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[DNC Protoman]

Edalborez wrote...

Agree with Fox-snipe. If you notified a moderator you should have left it at that (or wait for a reply before going vigilante). You have changed nothing in regards to when this will be fixed. A patch (which is what you'll need to fix this) isn't even possible without a week in advance to approve of it. Realistically that's 2 weeks to a month that this WILL go unchecked.

That's BW's bad, sure. But you're not helping.

Don't fancy yourself as some kind of "savior" to MP, please. It's unsightly.

I'm doing what must be done. 

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Aiiro wrote...

so... some of you guys want to nerf missiles because someone found a glitch? Don't be an idiot.

First of all, just fix the problem, don't make the missiles suck.

Second of all, this isn't actually a prevalent problem.

1.) agree, just fix the problem

2.)  IT will be, it will be.

I hope it gets fixed, and soon.

I hope they ban you for exasurbating the problem and sharing with everyone the exact method in which it can be done instead of just making a normal bug report.

People who used this can easily be tracked and will be banned, it WILL be taken care of, and might have been before it became a wide spead issue.  

I'd hate to see your idea on how to get rid of say...AIDs or HIV.

Doubt very heavily it can be tracked easily.  I've encountered glitch users twice today before I looked up the video.

Very tacky comment about life-ending diseases BTW.

It wasn't tacky at all, having someone like you in charge of something like that would literally scare the ****** out of me.  It was 100% serious.  

Don't be daft, it is VERY EASY to track.   You see where it comes up in the corner that the kills are done with a missle launcher...that is tracked.  Any game with a guy using more than the max amount that can be carried...bam is glitching.

Your method is completely flawed.  I had hoped that making a comparison (one I am sure is far far closer to my heart than yours) like I did would open your eyes to this flawed thinking you are having, but in true internet fashion you ignore it and go for a personal attack instead.  Bravo.

[Oodle12]

I tried testing this out on the PC and couldn't get it to work? Sure it works on PC?
It was a laggy game. I cloaked, held down W, fired missile while switching weapon (scroll wheel).

Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

[weezer1201]

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

Modifié par weezer1201, 17 juin 2012 - 07:55 .

[DNC Protoman]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Aiiro wrote...

so... some of you guys want to nerf missiles because someone found a glitch? Don't be an idiot.

First of all, just fix the problem, don't make the missiles suck.

Second of all, this isn't actually a prevalent problem.

1.) agree, just fix the problem

2.)  IT will be, it will be.

I hope it gets fixed, and soon.

I hope they ban you for exasurbating the problem and sharing with everyone the exact method in which it can be done instead of just making a normal bug report.

People who used this can easily be tracked and will be banned, it WILL be taken care of, and might have been before it became a wide spead issue.  

I'd hate to see your idea on how to get rid of say...AIDs or HIV.

Doubt very heavily it can be tracked easily.  I've encountered glitch users twice today before I looked up the video.

Very tacky comment about life-ending diseases BTW.

It wasn't tacky at all, having someone like you in charge of something like that would literally scare the ****** out of me.  It was 100% serious.  

Don't be daft, it is VERY EASY to track.   You see where it comes up in the corner that the kills are done with a missle launcher...that is tracked.  Any game with a guy using more than the max amount that can be carried...bam is glitching.

Your method is completely flawed.  I had hoped that making a comparison (one I am sure is far far closer to my heart than yours) like I did would open your eyes to this flawed thinking you are having, but in true internet fashion you ignore it and go for a personal attack instead.  Bravo.

No personal attack at all.  You are the one comparing it to life-ending diseases. Tacky and distastefull

You are in the wrong.

Period.

[Tokenusername]

Fox-snipe wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...
1.)  this game is supposed to be a finished product.  Testing, QA, etc SHOULD HAVE ALREADY OCCURED.

1) I want to see you create something on the first-try and get it right.  Go ahead.  I'll wait.  Because even old games that were nowhere near as complex as the games of today had issues, except they couldn't be fixed.  People who claim something sucks because it wasn't done right the first time (or second, third... ) have absolutely no idea what it's like to program something.  You will never get everything perfectly right no matter how many revisions you make.

