally I find Cortez more attractive than Kaidan (OMG BLUE EYES), but I've played ME1, and the major reason I chose Kaidan over Cortez was the established history. Plus, Raphael Sbarge's voice just... does things to me, lol.

That, plus I've spent months before the release of ME3 hoping that Kaidan was bi, so to FINALLY get him... I couldn't pick Cortez. At least on my first play through, lol.

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xOnYourRadar wrote...

Just thought I'd update you all. I just romanced Cortez after turning Kaidan down. #heartbreaker hehe


You did what?:crying: I'd never do something like that. I always go to the Purgatory first then to talk with Kaidan.

Good choice though!:P

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goodventure wrote...

Personally I find Cortez more attractive than Kaidan...


That's also a [minor] reason why I decided on Cortez. He is far more attractive to me despite Kaidan's HD face.


Beep Il wrote...

You did what?:crying: I'd never do something like that. I always go to the Purgatory first then to talk with Kaidan.

Good choice though!:P


Yeah well initially I met up with Kaidan then went to Purgatory, but afterwards I felt like a dick, so I reuploaded to do it the other way around. :innocent: Poof! Rewrote history.:wizard: Haha.

Modifié par xOnYourRadar, 19 juin 2012 - 07:14 .