OblivionDawn wrote...
nicethugbert wrote...
Your "facts" contradict my observations. I've seen Infiltrators do all sorts of things. You make it sound like the vast majority of them are fine upstanding citizens of ME3 MP that do no wrong, pillars of the community, super heros. Without them the game would be impossible. Credits would cease to exist.
The fact is that the game throws hordes of enemies at you. I've seen non-infiltrators get swarmed and ground to paste while Infiltrators line up their shots. Then the infiltrator revives his decoy, runs away, cloaks, lines up his shot. Meanwhile the decoy is getting swarmed again, and pasted. Rinse and repeat.
I speak from common sense. What an Infiltrator does isn't dependent on whether or not he is the perfect player. An Infiltrator that his the slightest idea of what he's doing will cloak exactly long enough to line up a shot and pull the trigger/fire a power/etc (unless he's capping an objective or reviving). You make it sound like an Infiltrator leads his squad into a freshly spawned group of enemies, turns on his cloak, and beats his head against the wall for 10 seconds while his squad dies. No matter how much you would like to believe otherwise, occurences like that are isolated incidents, and are a result of bad players, not bad classes.
You speak from common sense? In other words, you're theorizing. Let me tell you from experience, you don't know Infiltrators. Bleed out just for curiosity some time and spectate on some Infiltrators. They will challenge your common sense. They cloak a lot, not just to line up a quick shot. They cloak to get to a safe spot from which they can line up that shot. They cloak to avoid aggro all the time. Maybe your friends don't. But if your common sense is a description of your friends, then your friends are not at all representative of the player base.
OblivionDawn wrote...
You talk as if no one else revives or caps objectives or as if it would be impossible to do so if not for Tactical Cloak.
Oh, yes you do need to get shot when spamming powers. If the enemy has a bead on you, and on gold if you are not cloaked somebody always has a bead on you, the second you stick your head out of cover to do anything, you get shot, unless you are cloaked.
No, because of cloak, "snipers" do not stay exposed while aiming. Non-cloaked players stay exposed when aiming. Incidentally, shooting without cloak is still useless from an offensive standpoint if you don't have the skill to get killshots with careful aim.
So, can someone finally tell me how much skill there is in using tactical cloak? Tell me how much skill there is in using your team as a bullet sponge. Tell me how much skill there is in shooting unaware targets in the back.
Nothing I said implied that it was impossible to do those things without TC. Nor did I say that sniping is useless without TC. Just because I say one thing doesn't mean that I believe the polar opposite is true. Do away with that assumption.
And the amount of damage you take in the split second that you're casting a power is negligible. Even if you have to stay in cover while your shields are coming back, you can use that opportunity to "aim" at another target for when you're ready to start spamming again. EZ mode.
You've been told multiple times the skill involved in using Tactical Cloak. Apperantly this has reduced you to repeating the same exaggerated phrase over and over again to try to convince yourself that you're right. You've also made it obvious that you need a scapegoat for repeated deaths, and Infiltrators seemed like the easiest target. So bye.
You are very wrong about amounts of damage in split seconds on gold. Anything tougher than an assualt trooper can strip your shields in a split second. Atlases, nemesis, phantoms, in one shot. And while you are in cover regaining your shields, centurians, phantoms, etc. just rush right upto you. I don't think you play gold. What you describe sounds more like Bronze.
No, I've been told multiple times about reviving, capping, and lining up shots, all things that everybody else does while getting shot. But, no one wants to describe what skill there is in doing these things while cloaked.
So, my request for information still stands. Can someone finally tell me how much skill there is in using
tactical cloak? Tell me how much skill there is in using your team as a bullet sponge. Tell me how much skill there is in shooting unaware targets in the back.
Modifié par nicethugbert, 18 juin 2012 - 12:58 .
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