It seems like you are the one that clearly has no idea what it's like to program something.

Small bugs such as texture issues and maybe minor physics hiccups might not get detected in standard QA testing. However massive gamebreaking bugs I find hard to have been simply "missed".
There are only two reasons game breaking bugs (not even to mention the number of them) make it into a finished product.
1. They didn't do decent QA testing to find them.
or
2. They did find them, they weren't given the time to fix them. Because the producers said to just realise the game now when it will make the most money, and fix it with patchs.

Neither of these leaves me with alot of respect for EA.

(op's particular bug however I don't find hard to be missed in standard QA testing. As "code" bugs are easy to miss since there is little reason to make the exact button combo)

Modifié par Tokenusername, 17 juin 2012 - 07:57 .

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Aiiro wrote...

so... some of you guys want to nerf missiles because someone found a glitch? Don't be an idiot.

First of all, just fix the problem, don't make the missiles suck.

Second of all, this isn't actually a prevalent problem.

1.) agree, just fix the problem

2.)  IT will be, it will be.

I hope it gets fixed, and soon.

I hope they ban you for exasurbating the problem and sharing with everyone the exact method in which it can be done instead of just making a normal bug report.

People who used this can easily be tracked and will be banned, it WILL be taken care of, and might have been before it became a wide spead issue.  

I'd hate to see your idea on how to get rid of say...AIDs or HIV.

Doubt very heavily it can be tracked easily.  I've encountered glitch users twice today before I looked up the video.

Very tacky comment about life-ending diseases BTW.

It wasn't tacky at all, having someone like you in charge of something like that would literally scare the ****** out of me.  It was 100% serious.  

Don't be daft, it is VERY EASY to track.   You see where it comes up in the corner that the kills are done with a missle launcher...that is tracked.  Any game with a guy using more than the max amount that can be carried...bam is glitching.

Your method is completely flawed.  I had hoped that making a comparison (one I am sure is far far closer to my heart than yours) like I did would open your eyes to this flawed thinking you are having, but in true internet fashion you ignore it and go for a personal attack instead.  Bravo.

No personal attack at all.  You are the one comparing it to life-ending diseases. Tacky and distastefull

You are in the wrong.

Period.

You said it was tactless, that is a personal attack.  I am not comparing the glitch to a life ending disease, which is obvious if you actually read what I am writing here.  The only person in the wrong is the person who is doesn't realize he is doing more harm than good.

[DNC Protoman]

weezer1201 wrote...

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

I do understand your approach, but am glad you found it instead of some posters here who clearly wish it to be their "inside knowledge"  giving them a tool to dominate above all others, while most likely never actually reporting it to Bioware.

this way we KNOW it will be fixed. 

[weezer1201]

I am positive this bug is a result of the most recent update. I question how much beta testing is done on those updates and even more so how much would be done on players with high latency to each other.  There are some problems that just don't get revealed.

Modifié par weezer1201, 17 juin 2012 - 07:59 .

[Fox-snipe]

Tokenusername wrote...
It seems like you are the one that clearly no idea what it's like to program something.

Small bugs such as texture issues and maybe minor physics hiccups might not get detected in standard QA testing. However massive gamebreaking bugs I find hard to have been simply "missed".
There are only two reasons game breaking bugs (not even to mention the number of them) make it into a finished product.

You do realize this glitch is the result of a non-standard sequence of button pushes with high latency, right?  Are most people going to try switching back to their weapon while firing a missle?  All you have to do is just let go of the trigger.

QA teams are small.  There is absolutely no way they will find everything that might happen once the software goes mainstream.

Modifié par Fox-snipe, 17 juin 2012 - 07:58 .

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

weezer1201 wrote...

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

I do understand your approach, but am glad you found it instead of some posters here who clearly wish it to be their "inside knowledge"  giving them a tool to dominate above all others, while most likely never actually reporting it to Bioware.

this way we KNOW it will be fixed. 

