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[nicethugbert]

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...
Thug is just what hes name says, a thug, venting hes rage on the forums. I have a feeling its just that, hes vendetta keeps feeding him not sure what that makes him, if not the big T.

[/quote]

Actually, the reason I call myself nicethugbert is because of people like you who act as if I'm killing them with my opinion, or facts, about the game.

[/quote]

(Italics added by me.)

No, you're just annoying, especially when you mistake two words for synonyms and pretend it means something.



[/quote]

[quote]deadpixel92 wrote...

 Is the OP even using his brain? does he have one? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie][/quote]

[quote]SinerAthin wrote...

[quote]Cobra84 wrote...


That would make gold easier than silver is currently with 4 random classes.

It's much simpler to nerf the infiltrators and adjust from there.

[/quote]

How is Gold going to become easier if we buff the other classes to infil status?

[/quote]

[quote]dday3six wrote...

Seriously, I think the OP spends more time commenting in this thread than actually playing ME3.[/quote]

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

Hm. Everytime
my shot goes wide (or misses by a teeny tiny bit) I'll have to sit back
and remember how "easy" it is to play an Infiltrator.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

[/quote]

Try it with a non-infiltrator.  Not as easy.

[/quote]

I
play engineers quite a bit, actually. I can usually use my drone and
chained overload to disable enemies, making them easier to kill. I
actually played engineers more at first because Infiltrators didn't have
the nifty slowdown Commander Shepard has.

I also snipe with
batarian sentinels and human soldiers.  Tend to miss with them too
unless the target is stationary. Cloak lets you sneak around a bit. It's
what's known as a feature, and not a bug. Much like adrenaline
rush lets you get a second shot off immediately if you trigger it after
firing your one-shot sniper rifle.

Perhaps you should drop your little vendetta, but it's probably too comfortable for you.

[/quote]

Thug
is just what hes name says, a thug, venting hes rage on the forums. I
have a feeling its just that, hes vendetta keeps feeding him [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie] not sure what that makes him, if not the big T.

[/quote]

Actually,
the reason I call myself nicethugbert is because of people like you who
act as if I'm killing them with my opinion, or facts, about the game.

[/quote]

funny how you say facts, yet present very little to none of them... cant...stop...laughing Must not put on the cap... too late.

[/quote]

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]dday3six wrote...

Seriously, I think the OP spends more time commenting in this thread than actually playing ME3.[/quote]

Or maybe he has found the purpose of hes life from the BSN *shudder* what a scary idea.

[/quote]


Learn to stay on topic.  If you find me so interesting, go start your own thread about me.  You can have as many pages as you want just about me.  Go ahead, show us what you are made of.  Do it.

[nicethugbert]

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

Hm. Everytime my shot goes wide (or misses by a teeny tiny bit) I'll have to sit back and remember how "easy" it is to play an Infiltrator.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

[/quote]

Try it with a non-infiltrator.  Not as easy.

[/quote]

Riiighhhtttt.......like we equip heavy one-shot sniper rifles/shotguns on other classes that rely on powers.

If you miss a shot using other classes, you would spam your powers, or keep shooting, if you are not using a sniper rifle.

If a cloaked infiltrator miss a shot in close range, s/he is pretty much screwed unless s/he has grenades. They have a smaller window of time to correct their mistake as comapred to the other classes.

[/quote]

Infiltrators rely on powers, so the comparison is apt.  Infiltrators also use other weapons, so the comparison is apt..

If you miss a shot using Tactical Cloak, you would spam your powers, or keep shooting, regardless of what weapon you are using.  The same for any class.

Every non-infiltrator class is screwed when they miss a shot in close range.  But, Infiltrators not so much because they can run away and hide better than anyone else.



[/quote]

Tactical Cloak still has that three second cooldown dude.

Let me give you a scenario here to demonstrate my point.

You are playing against Cerberus. You are using a Widow /Claymore. You see two Phantoms coming for you. You cloak and shoot, but you miss. You lose your cloak, and you are entering cooldown. Those Phantoms are pissed and they are now using their palm gun. You've yet to reload your gun. If you reload, there is a chance you will be killed. You can either

Option A - Pray someone else gets their attention so you can do the reload cancel trick and hopefully your cloak is usable again.
Option B - Dodge like a madman

There's not much you can do when you screwed up a shot in this scenario
[/quote]

Again, that's something that happens to every class.  But, when other classes break LOS, their pursuer does not break chase.  With TC you can get away, and line up a shot in peace, letting the non-infiltrator get all the attention.

