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[tetsutsuru]

Gockey wrote...

Do you seriously need reading comprehension lessons?  I clearly addressed your post and then dismissed it for the drivel that it was.  

I know you clearly have nothing more important to do then attack others.  Please your embarrasing yourself.

You're the one who misconstrued the OP.  You're the one in the wrong, as pointed out by a few other posters in this very thread AND the OP himself.  And I'm the one who "needs reading comprehension lessons"?  And I'm the one embarrasing myself?

Geeeeezzzzz....

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 18 juin 2012 - 09:22 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Please stop you two, your bungling up the thread and both embarrassing yourselves.

[Adhok42]

Kloreep wrote...

Yay for supporting Gethgineers. One of the funnest parts of playing them is seeing the crazy bleep other players will do once they are confident the turret will be there for them, like Vanguards who obviously haven't specced half blast nevertheless doing two Novas in a row.

Then the turret suddenly vanished only to appear elsewhere because I needed the firesupport more then he needed shields.

LULZ! LULZ EVERYWHERE!!!!

[tetsutsuru]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Please stop you two, your bungling up the thread and both embarrassing yourselves.

Copy that.  And I'm sorry.

[Sable Dove]

Most effective? Definitely any of the Infiltrators. On top of being the best class for half the objectives, they also have astounding burst-damage and as long as you have teammates alive, you can gleefully dump your aggro on them. I certainly don't have that much fun with them though. Not as much as with my Phoenix Adept.

classes like the Vorcha's are a ton of fun. On silver. The problem is that in order to get credits, we have to play Gold, since it gives more than twice as much for only slightly more time. This means that we're stuck playing only a handful of classes because so many are simply too ineffective to be fun in Gold.

The two classes I play most would be the Phoenix Adept and Warpwave Human Adept. They're the most fun I have while still being decent on Gold. If I want to have an easy time, I play an Infiltrator every now and then.

Soldiers are still largely underpowered, Engineers I find pretty boring, for the most part, and Sentinels I usually use to test out weapons with max DR so I can be more aggressive in testing.

Vanguards are basically useless if you're not host. I rarely ever play them. I'd play them a lot more if they were usable off-host; they are a lot of fun.

Modifié par Sable Dove, 18 juin 2012 - 09:25 .

[BrotherCorvid]

I can be tactically minded and play all of the classes well, but I tend to get exhausted from that.  Sometimes it's easier and more fun to simply solve problems with brute force and violence.

Thus, for both effectiveness and hilarious funtimes, I tend to hop on my human vanguards, switch off my survival instinct, and let my desire to maim take over.  I stick a Carnifex X on them, as the game has decided that I must carry a weapon, though my preference for a vanguard would be some kind of two-handed future-sword/future-battleaxe/future-warhammer. I do occasionally use the Carnifex to shoot at things, but that usually only comes after charging/punching/nova-ing/lashing/smashing has left them with a shred of life.

For me, there's a tough toss-up between charging and nova-ing/punching things to death, or lashing a thing into the air, only to lash it back down into the ground while smashing the guy who was creeping up on me.  Not sure which I like more.

But the human vanguards, both normal and Cerberus varieties, are easily my most hilarious and effective of classes.  I play a mean infiltrator for sure, but my fury drives me to fantastic feats when I'm at the vanguard.

Modifié par RobotWalk, 18 juin 2012 - 09:52 .

[Gockey]

tetsutsuru wrote...
You're the one who misconstrued the OP.  You're the one in the wrong, as pointed out by a few other posters in this very thread AND the OP himself.  And I'm the one who "needs reading comprehension lessons"?  And I'm the one embarrasing myself?

Geeeeezzzzz....

Nice try.

*Yawn*  The OP is the one who poorly phrased his question making this thread what it is.  He chose to clarify it on page 10 and I responded accordingly.  

Your the hypocrite that started this whole mess.  I admitted freely to my replies as I answered the question the way it was written.   You chose out of the blue to play keyboard warrior and attack me. 

Grow up.  You wanted to troll and I replied to you.  You've added not one constructive remark to this thread and embarrassed yourself enormously.  It's been very entertaining.

tetsutsuru wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Please stop you two, your bungling up the thread and both embarrassing yourselves.

Copy that.  And I'm sorry. 

 

Eh if he's done I am.  I didn't start that whole spiel anyways.

Modifié par Gockey, 18 juin 2012 - 09:27 .

