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[Wulfram]

TheChris92 wrote...

It is interesting how people don't complain about Geralt talking in the Witcher.

If it wasn't for Geralt's voice acting, I might have got somewhere nearer completing TW1.

Though to be fair, that may have been a problem of quality rather than principle.

[zyntifox]

I prefer voiced protagonist in a game where i can't roleplay, such as Uncharted. But in a RPG i prefer my protagonist silent. However, since i can't roleplay with the dialogue system they are going to use they might as well use a voiced protagonist.

[Allan Schumacher]

Wulfram wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

It is interesting how people don't complain about Geralt talking in the Witcher.

If it wasn't for Geralt's voice acting, I might have got somewhere nearer completing TW1.

Though to be fair, that may have been a problem of quality rather than principle.

I found the second game markedly improved.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Wulfram wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

It is interesting how people don't complain about Geralt talking in the Witcher.

If it wasn't for Geralt's voice acting, I might have got somewhere nearer completing TW1.

Though to be fair, that may have been a problem of quality rather than principle.

In Witcher everybody sounds like they're from England and Scotland, but Geralt sounds like Wolverine. It's distracting and kind of lame. On top of that, the English voice acting is almost universally bad.  There's a reason I can't stand to play the Witcher games in any language other than Polish, where the voice acting is actually good. Helps that I speak it a little too and subtitles take care of the big fancy words I don't understand.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

samgurl775 wrote...

As long as the voice acting doesn't suck (like male Hawke's did) I'm ok with it.

Pfff. I was fine with Male Hawke's performance. I'll take him over Mark Meer as BroShep any day. Now that was a sucky performance.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Fyurian2 wrote...

Voiced or not, it wouldn't bother me.
No voice for our character means that I just read the dialogue choices and imagine my own voice saying them.

Even for player characters of the opposite sex?! Weird...

[Dominus]

If it wasn't for Geralt's voice acting, I might have got somewhere nearer completing TW1. Though to be fair, that may have been a problem of quality rather than principle.

Most of the writing didn't bug me, though some of it(Toruviel's 'change of heart', and the roaring like a tiger thing) borders on the absurd. As mentioned above, it's a major improvement(writing and otherwise) in the second.

Regarding the original topic query of 'do you need VO?', the answer is no. There's no doubt we'll be seeing it in DA:I anyhow, but that particular part doesn't bug me one way or another.

Modifié par DominusVita, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:18 .

[Fast Jimmy]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

Fyurian2 wrote...

Voiced or not, it wouldn't bother me.
No voice for our character means that I just read the dialogue choices and imagine my own voice saying them.

Even for player characters of the opposite sex?! Weird...

Why is that weird? 

Its not like a guy would be wearing a dress and talking outloud in a squeaky high voice while doing it (not that there is anything wrong with that). When you read a book with a person of a different gender, is it weird you hear that voice as the opposite gender, even if it is in your head and of your own making?

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 30 janvier 2013 - 06:37 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Why can't people just imagine a voice of the appropriate gender?

[JaegerBane]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Why can't people just imagine a voice of the appropriate gender?

Because gender is very relevant to the Id. The entire concept of transgender individuals would not exist if one could simply make themselves think like a given gender rather than what they think like naturally, and a large part of that difference is down to voice.

Of course, you can make the effort, but you'll tend to find very few people can easily think in the voice of another gender. At least, people over the age of 12.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 30 janvier 2013 - 06:44 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

The words are already written for you. It's just a matter of delivery.

[Xilizhra]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The words are already written for you. It's just a matter of delivery.

I honestly don't believe it's as effective as actually hearing it. Especially not when everyone but you has a voice.

[AlexJK]

JaegerBane wrote...

Because gender is very relevant to the Id. The entire concept of transgender individuals would not exist if one could simply make themselves think like a given gender rather than what they think like naturally, and a large part of that difference is down to voice.