[quote]kevchy wrote...
[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

Hahahaha I can't stop laughing at page 7!

The amount of skill required for Tactical Cloak is the same as the skill required for Adrenaline Rush or Marksman. Use it whenever you can and DON'T SUCK.[/quote]
[quote]nicethugbert wrote...
Except you get shot while using ARush or Marksman.

[/quote]

Not when you are in cover, which is something I hope you actually use...
[/quote]

Who the hell turns on ARush or Marksman and just sits in cover without sticking their head out to shoot?  Or, are you saying that sticking your head out to shoot from cover makes you invincible?  I'm not sure what flavor of non-sense you are peddling with this statement.
[/quote]

I hope you are joking. The smart way of playing requires you to stick to cover, not pretending to be Rambo. General rule of Gold. You CAN stick your head out to shoot, in case you didn't know. You can put a lot of fire downrange since you are more accurate, being in cover and all. If you know what you are doing, you can stagger and kill your enemies quickly. You are not "invincible", then again, who is?
[quote]kevchy wrote...
Besides, those skills require you to stick out your head longer to effectively maximise its damage potential, which in my experience, using the right weapon can have the ability to deal a lot more damage than an infiltrator. By shooting a lot more often than an infiltrator would, of course you will draw aggro, compared to a typical infiltrator using one-shot weapons.

[/quote]

Apparently, you are not yet ready to make the connection between getting shot and difficulty of play.  But at least you finally realised that othe classes get shot more than an infiltrator.  You're learning, gratz.
[/quote]

Tactical Cloak, as the name suggests, will make you invisible enough so you don't get shot. The last time I checked, only Infiltrators get this skill. A Rush, Marksman, Biotic Charge etc. does not make you invisible.

P.S. I hope you actually utilise cover, so you don't get shot as often. It is programmed there for a reason.

[/quote]


The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 19 juin 2012 - 09:13 .

[Highlord Heian]

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

So what you're saying is you've never played gold. Because you are pretty obviously just making garbage up.

Your completely, pathetically weak complaint that Infiltrators can "sight and scope quite easily" (I removed your nonsense because clearly you don't know how to form a sentence) is countered by the basic ability to move your reticule while in cover.

Really this whole thread is a loud outcry of "I don't understand this game at all, here's the class I don't like though and here's my dumb reason for thinking I'm too good for it!" You do go out of your way to make yourself look as ignorant as possible, because it's quite hard to imagine anyone could actually be as blatantly oblivious as your stupifying argument would suggest you are.

The notion that you think you're making some kind of asinine point here is mind-boggling. The only thing you're proving is that whatever teams have to suffer your presence are severely handicapped from the start. Get off the forums and learn to play.

[Kel Riever]

You know, this is some damn good advice. OP, you may have your thread.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Highlord Heian wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

So what you're saying is you've never played gold. Because you are pretty obviously just making garbage up.

Your completely, pathetically weak complaint that Infiltrators can "sight and scope quite easily" (I removed your nonsense because clearly you don't know how to form a sentence) is countered by the basic ability to move your reticule while in cover.

Really this whole thread is a loud outcry of "I don't understand this game at all, here's the class I don't like though and here's my dumb reason for thinking I'm too good for it!" You do go out of your way to make yourself look as ignorant as possible, because it's quite hard to imagine anyone could actually be as blatantly oblivious as your stupifying argument would suggest you are.

The notion that you think you're making some kind of asinine point here is mind-boggling. The only thing you're proving is that whatever teams have to suffer your presence are severely handicapped from the start. Get off the forums and learn to play.

No, he's absolutely right.  There's a major difference between taking cover and cloaking.  When you take cover, enemies can still see you, and they'll move in close and try to flank you.  As opposed to TC, where enemies can't see you at all and don't know you're there.  There's such a difference between the two, they're not even really comparable.  Plus, when you decloak and your enemies see you, you simply get out of their line of sight and cloak again, and they're back to not knowing where you are.

[Feauce]

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

I do all the time, even without Tactical Cloak. Meaning, on Infiltrators without using the Cloak, and on non-Infiltrators who don't have it to begin with.

[robarcool]

Feauce wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

I do all the time, even without Tactical Cloak. Meaning, on Infiltrators without using the Cloak, and on non-Infiltrators who don't have it to begin with.

