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[Mendelevosa]

Dat voice tone.

[Dusk1976]

Well, until this glitch is fixed, expect Tuesday's "balance" changes to include the "temporary" disabling of missiles. If Commander Shepard doesn't need them, neither should you!

[SymbolicGamer]

Meatiershower wrote...

Right at the bottom of the paper the Multiplayer Online code came on it clearly states that all users are subject to the ToS, period. If you play, you agreed to it. The ToS are posted here:

http://tos.ea.com/le...ERMS/US/en/PC/

They have posted, quite clearly, what will happen to exploiters and cheaters. If you don't like it, I say you should take a stand against their injustice! Cheat and exploit like crazy. Be a martyr and fight the oppression! Then create a new account and let us know how that noble battle turned out.

Internet lawyering about how they didn't specifically say, "The Missile Exploit will get you banned!" isn't gonna mean squat when they hit the ban button.

Edit: spelling error

EA can terminate your account for any reason they want. That's a standard agreement. And unless you're exploiting to purposely upset other players' experiences, they wouldn't ban you for encountering an unpredictable glitch while playing a game. This game is just  filled with em. I dunno how many times I've accidentally fell through the floor, went off the map or had some other weird thing happen without me trying. Only a bad company would punish others for their own mistakes.

[Meatiershower]

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Right at the bottom of the paper the Multiplayer Online code came on it clearly states that all users are subject to the ToS, period. If you play, you agreed to it. The ToS are posted here:

http://tos.ea.com/le...ERMS/US/en/PC/

They have posted, quite clearly, what will happen to exploiters and cheaters. If you don't like it, I say you should take a stand against their injustice! Cheat and exploit like crazy. Be a martyr and fight the oppression! Then create a new account and let us know how that noble battle turned out.

Internet lawyering about how they didn't specifically say, "The Missile Exploit will get you banned!" isn't gonna mean squat when they hit the ban button.

Edit: spelling error

EA can terminate your account for any reason they want. That's a standard agreement. And unless you're exploiting to purposely upset other players' experiences, they wouldn't ban you for encountering an unpredictable glitch while playing a game. This game is just  filled with em. I dunno how many times I've accidentally fell through the floor, went off the map or had some other weird thing happen without me trying. Only a bad company would punish others for their own mistakes.

I showed you EXACTLY what it said. View it as you like. People will get banned for using it. Rightly so, and good riddance to trash.

[Rafficus III]

I was actually going to post a question asking about this. I saw it the other night in a gold match and it was utterly ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind +70k credits for doing absolutely nothing, but at the same time it's a buzzkiller when you can't even get a few shots off when someone is running around killing all the enemies as they spawn.

[DNC Protoman]

Meatiershower wrote...

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Right at the bottom of the paper the Multiplayer Online code came on it clearly states that all users are subject to the ToS, period. If you play, you agreed to it. The ToS are posted here:

http://tos.ea.com/le...ERMS/US/en/PC/

They have posted, quite clearly, what will happen to exploiters and cheaters. If you don't like it, I say you should take a stand against their injustice! Cheat and exploit like crazy. Be a martyr and fight the oppression! Then create a new account and let us know how that noble battle turned out.

Internet lawyering about how they didn't specifically say, "The Missile Exploit will get you banned!" isn't gonna mean squat when they hit the ban button.

Edit: spelling error

EA can terminate your account for any reason they want. That's a standard agreement. And unless you're exploiting to purposely upset other players' experiences, they wouldn't ban you for encountering an unpredictable glitch while playing a game. This game is just  filled with em. I dunno how many times I've accidentally fell through the floor, went off the map or had some other weird thing happen without me trying. Only a bad company would punish others for their own mistakes.

I showed you EXACTLY what it said. View it as you like. People will get banned for using it. Rightly so, and good riddance to trash.

when you take an attitude like that, you stand with the glitch.  It shouldn't exist, fight not amoungst yourselves, but attack the real problem.

[Meatiershower]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Right at the bottom of the paper the Multiplayer Online code came on it clearly states that all users are subject to the ToS, period. If you play, you agreed to it. The ToS are posted here:

http://tos.ea.com/le...ERMS/US/en/PC/

They have posted, quite clearly, what will happen to exploiters and cheaters. If you don't like it, I say you should take a stand against their injustice! Cheat and exploit like crazy. Be a martyr and fight the oppression! Then create a new account and let us know how that noble battle turned out.

Internet lawyering about how they didn't specifically say, "The Missile Exploit will get you banned!" isn't gonna mean squat when they hit the ban button.