And now you are over generalizing.

[DNC Protoman]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Aiiro wrote...

so... some of you guys want to nerf missiles because someone found a glitch? Don't be an idiot.

First of all, just fix the problem, don't make the missiles suck.

Second of all, this isn't actually a prevalent problem.

1.) agree, just fix the problem

2.)  IT will be, it will be.

I hope it gets fixed, and soon.

I hope they ban you for exasurbating the problem and sharing with everyone the exact method in which it can be done instead of just making a normal bug report.

People who used this can easily be tracked and will be banned, it WILL be taken care of, and might have been before it became a wide spead issue.  

I'd hate to see your idea on how to get rid of say...AIDs or HIV.

Doubt very heavily it can be tracked easily.  I've encountered glitch users twice today before I looked up the video.

Very tacky comment about life-ending diseases BTW.

It wasn't tacky at all, having someone like you in charge of something like that would literally scare the ****** out of me.  It was 100% serious.  

Don't be daft, it is VERY EASY to track.   You see where it comes up in the corner that the kills are done with a missle launcher...that is tracked.  Any game with a guy using more than the max amount that can be carried...bam is glitching.

Your method is completely flawed.  I had hoped that making a comparison (one I am sure is far far closer to my heart than yours) like I did would open your eyes to this flawed thinking you are having, but in true internet fashion you ignore it and go for a personal attack instead.  Bravo.

No personal attack at all.  You are the one comparing it to life-ending diseases. Tacky and distastefull

You are in the wrong.

Period.

You said it was tactless, that is a personal attack.  I am not comparing the glitch to a life ending disease, which is obvious if you actually read what I am writing here.  The only person in the wrong is the person who is doesn't realize he is doing more harm than good.

1,)  No it's not a personal atttack.  Your statement was tacky and uncalled for.  Period.

2.)  yes you were.  You compared it to AIDS  and HIV.

Drop it, your looking more foolish all the time.

[DNC Protoman]

Fox-snipe wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...
It seems like you are the one that clearly no idea what it's like to program something.

Small bugs such as texture issues and maybe minor physics hiccups might not get detected in standard QA testing. However massive gamebreaking bugs I find hard to have been simply "missed".
There are only two reasons game breaking bugs (not even to mention the number of them) make it into a finished product.

You do realize this glitch is the result of a non-standard sequence of button pushes with high latency, right?  Are most people going to try switching back to their weapon while firing a missle?  All you have to do is just let go of the trigger.

QA teams are small.  There is absolutely no way they will find everything that might happen once the software goes mainstream.

And now, it HAS to be fixed.

[Lucius Aelius]

First of all this is the third or forth thread on this I've seen in the past week, so I'm pretty sure Bioware already knows.

Second, posting a video and instructions on how to do it is a good way to get yourself banned along with the people using the glitch, not to mention that demanding anything from the people giving us ongoing free content probably isn't the best route to take. I'm sure they're no happier about this glitch than you, and I'm also sure no positive result can come of being so aggressive about demanding it be fixed. All you'll do is bring Abram Smash down on your head, assuming they don't just ban you outright.

Next time you ask them for something, try doing it nicely, throwing in a please and a thank you might not be a bad idea either. Yes they've made mistakes, it doesn't mean you can't be diplomatic when asking them to fix it. And really, actively trying to back them in a corner by making even more of an issue out of it is just.... a really bad idea.

[DNC Protoman]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

weezer1201 wrote...

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

I do understand your approach, but am glad you found it instead of some posters here who clearly wish it to be their "inside knowledge"  giving them a tool to dominate above all others, while most likely never actually reporting it to Bioware.

this way we KNOW it will be fixed. 

And now you are over generalizing.

Better safe than sorry.

[DNC Protoman]

Lucius Aelius wrote...

First of all this is the third or forth thread on this I've seen in the past week, so I'm pretty sure Bioware already knows.

