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[Kidd]

Plaintiff wrote...

Well, I think combos would be sweet as well. Maybe not the way they're implemented in fighting games, but many RPGs and RPG-like games have a mechanic that allows you to combine certain skills to create various effects.

In fact, DA;O and DA2 both had something like that, but I would like to see it greatly expanded upon.

Good point, and I happen to agree haha. I was just imagining the visual of playing DA3 with my arcade stick, holding downback and hitting light punch, then quickly moving the stick forward, back, forward + three kick buttons xD
(<3 Chun-Li <3)

[Plaintiff]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Well, I think combos would be sweet as well. Maybe not the way they're implemented in fighting games, but many RPGs and RPG-like games have a mechanic that allows you to combine certain skills to create various effects.

In fact, DA;O and DA2 both had something like that, but I would like to see it greatly expanded upon.

Good point, and I happen to agree haha. I was just imagining the visual of playing DA3 with my arcade stick, holding downback and hitting light punch, then quickly moving the stick forward, back, forward + three kick buttons xD
(<3 Chun-Li <3)

I'm more of a Soul Calibur fan myself.

I would play an arcade fighting game made by Bioware. It's at least going to have a better story than most.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 17 juin 2012 - 12:54 .

[Teddie Sage]

After what they did to Mass Effect, SWTOR and Dragon Age, I wouldn't be so sure Plaintiff.

[bEVEsthda]

Teddie Sage wrote...

bEVEsthda wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes. Lazy. You don't purchase a video game expecting a certain amount of characters to be voiceless. If I wanted to read something, I'd purchase a book.

You're excused for not understanding.

Voiceless is a feature.  A desired feature by many belonging to a different group than you.

You clearly don't understand my point of view. Let's all agree to disagree then.

I understand your pow perfectly. So much that I understand that you don't understand.
There is nothing here to agree or disagree about, but if "VO is a must for DA3?" , as the original question was.
You are entitled to want a voiced PC.
You're not entitled to reduce the argument for a voiceless PC to "being lazy", because the argument for a voiceless PC is not yours.

[Kidd]

Plaintiff wrote...

I'm more of a Soul Calibur fan myself.

I would play an arcade fighting game made by Bioware. It's at least going to have a better story than most.

Ohhh yes, I've dreamt about forming BioWare Sweden and developing a fighting game called Dragon Effect or the like sooo many times =) I want Morrigan to cast Storm of the Century on Vega, I want Garrus to snipe Aveline, I want Liara and Leliana to hook u-I mean to take each other on in close quarters mud wrestli-I mean melee.

Jokes aside, it would be amazing =)

SoulCal 5 is pretty cool btw =) I play Hilde and Leixia.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 17 juin 2012 - 01:01 .

[Teddie Sage]

@Bevesthda: Just don't bother trying to change my mind you're just going to start a flame war and nobody wants that. I made up my mind about gaming and that's just how it is. Dragon Age: Origins was a pretty good game for me, but the lack of voice acting simply was a turn off. I understand that portable consoles don't always have the capacity to have voiced protagonists, like Pokemon or whatever, but you got a PC, a PS3 and a XBOX 360 where capacities can go way beyond that. So yes, to me voiceless protagonists is just lazy because you could simply hire decent voice actors to do the job (don't pull me out the money excuse, BioWare makes millions and voice actors are cheaper than live action ones). I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 17 juin 2012 - 01:07 .

[Teddie Sage]

Don't troll. Thank you.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 17 juin 2012 - 01:16 .

[Kidd]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Can you voice that for youtube, I really dont want to have to read that?

Oww x)

[bEVEsthda]

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Bevesthda: Just don't bother trying to change my mind you're just going to start a flame war and nobody wants that. I made up my mind about gaming and that's just how it is. Dragon Age: Origins was a pretty good game for me, but the lack of voice acting simply was a turn off. I understand that portable consoles don't always have the capacity to have voiced protagonists, like Pokemon or whatever, but you got a PC, a PS3 and a XBOX 360 where capacities can go way beyond that. So yes, to me voiceless protagonists is just lazy because you could simply hire decent voice actors to do the job. I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper. Cha-Ching!

I don't try to change your mind. I've never had that intention. This opinion and preferences you have are perfectly acceptable. I just tried to explain that, for a rather large group of people, voiceless is a desirable feature in itself.
That it isn't, for you, is quite OK. But in the big picture this is not just a question of adding a new feature. It's a question of choosing between two different features.

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 17 juin 2012 - 01:13 .

[Teddie Sage]

bEVEsthda wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

@Bevesthda: Just don't bother trying to change my mind you're just going to start a flame war and nobody wants that. I made up my mind about gaming and that's just how it is. Dragon Age: Origins was a pretty good game for me, but the lack of voice acting simply was a turn off. I understand that portable consoles don't always have the capacity to have voiced protagonists, like Pokemon or whatever, but you got a PC, a PS3 and a XBOX 360 where capacities can go way beyond that. So yes, to me voiceless protagonists is just lazy because you could simply hire decent voice actors to do the job. I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper. Cha-Ching!

