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[mass perfection]

Because they like an unfinished game.

[D24O]

People attack IT because they want to start a fight with the fanatics who make it look bad. That and trolling can be fun!

[garrusfan1]

ENOUGH no one should insult anyone for having different ideas alright whether it's an IT discussion or anything else can we all just have a civilized discussion

[NM_Che56]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Senenzon wrote...

Master Che wrote...

small minds use small words when they don't understand big concepts.

This^^

It sure is easier to complain about biowares writers for making a ****ty ending, than use a lil bit of braincapacity to see whats in the game.<_<

We see what's in the game we just don't find it convincing of the theory since there are more likely explinations.
Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by incompetence.

Also I thought the point of this thread was that you were victims and we were the ones who were calling you stupid not the other way around

The ones who call ITers stupid, etc have small minds.  If you don't agree with IT but can maintain civility during debates, then this does not apply.

[Barsomo92]

jijeebo wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Barsomo92 wrote...

My point is that if someone that work for Bioware likes the indoctrination theory and want us to continue to talk about it. Then people shouldn't call us stupid or delusional.

Why not get the people who share your belief in IT to stop insulting non-ITers before telling the people they're insulting to not insult them back?


I don't condone it from either side, but the opinion of a mod doesn't suddenly mean that ITers can go around acting like their interpretation is the be all and end all, insulting people as they go... And not expect any flack in return.


Double standards and all that.

Can't help that, you are effectively telling me not to insult Ieldra2 for the ascension thread, it is how it works in these forum, well, this forum more specifically, and also depending what u call insult

I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

I have not seen a thread that begins with: People are stupid for not believing in the indoctrination theory  or something like that.

[NM_Che56]

garrusfan1 wrote...

ENOUGH no one should insult anyone for having different ideas alright whether it's an IT discussion or anything else can we all just have a civilized discussion

...too soon?

[jijeebo]

garrusfan1 wrote...

ENOUGH no one should insult anyone for having different ideas alright whether it's an IT discussion or anything else can we all just have a civilized discussion

Civilised... Discussion? HOW DARE YOU!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!1!

[Vigilant111]

jijeebo wrote...

I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

Well, just leave those IT threads alone then if you think its too rough, I mean I am not a big IT proponent either, so I don't go to their threads and nothing happened, and I haven't seen IT believers actively "insulted" me or anything

[NM_Che56]

I just don't get why non-ITers have to invade IT threads. You don't support IT, fine. We don't need to know who you are. In the grand scheme of things, you are not important.

[jijeebo]

Vigilant111 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

Well, just leave those IT threads alone then if you think its too rough, I mean I am not a big IT proponent either, so I don't go to their threads and nothing happened, and I haven't seen IT believers actively "insulted" me or anything

I never said it was "too rough", I just said if ITers are going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them then they might want to try the same approach.


EDIT: I should mention that I visit IT threads because sometimes it leads to fun debates... And I'm always curious if the next piece of "evidence" is going to be the one that makes me warm to the idea.

Modifié par jijeebo, 18 juin 2012 - 03:55 .

[jijeebo]

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...


I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

I have not seen a thread that begins with: People are stupid for not believing in the indoctrination theory  or something like that.

There are plenty of ways to insult people without making troll threads.

[garrusfan1]

Master Che wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

ENOUGH no one should insult anyone for having different ideas alright whether it's an IT discussion or anything else can we all just have a civilized discussion

...too soon?

What

[FAButzke]

The main problem with IT is that, if it is true, then the last 20 minutes did not happen and we don't have an ending. What's worse? The ending we've got or to have to pay for another one.
Yes. Pay. Because Bioware said that EC IS NOT going to have 'gameplay'. So. If the IT is true, then: Either the ending is going to be 'automated' from the point where Shepard 'wakes up' onward. Or, we still won't have an 'ending' and we're going to pay later for one where you actually get to play.

I don't believe OR support IT. All I know is that because all this whining we have no further singleplayer DLC (that actually expand the game) yet. Deny it all you want. That's the truth.

[Barsomo92]

jijeebo wrote...

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...


I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

I have not seen a thread that begins with: People are stupid for not believing in the indoctrination theory  or something like that.

There are plenty of ways to insult people without making troll threads.

Anti-IT people begin to make troll treads and insult us. It is not the pro-IT who makes the troll thread. Maybe if they didn't make troll treads Pro-IT wouldn't insult back. Because you get angry when people say you are stupid and delusional that's what starts the fight.

[jijeebo]

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...


I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

I have not seen a thread that begins with: People are stupid for not believing in the indoctrination theory  or something like that.

There are plenty of ways to insult people without making troll threads.