[DragonRacer]

Posting again after the clarification.

My most effective character/class as far as ensuring the team completes all objectives and gets full extraction is, again, my Turian Sentinel. Most effective, most comfortable, favorite guy, hands down. I can strip shields and barriers with Overload. I can either prime or detonate biotic explosions (in concert with a biotic partner) using my Warp. And with my full health/shields spec and extra tech armor, I can tank and take extra damage while running to revive a teammate in a bad situation or capping the four objectives (if there is either no infiltrator in the group or a clueless infiltrator in the group).

Playing him, I don't generally top the Bronze and Silver scoreboards unless I end up with a really, really sub-par group. But I almost always extract with him.

[tetsutsuru]

Sable Dove wrote...

Vanguards are basically useless if you're not host. I rarely ever play them. I'd play them a lot more if they were usable off-host; they are a lot of fun.

Sad truth there.

I'd love to see more Vanguards in Gold.  Specifically, more than just 1 Vanguard in a match, and actually Charging.  Just imagine a Biotic Explosion party of 2 Novaguards and 2 Adepts....

[Shampoohorn]

Derek Hollan wrote...

Adhok42 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

I came from a support role in the military...I provided tactical meteorology for combat units.  That made my role extremely important to them and in turn made me an an effective part of the team.  It wasn't that I wasn't required to fight.  I had to carry a rifle as well.  But again, I stress, I was more effective giving the team the necessary data they needed tactically.

Cheers

That may have been a heavy support role with little to no fighting but I **** you not, you were like GOD to us pilots because the data you fed us determined if we flew or not.

...snip...

I have no problem playing support to others. I've been support and I've seen the power it wields. You can get the kill if you want and flex your muscles proclaming you are baddest thing since Muhammed Ali but I know who really made it possible for you to even live as long as you did. And you can't see them.

Haha, thanks for the encouragement.

Cheers

Support roles IRL are huge.  All the same, thanks for not making a video game about meteorological combat support. 

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 18 juin 2012 - 09:32 .

[zapphoman24]

Krogan Sentinal

Tech Armor-6
Incinerate-0
The rest -6

Cerberus Harrier with the AP and SA mods.
N7 Crusader with SA and EB mods.

With a focus on health and Shields, he can take three Geth Prime blasts and still have some shields left. He has the Harrier and Grenades for long range and the Crusader and Melee for close quarters. Definitely my most effective class. It's also fun to throw enemies around.

EDIT: He also wears pink:D

Modifié par zapphoman24, 18 juin 2012 - 09:54 .

[Derek Hollan]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

Adhok42 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

I came from a support role in the military...I provided tactical meteorology for combat units.  That made my role extremely important to them and in turn made me an an effective part of the team.  It wasn't that I wasn't required to fight.  I had to carry a rifle as well.  But again, I stress, I was more effective giving the team the necessary data they needed tactically.

Cheers

That may have been a heavy support role with little to no fighting but I **** you not, you were like GOD to us pilots because the data you fed us determined if we flew or not.

...snip...

I have no problem playing support to others. I've been support and I've seen the power it wields. You can get the kill if you want and flex your muscles proclaming you are baddest thing since Muhammed Ali but I know who really made it possible for you to even live as long as you did. And you can't see them.

Haha, thanks for the encouragement.

Cheers

Support roles IRL are huge.  All the same, thanks for not making a video game about meteorological combat support. 

That would quickly turn into a golf game or barbeque simulator

[Yajuu Omoi]

I most enjoy using my Krogan Sentinel, spec'd for weapon damage, DR, and full grenades, no Incinerate at all. Equipped with a Black Widow and Claymore. Doesn't always perform the best...but it is the set-up i have THE MOST fun with.

[Cyonan]

Derek Hollan wrote...

That would quickly turn into a golf game or barbeque simulator

Somebody needs to get on that.

Mass Effect: Barbeque edition. Would be the best game ever =P

[tetsutsuru]

Cyonan wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

That would quickly turn into a golf game or barbeque simulator

Somebody needs to get on that.

Mass Effect: Barbeque edition. Would be the best game ever =P

You know, if along with that game was an optional USB peripheral that eminated the aroma of barbeque on a grill, I'd most likely buy that too.

[Malditor]

tetsutsuru wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

That would quickly turn into a golf game or barbeque simulator

Somebody needs to get on that.