I don't try to change your mind. I've never had that intention. This opinion and preferences you have are perfectly acceptable. I just tried to explain that for a rather large group of people, voiceless is a desirable feature in itself.
That it isn't, for you, is quite OK. But in the big picture this is not just a question adding a new feature. It's a question of choosing between two different features.

Thank you. I wasn't trying to impose my opinions as facts anyways. People tend to freak out (I'm one of them) when others don't agree with them. Gotta remind myself this is the internet and not everything is 100% clear. Specially when it comes to sarcasm, trolling and opinions vs facts. The tone people take in general in some posts might make things ever worsê. I was pretty defensive, see what happened. *puts a paper bag on his head*

[Teddie Sage]

Just know that you've been reported for constant harassment and trolling. Be mature and do the right thing, stop trolling and leave me alone. Thank you.

[bEVEsthda]

Teddie Sage wrote...
Thank you.

I think I'm, fundamentally, a rather disagreeable person. I'm arrogant. I'm bad tempered. I'm not very patient at all. And I'm prone to rile and rant.
But these forums have been healthy for me. Over the years I've admired some posters here, for their infinite patience and crystal clear posting.

I try to hold them as examples for myself. I fail of course, particularly when it comes to being concise. ...And I have lapses. Still, I try.

[grregg]

To answer the original question, yes, it is (for me). After being spoiled with The Witcher, Mass Effect, etc I cannot play a game with a voiceless protagonist. I have Fallout NV installed, I heard very good things about it and I cannot play because it doesn't have a voiced protagonist.

Any hints as to how to bring myself to do it?

[AcidRelic]

I like them but it's not a must for me. I really liked DA2's over all of ME's just for the fact you said what was closer to the quote in DA2 than any of the ME's LOL.

[FaWa]

Plaintiff wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

You're obviously not trying to encourage any sort of discussion. You clearly made up your own mind.

Why ask the question if you don't want an answer?

Skyrim and Dragon Age are extremely different games. They're barely even in the same genre.

I could say that Dragon Age should include free-running because it works really well in Assassin's Creed, and that would make as much sense as your argument.

Jump buttons, please. I love jumping in Megaman. Oh oh oh, and let's make a complex combo system like in Street Fighter. I always feel so cool when I land an ultra from a crouching jab since the timing window for the ultra input is 1/60 of a second. Would definitely make DA3 feel better! 

I can't tell if this is in jest or what, but I for one would greatly appreciate a jump button. It would add a whole other dimension to exploration.

I love jumping in almost any game where it's a feature.

Raw

[AkiKishi]

grregg wrote...

To answer the original question, yes, it is (for me). After being spoiled with The Witcher, Mass Effect, etc I cannot play a game with a voiceless protagonist. I have Fallout NV installed, I heard very good things about it and I cannot play because it doesn't have a voiced protagonist.

Any hints as to how to bring myself to do it?

Read the lines out loud ? 

Once you get into it though you won't really notice at all. It's not a game that will draw attention to you not having a voice.

[Pzykozis]

Not a must, nothing really is ever a must, but preferred for sure. I'd love to be able to jump aswell... but thats a different topic and heavily tied into exploration and stuff.

[Dakota Strider]

A VO as well as a chosen character, like Hawke, limits a player's options of who we can role play. Three character classes, one race, and three voice choices, is very limiting. Bioware used to be better than that. Go back to expanded player choices, and let us be the ones who determines our characters' personalities. Otherwise, the game basically plays like watching a movie, with few choices. And as a movie, it is not very good. Bioware, please return to making games.

[Jerrybnsn]

Teddie Sage wrote...

I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper.

So how do you make the choices on what response your character will make on the dialogue wheel?

[zyntifox]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper.

So how do you make the choices on what response your character will make on the dialogue wheel?

Icons! 

[Dakota Strider]

Teddie Sage wrote...

I still think that if I wanted to read something, I'd go for a book instead of paying 60$ for a game that forces me to read stuff. Books are cheaper.

And it would be easy to counter, that if I wanted to watch and listen to cinematics, I could buy or rent a movie for much cheaper, and of higher quality. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Don't troll. Thank you.

Too long; didn't read. Youtube please (dont be lazy).

The fact that the comment was made that a silent PC is lazy and then followed by the comment that the poster couldn't be bothered to read is humorous to me. 

Although, to be honest, the only text involved with a silent PC is barely more than you see with the paraphrases in DA2. Silent NPCs are a thing of the past, but a voiced main character doesn't bring much to the table for me. Saying four or five more words than what is showing in paraphrase, at the risk of the paraphrase not saying what I had intended by selecting it, doesn't seem that worth it. 

Not to mention the extra cost involved that takes away resources from other areas.