Edit: spelling error

EA can terminate your account for any reason they want. That's a standard agreement. And unless you're exploiting to purposely upset other players' experiences, they wouldn't ban you for encountering an unpredictable glitch while playing a game. This game is just  filled with em. I dunno how many times I've accidentally fell through the floor, went off the map or had some other weird thing happen without me trying. Only a bad company would punish others for their own mistakes.

I showed you EXACTLY what it said. View it as you like. People will get banned for using it. Rightly so, and good riddance to trash.

when you take an attitude like that, you stand with the glitch.  It shouldn't exist, fight not amoungst yourselves, but attack the real problem.

Wtf are you on about?! Glitchers, cheaters, and exploiters should all be banned, period. Clear? I do not 'stand with the glitch'.

[SymbolicGamer]

Meatiershower wrote...
I showed you EXACTLY what it said. View it as you like. People will get banned for using it. Rightly so, and good riddance to trash.

So if someone accidentally encounters a glitch, which isn't very difficult at all, and gets banned for it... You think that's justified?

The only thing that's garbarge is the fact that people calling for ban waves, rather than having Bioware address the issue and fix the actual problem, which is the fact you're allowed to do it in the first place. 

Modifié par SymbolicGamer, 17 juin 2012 - 07:51 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...
I showed you EXACTLY what it said. View it as you like. People will get banned for using it. Rightly so, and good riddance to trash.

So if someone accidentally encounters a glitch, which isn't very difficult at all, and gets banned for it... You think that's justified?

The only thing that's garbarge is the fact that people calling for ban waves, rather than having Bioware address the issue and fix the actual problem, which is the fact you're allowed to do it in the first place. 

It's pretty hard to do accidentally.

The games been out for how long now? and we just now discovered it? 

[DNC Protoman]

SymbolicGamer wrote...

encounters a glitch, which isn't very difficult at all, and gets banned for it... You think that's justified?

The only thing that's garbarge is the fact that people calling for ban waves, rather than having Bioware address the issue and fix the actual problem, which is the fact you're allowed to do it in the first place. 

This x 100000000000000000

I am shocked that people are demanding bans.  They should be concerned with the MASSIVE PROBLEM we have here, not shrinking the player base.

[Meatiershower]

Accidently? No, no one should be banned for it. If it was happening to me, I would quit the match. Others might keep going for the rest of the match. Probably OK too. Do it a second time? Adios. It's not shrinking a 'player base', since cheaters are, by definition, not playing the game, so are not players. Get rid of scum for the guys who play fair.

[Sabbatine]

IAMREALITY wrote...

On edit:  some would like to confuse the issue and imply that the above statements are not factual and that this either isn't cheating or considered bannable.  They are wrong on all counts.  The above is factual and the consequences valid.
 (this is in regards to the following thread:  social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12614151)

If reload cancelling isn't a bannable offense I don't see why this would be.  They both allow players to exploit game mechanics to greatly increase their dps.  The scale might be greater with the cobra missile, but they are fundamentally identical.

[Sabbatine]

DNC Protoman wrote...

I am shocked that people are demanding bans.  They should be concerned with the MASSIVE PROBLEM we have here, not shrinking the player base.

You think someone who uses this exploit is a player?  That's laughable, they aren't playing, they are cheating... and the cheat is so powerful that they actually prevent the rest of their team from playing too.  Banning people who do this actually increase the player base, not reduce.

[Leones Maneres]

Dude...Let BW handle the cheaters - they do not need our help being MP police. There are BW dudes and babes getting paid real $$$ Canadian to do this kind of thing.

[akula51]

Personally, I think it'd be a great time to buff the Cobra.

[Define Clarity]

I've just recreated this glitch and there's a few things I can say firsthand about it.

- You're unable to acquire ammo (for the whole match)
- You're unable to revive
- You're unable to use regular Rockets or Ammo Packs
- You're unable to activate objectives
- Both weapons receive said glitch if the user carries two weapons
- Can only be done off-host with high latency
- Only works with explosive (Krysae, Falcon, Striker, Scorpion) weapons

It has it's downfalls!....Joking. In all seriousness, the way this glitch is performed looks like it'd be based off an accident, but im pretty sure Bioware can just look at match statistics and determine that "5 Rockets cannot score more than X kills" and drop the hammer on heavy abusers.

Modifié par Define Clarity, 17 juin 2012 - 08:28 .

[eddieoctane]

I find great humor in claiming anything done in MP is "cheating". Cheating implies that you are somehow preventing someone else from winning by fair means. The multiplayer of ME3 only allows for all players to win. Taken to the furthest possible extent, any "cheat" or "exploit" amounts to little more than petty theft from EA, no worse than taking a pack of gum. But even that is a huge stretch, considering all these items are still available totally free. If people are to be banned for violating the EULA or ToS, so be it. But it isn't cheating.