Yep, I do that. I was playing a human soldier yesterday. Also, if you get shot, activate AR quickly to restore your shileds and take cover. You won't lose any health. This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

[Feauce]

robarcool wrote...

This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

This is the most awesome thing I've read all day.

[nicethugbert]

Feauce wrote...

robarcool wrote...

This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

This is the most awesome thing I've read all day.

Yep, taking aggro instead of dumping it.  It is awesome.

[robarcool]

nicethugbert wrote...

Feauce wrote...

robarcool wrote...

This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

This is the most awesome thing I've read all day.

Yep, taking aggro instead of dumping it.  It is awesome.

You probably think that the playstyle infiltrators is unfair to every other class because infiltrators dump aggro. Two things:
1. Infiltrators aren't tanky, so they can't rambo like the soldiers do (Even not the soldiers can rambo full on, but much more than infiltrators)
2. Most often infiltrators do not dump aggro. Unless it is a new player still learning the ways (basically staying in cloak for longer periods), most skilled players cloak, take a shot and then get out of cloak to take the next one after the cooldown. If an infiltrator is using cloak surrounded by enemies to cap an objective, he is doing his job and very likely risking his life because from up close, cloak doesn't give you invisibility. If it were a non infiltrator, the team would divert attention of the enemy to securely do the job. That's the way the classes are played. If you have a problem with that (which it is clear you do), then you are unable to play the game without a gripe. Bioware can't do much about it.

Modifié par robarcool, 19 juin 2012 - 11:39 .

[WaffleCrab]

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...
Thug is just what hes name says, a thug, venting hes rage on the forums. I have a feeling its just that, hes vendetta keeps feeding him not sure what that makes him, if not the big T.

[/quote]

Actually, the reason I call myself nicethugbert is because of people like you who act as if I'm killing them with my opinion, or facts, about the game.

[/quote]

(Italics added by me.)

No, you're just annoying, especially when you mistake two words for synonyms and pretend it means something.



[/quote]

[quote]deadpixel92 wrote...

 Is the OP even using his brain? does he have one? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie][/quote]

[quote]SinerAthin wrote...

[quote]Cobra84 wrote...


That would make gold easier than silver is currently with 4 random classes.

It's much simpler to nerf the infiltrators and adjust from there.

[/quote]

How is Gold going to become easier if we buff the other classes to infil status?

[/quote]

[quote]dday3six wrote...

Seriously, I think the OP spends more time commenting in this thread than actually playing ME3.[/quote]

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

[quote]nicethugbert wrote...

[quote]Sinapus wrote...

Hm. Everytime
my shot goes wide (or misses by a teeny tiny bit) I'll have to sit back
and remember how "easy" it is to play an Infiltrator.

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

[/quote]

Try it with a non-infiltrator.  Not as easy.

[/quote]

I
play engineers quite a bit, actually. I can usually use my drone and
chained overload to disable enemies, making them easier to kill. I
actually played engineers more at first because Infiltrators didn't have
the nifty slowdown Commander Shepard has.

I also snipe with
batarian sentinels and human soldiers.  Tend to miss with them too
unless the target is stationary. Cloak lets you sneak around a bit. It's
what's known as a feature, and not a bug. Much like adrenaline
rush lets you get a second shot off immediately if you trigger it after
firing your one-shot sniper rifle.

Perhaps you should drop your little vendetta, but it's probably too comfortable for you.

[/quote]

Thug
is just what hes name says, a thug, venting hes rage on the forums. I
have a feeling its just that, hes vendetta keeps feeding him [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie] not sure what that makes him, if not the big T.

[/quote]

Actually,
the reason I call myself nicethugbert is because of people like you who
act as if I'm killing them with my opinion, or facts, about the game.

[/quote]

funny how you say facts, yet present very little to none of them... cant...stop...laughing Must not put on the cap... too late.

[/quote]

[quote]WaffleCrab wrote...

[quote]dday3six wrote...

Seriously, I think the OP spends more time commenting in this thread than actually playing ME3.[/quote]

Or maybe he has found the purpose of hes life from the BSN *shudder* what a scary idea.

[/quote]


Learn to stay on topic.  If you find me so interesting, go start your own thread about me.  You can have as many pages as you want just about me.  Go ahead, show us what you are made of.  Do it.
[/quote]

now why would i want to do that?

Edit: i also find it funny how you tell me to stay on topic when i either replied to you or someone else. If i could die of laughter, i propably would right about now.