Of course, you can make the effort, but you'll tend to find very few people can easily think in the voice of another gender. At least, people over the age of 12.

Is this based on a scientific study of some kind? I can't see why it would be difficult to imagine your character speaking in a different voice than your own, of either the same or opposite sex. I don't have an issue with playing either male or female characters in DAO.

It's not a factor of changing your own personal identity, you're just imagining a voice for a character on-screen.

[Cutlasskiwi]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

samgurl775 wrote...

As long as the voice acting doesn't suck (like male Hawke's did) I'm ok with it.

Pfff. I was fine with Male Hawke's performance. I'll take him over Mark Meer as BroShep any day. Now that was a sucky performance.

Nah, Mark Meer totally stole the show in Mass Effect.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

Either way is fine for me. Maybe it is just me, but when I pick an option to say something, I don't say it in my head in my voice. For me it is just a silent PC staring at an NPC waiting for a response.

[JaegerBane]

AlexJK wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Because gender is very relevant to the Id. The entire concept of transgender individuals would not exist if one could simply make themselves think like a given gender rather than what they think like naturally, and a large part of that difference is down to voice.

Of course, you can make the effort, but you'll tend to find very few people can easily think in the voice of another gender. At least, people over the age of 12.

Is this based on a scientific study of some kind? I can't see why it would be difficult to imagine your character speaking in a different voice than your own, of either the same or opposite sex. I don't have an issue with playing either male or female characters in DAO.

It's not a factor of changing your own personal identity, you're just imagining a voice for a character on-screen.

Yes... at least, a scientific study done about 7 years ago, it was something I read while at Uni

It's not really about changing your identity, its more that the human brain struggles to think personal thoughts in a voice different to the person's own. You can imagine someone saying something but trying to accept that as your own speech doesn't work in most cases.

It's a shame I don't have the name of the paper to hand, its interesting. It should be easy to find related stuff if you're interested.

[JaegerBane]

Cutlasskiwi wrote...

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

samgurl775 wrote...

As long as the voice acting doesn't suck (like male Hawke's did) I'm ok with it.

Pfff. I was fine with Male Hawke's performance. I'll take him over Mark Meer as BroShep any day. Now that was a sucky performance.

Nah, Mark Meer totally stole the show in Mass Effect.

+1. One of the big mysteries of the last few years for me is why on earth it became the fashionable thing to bash Mark Meer's voice acting. Right next to why Serenity flopped and why Piers Morgan hasn't been deported.

[Sir George Parr]

^You can keep Piers Moron, we don't want him back.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'm playing Skyrim right now and I love it; to me the only thing that's missing are more fleshed out characters (My LI is a bit of a one-note guy lol) and my character's voice. I wish I could hear what the little guy sounds like!

[Sylvius the Mad]

I can't really conduct a fair comparison of the voice because of the paraphrases. Since with the silent protagonist I got to know what I was selecting, we don't get to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

[Sylvius the Mad]

motomotogirl wrote...

I wish I could hear what the little guy sounds like!

What if you don't like how he sounds?  What if the way he sounds doesn't suit the character you've designed?

[Johnny Shepard]

Myself I like that DA2 had VO and I'm glad DA3 will have one. The importaint part is that the voice actor is good. For me it helps me become part of the game. Playing a quiet character that never say anything ruins it more for me then help. Sure, some games it can be good not to have a VO but for me, DA is bether with a VO. In DA:O the Warden just stod there looking dumb during the talks and it just ruined a lot of scenes. Sometimes when there was an serius scene it got ruined with his blank brainless stare.

[Reidbynature]

I think VO works better for Dragon Age. The Warden just had a bunch of forgettable dialogue choices and never really felt like he/she was more than an empty shell and didn't really emote for the most part. Skyrim is a step down from even that. Your character hardly matters in that game. DA tells a different kind of story and one of the few things I appreciated from DA2 was a voiced protagonist.

Modifié par Reidbynature, 30 janvier 2013 - 10:38 .