Second, posting a video and instructions on how to do it is a good way to get yourself banned along with the people using the glitch, not to mention that demanding anything from the people giving us ongoing free content probably isn't the best route to take. I'm sure they're no happier about this glitch than you, and I'm also sure no positive result can come of being so aggressive about demanding it be fixed. All you'll do is bring Abram Smash down on your head, assuming they don't just ban you outright.

Next time you ask them for something, try doing it nicely, throwing in a please and a thank you might not be a bad idea either. Yes they've made mistakes, it doesn't mean you can't be diplomatic when asking them to fix it. And really, actively trying to back them in a corner by making even more of an issue out of it is just.... a really bad idea.

Ask nicely to make the game playable?  riiiiggggghhhtt.

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Aiiro wrote...

so... some of you guys want to nerf missiles because someone found a glitch? Don't be an idiot.

First of all, just fix the problem, don't make the missiles suck.

Second of all, this isn't actually a prevalent problem.

1.) agree, just fix the problem

2.)  IT will be, it will be.

I hope it gets fixed, and soon.

I hope they ban you for exasurbating the problem and sharing with everyone the exact method in which it can be done instead of just making a normal bug report.

People who used this can easily be tracked and will be banned, it WILL be taken care of, and might have been before it became a wide spead issue.  

I'd hate to see your idea on how to get rid of say...AIDs or HIV.

Doubt very heavily it can be tracked easily.  I've encountered glitch users twice today before I looked up the video.

Very tacky comment about life-ending diseases BTW.

It wasn't tacky at all, having someone like you in charge of something like that would literally scare the ****** out of me.  It was 100% serious.  

Don't be daft, it is VERY EASY to track.   You see where it comes up in the corner that the kills are done with a missle launcher...that is tracked.  Any game with a guy using more than the max amount that can be carried...bam is glitching.

Your method is completely flawed.  I had hoped that making a comparison (one I am sure is far far closer to my heart than yours) like I did would open your eyes to this flawed thinking you are having, but in true internet fashion you ignore it and go for a personal attack instead.  Bravo.

No personal attack at all.  You are the one comparing it to life-ending diseases. Tacky and distastefull

You are in the wrong.

Period.

You said it was tactless, that is a personal attack.  I am not comparing the glitch to a life ending disease, which is obvious if you actually read what I am writing here.  The only person in the wrong is the person who is doesn't realize he is doing more harm than good.

1,)  No it's not a personal atttack.  Your statement was tacky and uncalled for.  Period.

2.)  yes you were.  You compared it to AIDS  and HIV.

Drop it, your looking more foolish all the time.

1.  Yes it was a personal attack as my statement was not tacky nor uncalled for.  Period.  Look I can do it too.

2. No I wasn't, I didn't compare those two at all.  Try READING it carefully.  You'll get it I am sure.  

I have a better Idea, realize what you are doing is foolish, quit trying to change the subject in a effort undermine my argument.  Your idea of getting this fixed is foolish, and that is about the only foolishness going on here.

Simply making statement about how right you are and adding "period" on the end, doesn't make you look any smarter or make you any more correct.

[Edalborez]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Ask nicely to make the game playable?  riiiiggggghhhtt.

I think you have a drastically different definition of "playable" compared to most.

[DNC Protoman]

Edalborez wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Ask nicely to make the game playable?  riiiiggggghhhtt.

I think you have a drastically different definition of "playable" compared to most.

yeah, I guess I consider it unplayable when people run around with infinite 1 hit kill extreme AoE unlimited ammo weps. 

My Bad.

[Quxorda]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

weezer1201 wrote...

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

I do understand your approach, but am glad you found it instead of some posters here who clearly wish it to be their "inside knowledge"  giving them a tool to dominate above all others, while most likely never actually reporting it to Bioware.

this way we KNOW it will be fixed. 

And now you are over generalizing.

Better safe than sorry.

PMing a moderator with a link to the video is all you needed to do and all you should have done, posting a detailed description of how to preform a game breaking glitch on the official forums was.. not all that bright.  This thread should have been deleted already.