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 20 juin 2012 - 12:16 .

[WaffleCrab]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

So what you're saying is you've never played gold. Because you are pretty obviously just making garbage up.

Your completely, pathetically weak complaint that Infiltrators can "sight and scope quite easily" (I removed your nonsense because clearly you don't know how to form a sentence) is countered by the basic ability to move your reticule while in cover.

Really this whole thread is a loud outcry of "I don't understand this game at all, here's the class I don't like though and here's my dumb reason for thinking I'm too good for it!" You do go out of your way to make yourself look as ignorant as possible, because it's quite hard to imagine anyone could actually be as blatantly oblivious as your stupifying argument would suggest you are.

The notion that you think you're making some kind of asinine point here is mind-boggling. The only thing you're proving is that whatever teams have to suffer your presence are severely handicapped from the start. Get off the forums and learn to play.

No, he's absolutely right.  There's a major difference between taking cover and cloaking.  When you take cover, enemies can still see you, and they'll move in close and try to flank you.  As opposed to TC, where enemies can't see you at all and don't know you're there.  There's such a difference between the two, they're not even really comparable.  Plus, when you decloak and your enemies see you, you simply get out of their line of sight and cloak again, and they're back to not knowing where you are.

A.) enemies shoot at where you were, and try to predict where you might move and shoot accordingly for 5 or more seconds.
B.) if you go within 5-10 meters they see you, for some enemies they can see you even further.

sooo what was that you were saying enemies not seeing you

[nicethugbert]

robarcool wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Feauce wrote...

robarcool wrote...

This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

This is the most awesome thing I've read all day.

Yep, taking aggro instead of dumping it.  It is awesome.

You probably think that the playstyle infiltrators is unfair to every other class because infiltrators dump aggro. Two things:
1. Infiltrators aren't tanky, so they can't rambo like the soldiers do (Even not the soldiers can rambo full on, but much more than infiltrators)
2. Most often infiltrators do not dump aggro. Unless it is a new player still learning the ways (basically staying in cloak for longer periods), most skilled players cloak, take a shot and then get out of cloak to take the next one after the cooldown. If an infiltrator is using cloak surrounded by enemies to cap an objective, he is doing his job and very likely risking his life because from up close, cloak doesn't give you invisibility. If it were a non infiltrator, the team would divert attention of the enemy to securely do the job. That's the way the classes are played. If you have a problem with that (which it is clear you do), then you are unable to play the game without a gripe. Bioware can't do much about it.

You don't get much choice in dumping aggro.  It's a feature of Tactical Cloak.  If you are in a tough spot and you can get out of it by using tactical cloak, you use tactical cloak, at which point aggro is dumped.  The enemies on Gold are incredibly aggressive.  They look for something to shoot.  If they lose detection of one player, they go to the next detectable player.  Gold after wave 6 is a swarm of hyper aggression and vigilance on the part of the enemies.  The only class in the game that can avoid that is Infiltrators.  That is a huge advantage that no other class has.  Not even Kroguards with maxed fitness can take more then a handful of hits on gold without max gear.  Even defense specced Asari Justicars can get overrun on Gold.  Infiltrators can just go out of sight out of mind while every one else gets hunted and pummeled.

[Fang92]

You act like when the infiltrator uses tactical cloak he loses the use of his gun. He might take a breather, de-cloak, get his shields up, then he is right back in the fight.

[WaffleCrab]

Fang92 wrote...

You act like when the infiltrator uses tactical cloak he loses the use of his gun. He might take a breather, de-cloak, get his shields up, then he is right back in the fight.

valid point, which i think OP will never understand :S

[GGW KillerTiger]

The more I play with infiltrators the less fun I have due to their extreme lack of skill and only sniping the targets I dwindle down. 

[GGW KillerTiger]

nicethugbert wrote...

robarcool wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Feauce wrote...

robarcool wrote...

This was a geth gold on Jade and the hunters couldn't do anything to me. You stagger me: AR on, shields on and Harrier magazine in your face you #$#@#@#$

This is the most awesome thing I've read all day.

Yep, taking aggro instead of dumping it.  It is awesome.

