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[PaulSX]

Sakanade wrote...

I heard the movie was less than mediocre.
Even the people at the Dragon Age wiki thought the entire movie was an abomination that should never have been made.

it's based on video game and from a company who never made a standalone animated movie before. people should not have high expectation.

I would say Dawn of Seeker overall is a decent product. I would rate it just behind Street Fighter II animated movie. (I am talking about animated movies based on video game only)

[Jessihatt]

I was pleasantly surprised.
Not a block buster but enjoyable.

[Hayllee]

Can't watch it for free*. Not going to watch it. I'll read the summary on the wiki sometime, though. I unfortunately have to do the same thing with the books though.

*continues eating ramen noodles*

(*No, I'm NOT saying it should be free.)

[Raven Kesrar]

I saw the movie, I think it was cool, I really liked Cassandra’s story, I hope she does get a bigger role in Dragon Age 3

[ChaosAgentLoki]

berelinde wrote...

Kazanth wrote...

I had low expectations and managed to enjoy it. It could've been a lot worse.

That was my experience, as well. It isn't something I'll watch over and over, but I've done less enjoyable things for 90 minutes.

I guess it's important to keep your expectations low going into it. Consider the genre. If you go in expecting epic drama, you're going to be disappointed. If you go in expecting to be reasonably entertained by something fluffy, you should be fine.

Anime can have epic drama. Unless only westerners can write epic drama? If so, man the elitism here is ridiculous...

As to the film. I enjoyed it. It was a worthwhile purchase and watch. While not as good as Tales of Vesperia: First Strike or many of the other anime based off of games, it was a great addition to its respective series and not something that I regret watching at all. It was fun and enjoyable and added some more to Cassandra's character. I recommend watching it, but that's just me.

[Demx]

1. Anime is a medium not genre. The genre here would be fantasy or adventure
2. This was written by Jeffrey Scott in 2010. He wrote scripts for Dragon Tales, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The Governator, Shelldon
3. Fumihiko Sori is responsible for the artistic and dramatic aspects of the film

So blame can be shared on both sides of the world. After all, there were people from Japan thought this was made by Hollywood but simply outsourced.

[MerchantGOL]

I liked it, Cassandra was cool, and the plot proved anders dead wrong

[cJohnOne]

I really enjoyed it. The animations were good when they seemed realistic. Some of the events seemed improbable but I still enjoyed it.

[Bizantura]

Was actually positive surprised by the animation movie. Very generic story but enjoyable. Hope Cassandra story will not be in DA3, she is not that interesting.

[obZen DF]

I actually enjoyed the movie.
Of course there are a few things that are silly/stupid/badly done. One example is the voice acting.
Other things:
- Almost all the time when Galion talks, he's moving really weird.
- The Blood-Mages design was to much japanese/anime --> Doesn't fit in Dragon Age.
- And Blood-Mages with scythes?? Really stupid.

But I loved the way the Knight-Commander died. I loved the twist with the Pride Demon. And the part where the High Dragon flies toward the tower. That scene was great. And the end, when Cassandra gets that book from the Divine. Nice cliffhanger for DA2. (Even though we all played it already)

Oh, and I really like Cassandra now.

Modifié par obZen DF, 22 août 2012 - 09:38 .

[Sejborg]

 I had low expectation, but the quality of the movie was even lower! 

[Stronglav]

Monica83 wrote...

Arcane_Warrior_Revan wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

Why did they use this style that looks like cel shading animation? I bet someone felt really smart coming up with the idea to use it, but if you use an anime studio, for the love of god, let them DRAW the film.
Cel shading was used (as an example) by japanese rpgs to come as close as possible to anime animation. To actually use it in a movie in this way is just beyond me.

Oh and before someone complains: It LOOKS to me like cel shading. I don't know if they actually used it, but it sure looks like it.

I will stick to games trying to look like anime, thank you very much... games like Dragon Quest 8 and Tales of Symphonia... not japanese anime trying to look like japanese anime.

Yes, I noticed that too, and the fights look so exaggerated, I mean Cassandra cutting solid rock like butter?, killing dragons with a swiss knife? no, no thanks, but I think that's too much. If they make a game like that movie, I WON'T BUY IT.