Mass Effect: Barbeque edition. Would be the best game ever =P

You know, if along with that game was an optional USB peripheral that eminated the aroma of barbeque on a grill, I'd most likely buy that too.

Talk about to contributing to the obesity problem rofl, can you imagine? How could you not get hungry with those smells?

[sliverofamoon]

My favorite character is my FQE, but I don't bring her past silver unless I'm with friends who are also playing a tech. class. In PUG's I'll only play her if there is someone with Overload or ED in the party. And I just love using my Evisc. X with her... can't WAIT to get my Wraith levelled up.... might take me a couple of years with all the CC's I get out of the PSP's, but for now it's fun in Bronze or Silver.

I also love my AJ! Fun stuff! Or my AA when a friend is playing an AJ. I just don't play either much in PUG's because I'm not sure if they are going to be head-shotters, or exploders.

I have also taken to a 6/3/6/5/6 AJ with my Eviscerator lately, but of course, only when I do the hosting because of grenade boxes, and the Charge bug. Same thing with my human female nova-guard, which is the first class I solo'ed Bronze with... yah, yah, I know, it's only Bronze, but it was a HELL of an accomplishment for me.

Soldier wise, I love the Vorcha! LOVE IT!

Sentinel's... the ONLY one I play is the Krogan, and headbutt EVERYTHING!

I love the HI with her Claymore... the Wraith still just lacks enough punch, and just the over-all sound of the Claymore at work is just ooooh so nice!!! and my QI with the BW, but I seem to do better with the Widow than my BW III. I don't rush shots as much and miss headshots when I know every shot has to count. For some reason I do better that way.

And that's about all I play, really, unless some friends and I do a round with our "Worst class EVER!" For that, I roll out my female human soldier.

Edit: Yah... I babbled a bit, so I made sure it was clear what my favorite character to play is. She is also the only other character I have been able to solo Bronze with. My AJ  comes in close, at having made it to the wave 10 objective, and any of my Infiltrators can't make it past wave 8.... health and shields seem to fail me the most, and lack of recharge while cloaked is what gets me killed every single time since every enemy near you can see you and shoot you. And by solo'ing, I mean that I do it using no medigels, ammo packs, health packs, or missles. The first time I solo'ed with my female novaguard, I did using every single thing I had, but then I did a second run using nothing.

Modifié par sliverofamoon, 18 juin 2012 - 10:15 .

[BooPi]

I love the Quarian Female Infiltrator 4/6/6/6/4, spec'd to be a Claymore-blasting, backfiring, sticky nade throwing little whirlwind of doom.

There's just something so satisfying about disappearing, sneaking up to a high priority crowd, dropping 2 cloak-boosted nades, sabotaging for increased nade damage right before they go off, then blasting anything that's left with the Claymore . Just a sudden, brutal burst of overwhelming close-quarters firepower from out of nowhere; it's very empowering. If you can get away afterward, that's a nice bonus.

Phoenix Vanguard, though, is one of my new favorite toys. He's not nearly as effective at what he does, but I love that you can pick a spot on the map and decide "I'm going to cause a ruckus there." A few seconds later, everything in a 10 yard radius is getting thrown around like a rag doll. I love the idea of "disruption" as a role (basically knocking crowds of mooks over like bowling pins, even if you're not killing most of them) and the PV on bronze/silver comes close to scratching that particular itch. It's a shame he's not better at it on gold, though.

Modifié par BooPi, 18 juin 2012 - 10:00 .

[Sailears]

Effective and most entertaining? The six builds in my signature. Phoenix adept - still polishing it, still a bit shabby, so I wouldn't count that.

If I had to pick only three, I'd rank my effectiveness with them in the following order:
1 Drell adept
2 Quarian Female Infiltrator
3 Asari Vanguard

Modifié par Curunen, 18 juin 2012 - 09:56 .

[Colonel Sheppard]

Salarian Infiltrator with Hurricane. Extended barrel, heat sink, SMG III, Incineration or AP rounds, Adrenaline II.

Cloak, sprint, proxy mine, destroy, revive. This is the build I use to carry teams on gold. Ever since the weekend challenge to promote characters, there are now a lot of crappy players with rankings of 800 and below. If I'm not playing with people I know who are good from my friend list, I will not fully trust the team. This is the build I use for max aggression on gold (very little time spent in cover).