You probably think that the playstyle infiltrators is unfair to every other class because infiltrators dump aggro. Two things:
1. Infiltrators aren't tanky, so they can't rambo like the soldiers do (Even not the soldiers can rambo full on, but much more than infiltrators)
2. Most often infiltrators do not dump aggro. Unless it is a new player still learning the ways (basically staying in cloak for longer periods), most skilled players cloak, take a shot and then get out of cloak to take the next one after the cooldown. If an infiltrator is using cloak surrounded by enemies to cap an objective, he is doing his job and very likely risking his life because from up close, cloak doesn't give you invisibility. If it were a non infiltrator, the team would divert attention of the enemy to securely do the job. That's the way the classes are played. If you have a problem with that (which it is clear you do), then you are unable to play the game without a gripe. Bioware can't do much about it.

You don't get much choice in dumping aggro.  It's a feature of Tactical Cloak.  If you are in a tough spot and you can get out of it by using tactical cloak, you use tactical cloak, at which point aggro is dumped.  The enemies on Gold are incredibly aggressive.  They look for something to shoot.  If they lose detection of one player, they go to the next detectable player.  Gold after wave 6 is a swarm of hyper aggression and vigilance on the part of the enemies.  The only class in the game that can avoid that is Infiltrators.  That is a huge advantage that no other class has.  Not even Kroguards with maxed fitness can take more then a handful of hits on gold without max gear.  Even defense specced Asari Justicars can get overrun on Gold.  Infiltrators can just go out of sight out of mind while every one else gets hunted and pummeled.

I wish my cloak dumped aggro and put me out of sight our of mind. I activate cloak and more enemies target me .....

[NuclearTech76]

You take extra aggro but if you play with a good infiltrator you are getting revived almost any time you go down without having to use medigel.

[WaffleCrab]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

The more I play with infiltrators the less fun I have due to their extreme lack of skill and only sniping the targets I dwindle down. 

cant....stop...laughing :lol:

I am sorry. but did you just seriously complain about a class sniping, a class that gets a buff for sniping, is being whined at for sniping XD what next. are you going to cry about adepts using biotic explosions?

[robarcool]

WaffleCrab wrote...

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

The more I play with infiltrators the less fun I have due to their extreme lack of skill and only sniping the targets I dwindle down. 

cant....stop...laughing :lol:

I am sorry. but did you just seriously complain about a class sniping, a class that gets a buff for sniping, is being whined at for sniping XD what next. are you going to cry about adepts using biotic explosions?

He isn't complaining. He is riding along for the fun. Read his next post.

[Highlord Heian]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

So what you're saying is you've never played gold. Because you are pretty obviously just making garbage up.

Your completely, pathetically weak complaint that Infiltrators can "sight and scope quite easily" (I removed your nonsense because clearly you don't know how to form a sentence) is countered by the basic ability to move your reticule while in cover.

Really this whole thread is a loud outcry of "I don't understand this game at all, here's the class I don't like though and here's my dumb reason for thinking I'm too good for it!" You do go out of your way to make yourself look as ignorant as possible, because it's quite hard to imagine anyone could actually be as blatantly oblivious as your stupifying argument would suggest you are.

The notion that you think you're making some kind of asinine point here is mind-boggling. The only thing you're proving is that whatever teams have to suffer your presence are severely handicapped from the start. Get off the forums and learn to play.

No, he's absolutely right.  There's a major difference between taking cover and cloaking.  When you take cover, enemies can still see you, and they'll move in close and try to flank you.  As opposed to TC, where enemies can't see you at all and don't know you're there.  There's such a difference between the two, they're not even really comparable.  Plus, when you decloak and your enemies see you, you simply get out of their line of sight and cloak again, and they're back to not knowing where you are.

You must be joking.

An infiltrator spends most of their time out of cloak, and the only time they should be using it is for objectives, revives, and right before they start shooting. If you honestly think TC is a "magic disappear trick" that enemies immediately forget about you, they can also never see you if you can't see them, so just cover your eyes! Just as applicable.

Let's just look at what this thread is really about; a butthurt fool complaining. Probably feels inadequate after being beaten out for points by infiltrators, or angry because he can't make effective use of the class (which is obvious based on his blistering ignorance concerning how they work). But the long and short of it, this is a stupid, childish, pathetic complaint.

"Boo Hoo, I get shot at too much because the infiltrator can cloak!"

Stop whining and learn some awareness. You are literally asking other people to get shot at MORE because you can't deal with it. Pathetic.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Highlord Heian wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

The difference between Tactical Cloak and cover is that with cover, you will be seen and rushed and shot at from across the map, before you even stick your head out, on Gold.  You can't sight or scope from behind cover without getting shot on Gold.  With TC, you can sight and scope without getting shot quite easily quite on Gold.