Anti-IT people begin to make troll treads and insult us. It is not the pro-IT who makes the troll thread. Maybe if they didn't make troll treads Pro-IT wouldn't insult back. Because you get angry when people say you are stupid and delusional that's what starts the fight.

Um, no.

These insults have been happening for a good 3 months now. The anti-IT troll threads are a result of this, not the cause of it.


They only serve to exacerbate the situation, but it was an issue long before trolls realised that it was a good topic to generate aggro and get people worked up.

[Slayer299]

Senenzon wrote...

Master Che wrote...

small minds use small words when they don't understand big concepts.

This^^

It sure is easier to complain about biowares writers for making a ****ty ending, than use a lil bit of braincapacity to see whats in the game.<_<

Wow, didn't take long for pro-IT people to start insulting everyone as morons,

Way to prove my point! 

[Silhouett3]

Why not start policing against those foul mouthed ?

Why not start policing against those who troll threads ?

Why not start policing against those who tell people what to and what not to discuss ?

[Slayer299]

Master Che wrote...

I just don't get why non-ITers have to invade IT threads. You don't support IT, fine. We don't need to know who you are. In the grand scheme of things, you are not important.

That would include you as well, not just non-IT people.

And people go to opposition threads to state their opinion on something they feel strongly on, whether it is needed or not is another matter.

[PlumPaul93]

Because they are?

[phat0817]

I don't think your stupid that's just immature people who write things like that...I like the indoc theory but its as far as I'm concern its a great piece of fictional work...the people who came up with it should take of bow because I don't believe Bioware could come up with such a great idea.

Modifié par phat0817, 18 juin 2012 - 04:26 .

[LucasShark]

Barsomo92 wrote...

But we don't make threads that say you are a moron for not believing in the Indoctrination Theory.

I've seen one with that precise title actually... so IT believers are hardly blameless.

[NM_Che56]

Slayer299 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

I just don't get why non-ITers have to invade IT threads. You don't support IT, fine. We don't need to know who you are. In the grand scheme of things, you are not important.

That would include you as well, not just non-IT people.

And people go to opposition threads to state their opinion on something they feel strongly on, whether it is needed or not is another matter.

I've never called a non-ITer a moron because they didn't believe it could be true.

I don't mind logical debate.  But when someone rips into an IT thread with memes and comments about tin foil hats and straws...

Modifié par Master Che, 18 juin 2012 - 04:30 .

[NM_Che56]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

ENOUGH no one should insult anyone for having different ideas alright whether it's an IT discussion or anything else can we all just have a civilized discussion

...too soon?

What

You're either not from the U.S. or you're too young to remember.

[SauliusL]

jijeebo wrote...

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Barsomo92 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...


I'm asking ITers to stop insulting non-ITers if they're going to tell non-ITers to stop insulting them because it's a double standard.

I've barely been on that Synthesis thread because it doesn't interest me, so I can't comment on how Ieldra2 conducts him/herself... But I don't see how indirectly asking you not to insult that user is a big deal regardlessl.

I have not seen a thread that begins with: People are stupid for not believing in the indoctrination theory  or something like that.

There are plenty of ways to insult people without making troll threads.

Anti-IT people begin to make troll treads and insult us. It is not the pro-IT who makes the troll thread. Maybe if they didn't make troll treads Pro-IT wouldn't insult back. Because you get angry when people say you are stupid and delusional that's what starts the fight.

Um, no.

These insults have been happening for a good 3 months now. The anti-IT troll threads are a result of this, not the cause of it.


They only serve to exacerbate the situation, but it was an issue long before trolls realised that it was a good topic to generate aggro and get people worked up.

Maybe in this forum yes, I don't know. But I had some rough discussions and insults towards me from anti ITers just a couple of days after release of ME3 on their official facebook.

[SauliusL]

FAButzke wrote...

The main problem with IT is that, if it is true, then the last 20 minutes did not happen and we don't have an ending. What's worse? The ending we've got or to have to pay for another one.
Yes. Pay. Because Bioware said that EC IS NOT going to have 'gameplay'. So. If the IT is true, then: Either the ending is going to be 'automated' from the point where Shepard 'wakes up' onward. Or, we still won't have an 'ending' and we're going to pay later for one where you actually get to play.

I don't believe OR support IT. All I know is that because all this whining we have no further singleplayer DLC (that actually expand the game) yet. Deny it all you want. That's the truth.

This is the perfect example of anti ITer, who flames these kind of discussions. I have met here only couple anti ITers who really know things they discuss about IT. But this one is with false information, false understanding, outdated details etc etc. And they keep coming, no matter how much pro ITers try to explain what the theory is about, and not what you read somewhere couple months ago.