I agree with you

Those stuff reminds me a teeneger show

Money.Money,money,money....
Must be funny in the rich man's world.

All I see is greed from Bioware lately.

[Chiramu]

Monica83 wrote...

Arcane_Warrior_Revan wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

Why did they use this style that looks like cel shading animation? I bet someone felt really smart coming up with the idea to use it, but if you use an anime studio, for the love of god, let them DRAW the film.
Cel shading was used (as an example) by japanese rpgs to come as close as possible to anime animation. To actually use it in a movie in this way is just beyond me.

Oh and before someone complains: It LOOKS to me like cel shading. I don't know if they actually used it, but it sure looks like it.

I will stick to games trying to look like anime, thank you very much... games like Dragon Quest 8 and Tales of Symphonia... not japanese anime trying to look like japanese anime.

Yes, I noticed that too, and the fights look so exaggerated, I mean Cassandra cutting solid rock like butter?, killing dragons with a swiss knife? no, no thanks, but I think that's too much. If they make a game like that movie, I WON'T BUY IT.

I agree with you

Those stuff reminds me a teeneger show

More like this is the sort of stuff that you think is cool when you're a "hip" emo kid in High school . 

[MerchantGOL]

Cheburator987 wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

Arcane_Warrior_Revan wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

Why did they use this style that looks like cel shading animation? I bet someone felt really smart coming up with the idea to use it, but if you use an anime studio, for the love of god, let them DRAW the film.
Cel shading was used (as an example) by japanese rpgs to come as close as possible to anime animation. To actually use it in a movie in this way is just beyond me.

Oh and before someone complains: It LOOKS to me like cel shading. I don't know if they actually used it, but it sure looks like it.

I will stick to games trying to look like anime, thank you very much... games like Dragon Quest 8 and Tales of Symphonia... not japanese anime trying to look like japanese anime.

Yes, I noticed that too, and the fights look so exaggerated, I mean Cassandra cutting solid rock like butter?, killing dragons with a swiss knife? no, no thanks, but I think that's too much. If they make a game like that movie, I WON'T BUY IT.

I agree with you

Those stuff reminds me a teeneger show

Money.Money,money,money....
Must be funny in the rich man's world.

All I see is greed from Bioware lately.

gasp a company wants to make money? what madness is this!

[Stronglav]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Cheburator987 wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

Arcane_Warrior_Revan wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

Why did they use this style that looks like cel shading animation? I bet someone felt really smart coming up with the idea to use it, but if you use an anime studio, for the love of god, let them DRAW the film.
Cel shading was used (as an example) by japanese rpgs to come as close as possible to anime animation. To actually use it in a movie in this way is just beyond me.

Oh and before someone complains: It LOOKS to me like cel shading. I don't know if they actually used it, but it sure looks like it.

I will stick to games trying to look like anime, thank you very much... games like Dragon Quest 8 and Tales of Symphonia... not japanese anime trying to look like japanese anime.

Yes, I noticed that too, and the fights look so exaggerated, I mean Cassandra cutting solid rock like butter?, killing dragons with a swiss knife? no, no thanks, but I think that's too much. If they make a game like that movie, I WON'T BUY IT.

I agree with you

Those stuff reminds me a teeneger show

Money.Money,money,money....
Must be funny in the rich man's world.

All I see is greed from Bioware lately.

gasp a company wants to make money? what madness is this!

May be there is a difference between making money and making money from lies to the fans.

[Foolsfolly]

For my own enjoyment more than anything here was what I said in a similar thread earlier today about this movie:

I saw this movie today.

It's single greatest flaw, something that it can never come back from, is.... it's boring. It's dull. Cassandra hates mages because, like Meredith, mage's killed her family! Ok, that's an uninspired choice for forced melodrama.

So Cassandra's angry and that's her entire personality. She has no sense of humor or gives anything any forethought. She's just angry. To off set this they get a guy who has one line worth a damn to play Dragon Age Leading Man (Alistair, Anders, ..Varric?) but unlike those before him this guy gets no chance to be awesome and no chance to give you belly laughs.

I guess he's not bad looking. Neither is Cassandra who went from really angry fascist lady to 22 year old Kim Kardashian. Not complaining too much about that but there you go.

