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[dragonflight288]

But the darkspawn are pretty mindless. They are probably just digging everywhere, and maybe even spend decades digging in the wrong direction. The architect was born weird, being unable to hear the Old Gods, and his Awakened darkspawn either go mad like the mother, or are very intelligent, and can control over darkspawn. Then there's the fact they're constantly attacking Orzammar and the Dwarves keep trying to retake thaigs.

It's not like the darkspawn know where to dig and don't have other problems.

[areuexperienced]

But don't the darkspawn hear the call of the Old Gods and actively seek them out?

[unreadierLizard]

I would assume that the call of the Old Gods that the Darkspawn hear would at least point them in the general direction.

[Jerrybnsn]

Silfren wrote...

iakus wrote...

areuexperienced wrote...

A nice take on things, guys, basically what I've been thinking as well. It just seems too simple to just kill off the last Old God and be done with it, that way, I'd think, Grey Wardens'd be actively seeking out to slay them in order to prevent future Blights, which also begs the question why they don't, or maybe they do but I'm mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I haven't been able to read The Silent Grove past issue one, I guess I'm missing out on some of the story .

The Wardens probably don't have a clue where they are.  And since the darkspawn are drawn to them, there would likely be a lot of them in teh way.

Otherwise the Grey Wardens may indeed try.

Wrong.  Per The Calling, the Grey Wardens know EXACTLY where the Old Gods are.  

And so does/did the Architect.  He's trying to do a Mass Effect "Green" option of blending in all races and darkspawn.  Ewwwww

What I'd like to know is if the Grey Wardens knew where all the old gods where then why didn't they try the theory of killing them off themselves before they had a chance to become tainted; and thus prevent future blights?   Something about them they couldn't kill while still imprisoned/hibernating.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 21 juin 2012 - 02:58 .

[dragonflight288]

Probably because their numbers are too few to launch a direct assault against them and fend off the darkspawn in the deep roads at the same time. That or for political reasons with the First Warden or everyone being suspicious of them.

[Silfren]

iakus wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Wrong.  Per The Calling, the Grey Wardens know EXACTLY where the Old Gods are.  

Well, I haven't read the Calling.  Or any of the novels.  Nor am I certain how "canon" they are.

But if that's true, then okay, the Wardens know where the Old Gods are.  And I don't know why they don't slay them.

I would imagine that knowing where they are is one thing.  Having the means to actually GET to them is quite another matter entirely.  Just because you know where something is doesn't mean you have the means to get to it.  It would require substantial resources.  Digging requires people, and that requires food, water, etc.  And this is without the fact that a sea of darkspawn would be in the way. 

I think it's safe to say the books are canon.  Why on Earth wouldn't they be, after all--the lead writer of the games is the same guy writing the books, and what he writes is in direct relationship to the game stories, not just unrelated material set within the same universe--why would he write prequels and sequels to the games that were uncanonical? The Stolen Throne sets the stage for the backstory of the rebellion that ousted the Orlesian invaders from Ferelden, and gives us the "origin" stories of Loghain and Maric, whereas The Calling gives some background info on the events that led to the Fifth Blight itself, in particular focusing on the Architect from DA:Awakening, and finally, Asunder is a direct sequel to the events of DA2, presumably as a bridge filler between DA2 and DA3. 

Of course there are contradictions between the books and the games, but there's a lot of self-contradicting lore smack within the games, too.  

[Silfren]

dragonflight288 wrote...

But the darkspawn are pretty mindless. They are probably just digging everywhere, and maybe even spend decades digging in the wrong direction. The architect was born weird, being unable to hear the Old Gods, and his Awakened darkspawn either go mad like the mother, or are very intelligent, and can control over darkspawn. Then there's the fact they're constantly attacking Orzammar and the Dwarves keep trying to retake thaigs.

It's not like the darkspawn know where to dig and don't have other problems.

No, they're not just digging everywhere.  They hear the Call of the Old God (constantly referred to as the song), and they follow it instinctively.  Closest analogy that comes to mind are baby turtles following light.  They do take hundreds of years to dig their way to an Old God, apparently, which would imply that the dragons are buried a great many leagues apart from one another, but they aren't just digging mindlessly.

I'm of the mind that the Architect wasn't born in the usual way, via a broodmother, but possibly is one of the original Magisters, who has no memory of ever not being a darkspawn. That's the best explanation, I think, for why he is Awakened, even though he had no one (so far as is known) to wake him up.  Never minding that I'm more than a little disappointed by the revelations provided in DA2:Legacy. 

[Blacklash93]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
So while the Blights might end, there may be no more archdemons, the remaining darkspawn would theoretically become aware en masse.

And some Darkspawn and ghoul-kin will most likely become insane, genocidal maniacs like The Mother. The Architect has said that some respond "poorly" to being deprived of the calling.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 juin 2012 - 03:18 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
So while the Blights might end, there may be no more archdemons, the remaining darkspawn would theoretically become aware en masse.

And some Darkspawn and ghoul-kin will most likely become insane, genocidal maniacs like The Mother. The Architect has said that some respond "poorly" to being deprived of the calling.

One reason why I didn't say a mass awakening was necessarily a good thing.

The other reason is mainly this: ending the Blights isn't the same thing as ending of the Taint.

[DarkDragon777]

I'm going to go with my instincts and say that there are a good 2 Blights left.

[dragonflight288]

And my instinct as a dwarf says that during blights is when its time for Orzammar's vacation. lol. Less darkspawn attacking them then.