[DNC Protoman]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

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I have a better Idea, realize what you are doing is foolish, quit trying to change the subject in a effort undermine my argument.  Your idea of getting this fixed is foolish, and that is about the only foolishness going on here.

Simply making statement about how right you are and adding "period" on the end, doesn't make you look any smarter or make you any more correct.

You have no agrument, you were in the wrong and got called out for it, then cried.

Our exchange is over.

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

weezer1201 wrote...

I didn't post all over these forums because this is an EA property and I thought it would be rude. I let them know over a week ago, but I have no problem with showing the problem on an independent website.  I can honestly say I never tried to exploit it either, and if I get banned so be it, I stopped intentionally trying to recreate the glitch as soon as I satisified myself to the cause.

I do understand your approach, but am glad you found it instead of some posters here who clearly wish it to be their "inside knowledge"  giving them a tool to dominate above all others, while most likely never actually reporting it to Bioware.

this way we KNOW it will be fixed. 

And now you are over generalizing.

Better safe than sorry.

....seriously, how is that being "safe".  You are using that saying completely wrong.  I hadn't even heard of this bug until now, luckily I am one of the ones who won't ever use it.  Too bad you can't say the same for everyone you announced it too.

Being "Safe" would have been making a lengthy and multiple bug reports on the issue.  Being "Sorry" on the other hand is what you are tempting by announcing how to do this.

[weezer1201]

I am totally separate entity from the guy who made this forum wanting immediate action. I don't want the bug to exist, but I don't care that much. I figure there are enough players out there that won't exploit it and I can still find good games. It is the same group that never credit glitched while everyone else maxed all their ultra-rares in the first month of the game. As for posting an instructional video, yeah I'm guilty and I spent several days glitching myself to figure it out. I don't care about the ban if it comes because I will just move on to something else and I wasn't doing anything wrong. In my mind I was diagnosing a problem. I posted it to show EA the problem, to let other people know about when it happens to them, and because I think it is a ridiculous bug.

[Swarlos262]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Better safe than sorry.

Can you explain the "safe" part of your actions? You seem so concerned that this is a game breaking bug that will destroy multiplayer, but if you took a minute or two to actually think about your actions you'd realize that you are doing far more harm than good. ANYBODY can tell that this is a serious glitch at a glance, and this includes Bioware. They have been notified privately that such a glitch exists, and I'm sure that they are working on it. They don't need you to tell them that this has the potential to lose them money, and they especially don't need you to spread the glitch around like a virus to the whole community.

I applaud the person who did research into this how exactly this glitch is activated and who messaged the Bio Devs about it, because that is actually helpful. Left at that, this glith could have flown under the radar of most players, hardly being used before Bioware finds a way to fix it that could take a few weeks or more. 

But now, those few weeks or more are likely to be RAMPANT with this glitch. If this MP game because unplayable because of this glitch, is only because of you spreading it around.

If this MP game survives it will be because enough people realize how bad of a thing spreading this glitch is, and the community as a whole ignores this glitch for the sake of the game.

[Hexi-decimal]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

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I have a better Idea, realize what you are doing is foolish, quit trying to change the subject in a effort undermine my argument.  Your idea of getting this fixed is foolish, and that is about the only foolishness going on here.

Simply making statement about how right you are and adding "period" on the end, doesn't make you look any smarter or make you any more correct.

You have no agrument, you were in the wrong and got called out for it, then cried.

Our exchange is over.

You have no argument, you were in the wrong, got called out for it and decided to misdirect the conversation to avoid the obvious flaws in your approach to fixing the problem.  Again, I can do it too.

Feel free to ignore me if you wish, but again your method is flawed, your logic is flawed and you have no idea what you are doing.  It is evident in your complete inability to actually adress my argument, and in your desperate hope of defacing my argument because you don't agree with how it was presented.  Nevermind the fact you were incorrect on that too.

Modifié par Hexi-decimal, 17 juin 2012 - 08:12 .