Over the course of the seemingly never ending run time Angry Cass turns into "Wow I learned that people don't adhere to stereotypes and I like mages now" Cass. And being an anime lines like that are actually said because subtle and nuanced dialogue just cannot survive the translation process.

The Dragon flight animation was weird too. It looked like they were swimming underwater more than actually flying. Weird.

The story's also over compensating for the DA2 plot where every mage got colored "EVIL CRAZY" and so the anime goes far out of its way to show that Templars, Seekers, Revered Mothers, and mages can all be good guys and bad guys. What all that did however was flood the run time with so many characters that they all ended up being paper thin.

The Divine is good... because she's a target for the evil Mother. The Evil Mother is clearly the evil Mother because the voice actress has to act like she's in a high school recital of Snow White. The evil Templar also happens to sound so over-the-top evil that you may as well have him wear a neon sign screaming "I'm a traitor."

And none of them get any depth. The closest reasoning any of them get is the Mother who wants to be Divine. A job so desired because we're told its desirable.

A special mention must be made for how stale and barren Orlais looks. Despite all the talk of shoes, silks, crazy hair with birds in them, and the wonderful and diverse sights and sounds of Val Rouxeou (or however you spell it) it kinda turned out to be a bit of woods, a quarry, and a large slate plaza devoid of color or fashion.

There was so much granite and lifelessness that I thought they perfectly nailed Tevinter... if only this were Tevinter. We didn't even get to see the Chevaliers or touch on anything remotely Orlisian like the bard's game and all the spies and intrigue. The plot tried intrigue as much as it could but I doubt intrigue works when your crazy complex plan involves mind controlling ogres, golems, and dragons by the scores.

That's a bit too blunt for proper intrigue.

Of course being a single movie it could only take one aspect of Orlais and handle it well. The fault here is that it picked up that damn Templar/Mage story which has yet to be interesting. Largely because the villains to these stories remain uninteresting and paper thin "I'm Meredith and I'm idol crazy!" "I'm Orsino and I'm a blood mage abomination!" "I'm whoever this movie's Mother is and I've never heard of poison so here's a bunch of dragons and at least a hundred co-conspirators that will likely ruin my complex plan to kill like 4 people."

And these mage/templar stories fail because there's no real answer to the question poised. "Which is better: personal freedom to those with crazy power or protect the majority from the threat that a handful of super powerful people may pose."

It's a legitimate question and something worth looking into. And it's so much that there's no villain in that argument as far as the problem is that's two really polarizing extremes and of course there has to be a middle ground. But no one looks for that middle ground because OH MY GOD BIG DRAGON FIGHT or HARVESTER and then CRAZY STATUES AND ANIME fight!

Which is why the mage/templar argument worked so well in Origins. Not only were there people who looked, sought, and upkept the middle ground (Wynne, the Knight Commander, and even the First Enchanter was smart enough to pick his battles and play politics with the lives under him to keep the Circle running) but it wasn't the sole focus of the story.

But worst of all the story never asked anything of Cassandra. She's an angry girl who runs headlong into battle time and again. Sometimes she's swatted away like a fly or nearly killed but sometimes she just plain slaughters her enemies in a ridiculously quick fashion. She never learns to alter her fighting style. Nor does the story really force her to change meaningfully. The token "I learned not all mages are evil" lesson is forced because of how cliche and easy it is.

Oh your family were slain by mages? That justifies her hatred of mages. It couldn't be based on a personal view? It had to be the result of trauma? Cliched drama? She couldn't just believe one thing and then question that belief?

But Rise of the Seeker isn't the type of movie that's meant to be thought provoking. At its core its about a CG chick wearing no pants kicking asses and cleaving golem's legs apart with an impossibly sharp blade (why don't they make armor out of the same metal they use to make swords?). And if that's all you want from an anime movie based on Dragon Age, huzzah.

If you wanted something you'd enjoy as a movie... there's nothing to see here. Besides I imagine Cassandra will be handled better when she's a companion in DA3. And this 'origin' for her will likely be retconned into something better or summarized to sound cooler.

If there's another DA movie perhaps it should be made in-house. You guys have the talent and you respect the material a bit more than some other studio would.

[Rawgrim]

I hated the artstyle, and I couldn`t avoid cringing every time that damn anime hero jumped around. I am glad Bioware wasn`t involved with this.