[SymbolicGamer]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

It's pretty hard to do accidentally.

The games been out for how long now? and we just now discovered it? 

Maybe for you. 
It's three buttons presses.
It's latency-dependant.
It's beneficial with four guns. Two of which were not available until recently. The other two weren't commonly used.
Weapon swap exploits aren't new, and other games have had similar methods with varrying effects. People could easily stumble upon this while trying to do something else. I guarantee you if someone with a lot of  shooter experience saw someone else do it, they could replicate it if the latency was just right. 
And once you know the "secret", it becomes easy to do, and to avoid.
Which is actually a good thing, because it's somewhat controllable unlike so many of the bugs in the game that haven't been fixed, and just ruin your experience.

[jaydubs67]

Leones Maneres wrote...

Dude...Let BW handle the cheaters - they do not need our help being MP police. There are BW dudes and babes getting paid real $$$ Canadian to do this kind of thing.

The point is not for us to police anyone.  The point is to make it clear to other players that it is very likely BW will be policing it.  

Somone might see the glitch in-game and come to the forums to try to find out how to do it themselves.  Then they might see the thread in capital letters, check it out, and decide it's not worth the risk.  That's one player who hasn't done anything wrong, dissuaded from exploiting and less likely to be removed from the player base.  

[weezer1201]

eddieoctane wrote...

I find great humor in claiming anything done in MP is "cheating". Cheating implies that you are somehow preventing someone else from winning by fair means. The multiplayer of ME3 only allows for all players to win. Taken to the furthest possible extent, any "cheat" or "exploit" amounts to little more than petty theft from EA, no worse than taking a pack of gum. But even that is a huge stretch, considering all these items are still available totally free. If people are to be banned for violating the EULA or ToS, so be it. But it isn't cheating.

I can't really disagree with this, but it does effect enjoyability of play for others around you.  I can't consider it cheating, but it is in extremely bad taste and I can't argue with wanting to elliminate players compromising the game enviroment.

[Lord Chun]

Hurray another thread to tell people about the rocket glitch



Facepalm

[SymbolicGamer]

Define Clarity wrote...
the way this glitch is performed looks like it'd be based off an accident.

Most tricks and exploits are just experimentation. I'm one of those players who will try to discover things on their own. There's a sense of accomplishment that comes with figuring out something the developers didn't intend for you to do. Then someone else finds out about it, posts it on youtube and it gets patched a month later.

Lord Chun wrote...

Hurray another thread to tell people about the rocket glitch 

No stopping it now.
It should be fixed. There's a lot of disadavantages to the glitch, which have already been posted in this thread.

At least it's not as bad as the vanguard glitch. That's the worst. Especially on later rounds.

Modifié par SymbolicGamer, 17 juin 2012 - 08:50 .

[jaydubs67]

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Most tricks and exploits are just experimentation. I'm one of those players who will try to discover things on their own. There's a sense of accomplishment that comes with figuring out something the developers didn't intend for you to do. 

All well and good. 

SymbolicGamer wrote...
Then someone else finds out about it, posts it on youtube and it gets patched a month later.

 

But this is also good.  We want it patched.  The sooner the better.  

[Define Clarity]

SymbolicGamer wrote...

Define Clarity wrote...
the way this glitch is performed looks like it'd be based off an accident.

Most tricks and exploits are just experimentation. I'm one of those players who will try to discover things on their own. There's a sense of accomplishment that comes with figuring out something the developers didn't intend for you to do. Then someone else finds out about it, posts it on youtube and it gets patched a month later.

I agree. I remember doing speedruns and sequence breaking glitches on Metroid Prime back in the Gamecube days.

It seems this is where most of the issue lies seeing how they have to recreate, test, and issue a patch without causing anymore potential bugs.

[Zero132132]

Why is it that people focus on the glitchers rather than the glitch? Banning everyone might be a way to fix the problem, but it's a stupid way that eliminates much of the fanbase and still leaves it open for exploitation. Why aren't people calling for them to fix this, since it's kind of absolutely awful that it's in the game at all?

Seriously, with the credit exploit, it took them months to fix it, and there never was anything in the game itself through any sort of message mentioning that bans would follow, just a vague mention of "undocumented features" (is there even a set of documented features?) in a long agreement that was probably read by almost no one. The action needs to be on the side of fixing what's broken. Maybe throw in some bans too, but the bulk of the effort should go towards a fix. A REAL one.