So what you're saying is you've never played gold. Because you are pretty obviously just making garbage up.

Your completely, pathetically weak complaint that Infiltrators can "sight and scope quite easily" (I removed your nonsense because clearly you don't know how to form a sentence) is countered by the basic ability to move your reticule while in cover.

Really this whole thread is a loud outcry of "I don't understand this game at all, here's the class I don't like though and here's my dumb reason for thinking I'm too good for it!" You do go out of your way to make yourself look as ignorant as possible, because it's quite hard to imagine anyone could actually be as blatantly oblivious as your stupifying argument would suggest you are.

The notion that you think you're making some kind of asinine point here is mind-boggling. The only thing you're proving is that whatever teams have to suffer your presence are severely handicapped from the start. Get off the forums and learn to play.

No, he's absolutely right.  There's a major difference between taking cover and cloaking.  When you take cover, enemies can still see you, and they'll move in close and try to flank you.  As opposed to TC, where enemies can't see you at all and don't know you're there.  There's such a difference between the two, they're not even really comparable.  Plus, when you decloak and your enemies see you, you simply get out of their line of sight and cloak again, and they're back to not knowing where you are.

You must be joking.

An infiltrator spends most of their time out of cloak, and the only time they should be using it is for objectives, revives, and right before they start shooting. If you honestly think TC is a "magic disappear trick" that enemies immediately forget about you, they can also never see you if you can't see them, so just cover your eyes! Just as applicable.

Let's just look at what this thread is really about; a butthurt fool complaining. Probably feels inadequate after being beaten out for points by infiltrators, or angry because he can't make effective use of the class (which is obvious based on his blistering ignorance concerning how they work). But the long and short of it, this is a stupid, childish, pathetic complaint.

"Boo Hoo, I get shot at too much because the infiltrator can cloak!"

Stop whining and learn some awareness. You are literally asking other people to get shot at MORE because you can't deal with it. Pathetic.

If you aren't using cloak to escape enemy fire, then you aren't using it to its maximum potential.

[Highlord Heian]

nicethugbert wrote...

You don't get much choice in dumping aggro.  It's a feature of Tactical Cloak.  If you are in a tough spot and you can get out of it by using tactical cloak, you use tactical cloak, at which point aggro is dumped.  The enemies on Gold are incredibly aggressive.  They look for something to shoot.  If they lose detection of one player, they go to the next detectable player.  Gold after wave 6 is a swarm of hyper aggression and vigilance on the part of the enemies.  The only class in the game that can avoid that is Infiltrators.  That is a huge advantage that no other class has.  Not even Kroguards with maxed fitness can take more then a handful of hits on gold without max gear.  Even defense specced Asari Justicars can get overrun on Gold.  Infiltrators can just go out of sight out of mind while every one else gets hunted and pummeled.

You obviously have no idea how TC works. I mean, it's just, like, super, incredibly obvious.

TC only dumps aggro if you're out of sight. So basically it does not help at all with getting out of sight. A Kroguard and an Infiltrator, both surrounded by enemies, are exactly as sneaky as the other. Infiltrators have to avoid bad situations just as much as any other class - more so, considering they have to go out and do the objectives.

I'm just glad that I will never have to suffer your prescence in a game. 

[Highlord Heian]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

If you aren't using cloak to escape enemy fire, then you aren't using it to its maximum potential.

Yes, why aren't you using tactical cloak in the way that you're whining about?

If you think sitting in TC whenever possible is a good strategy, enjoy the constantly disappointed teams.

[CrunchyBaton955]

I'm not going to get into the "good vs. bad" Infiltrators, because like anything there are good (more skilled) players and bad (less skilled) players...and there is even a difference in playstyle which can seem good or bad to others.

Playing with 2 or even 3 Infriltrators can be a very good thing if you play the strategy right. What's going to happen if there are 3 Infiltrators on a team with one non-Infiltrator? The enemy is going to migrate after the non-Infy. So why doesn't the non-Infy draw the enemy into a concentration of fire from the Infy's?

If you communicate a plan and/or everyone catches onto what's going to happen, there's no reason that the non-Infy can't go from cover to cover, putting in some good shots here and there while everyone else concentrates their fire. You won't get top score, but can you say you're not being a team member and doing your part? Try it as an AA or AJA with 3 Infy's...it's a great time!