For small maps, I love playing Phoenix Adept with Reegar, Talon, Hurricane combos. Reegar and Talon if I rely on lash. Hurricane with ultralight for games where I intend to smash Banshees and Brutes.

For headshot games, pretty much any character with Valiant with piercing mod or Turian Soldier + Saber.

For max sniper practice, I go for SI or GI + Javelin.  I can dominate with Widow X or BW V, but both are poor substitues for the Javelin.  One shot guns are good for sniper practice, and the Javelin is strong enough to not frustrate me.  Widow X takes too long against big bosses on Gold, due to shield gate.  BW is like the Valiant.  They're good once you've master sniping.

So the first build is pretty much the god build, but I don't play this game to try and dominate every match. I play for fun and will chose the build for whatever mood I am in at the moment. I've been told by teammates who have watched me play with the first build and carry the team against the reapers on gold after they've fallen that my play is 'epic'... their words not mine. It's not the build out. I'm very situationally aware of what's going on, having spent so much game time on gold reviving people and going after objectives. Even on FWGG, I spend only 15-20% of the time in cover. I am pretty much a headshot maniac. I maximize every power for headshots. If you're using the hurricane, sniper, or shotgun and cannot do headshots, you're going to struggle regardless of build or guns. If you spend a lot of time as glass canons in cover, popping up to take pop shots, you will never fully develop situational awareness.

Modifié par Colonel Sheppard, 18 juin 2012 - 10:05 .

[CHAw]

Before I give my answer to this question, I would like to preface it with the following statement.

All of my character "builds" are based around a particular role-playing character persona, and then designed within the constraints of that character concept. In some cases, this means that I will choose power upgrades (e.g., melee damage bonus) or weapons (e.g., sniper rifle on a Sentinel) that may be a less optimal choice than my other available options. Essentially, my characters are always designed for "entertainment value" first, and gameplay effectiveness second.

That being the case, I find that I am probably most effective with a Turian Soldier built to lay down as many Proximity Mines (radius/damage vulnerability/cooldown) as possible. The passives are geared towards cooldown, power damage, and health/shields. On that character, I use a Revenant (mag upgrade/piercing mod) and a Geth Plasma SMG (ultralight/barrel), despite the fact that it'd be more effective with just a Hurricane. Or, for that matter, if it was a Salarian/Geth Infiltrator instead.

When I'm not in a kroganning mood, the character that I enjoy playing the most is probably my Human Engineer armed with a Hurricane (heat sink/barrel). It's very satisfying to execute both a Tech Burst and a Fire Explosion in rapid succession with a mere three power uses (and a few dozen bullets). I also like the Combat Drone power, especially when armed with the rocket-launcher upgrade.

However, Tech Bursts just aren't very effective in comparison to Proximity Mines (let alone Biotic Explosions or cloaked Krysae rounds). And while Fire Explosions might be superior in theory, in practice, the difficulty of setting up and detonating them (and the fact that the detonation requirement precludes it from damaging the primary target) means that they are usually more of a novelty than an effective tactic, at least for the Human Engineer. In addition, the Combat Drone has limited durability on Gold difficulty even when upgraded for maximum shields.

[Falgo666]

My strongest combo is Salarian infiltrator with Valiant 1 (TC rank 6 specced for 1 free power usage). The damage output combined with survivability of TC is insane and I usually top the scoreboard on gold with 100k+ (not on FBWGG, only noobs play that). I haven't encountered any combo with higher damage output.

But my very favourite class is Drell adept with Carnifex (currently lvl 5). It's just so much fun! I'm specced for pull/cluster/reave all lvl 6 and the damage output can be also quite insane. But compared to salarian infiltrator I need to work really hard to keep up with the DPS.

Recently I had most fun with Phoenix vanguard specced for melee damage (asari melee attack pales with comparison to phoenix melee) and lash/charge lvl 6. It plays very differently to all the other classes and it's just super fun. But also very challenging because one mistake usually means good game for me (even more so when I glitch out again, sigh).

[NYG1991]

Flame spec fem quarian engineer w/ hurricane SMG.

Toss a flame turret,watch em burn and panic, then spam incinerate and unload a clip into them.

I'll sometimes use incendiary ammo too for explosions. Works great against reapers. Pretty good against Cerberus. Only drawback is the geth but they suck anyway.

[Taritu]

Effective? Shotgun infi (human female, most of the time, I like being able to roll), I can turn the tide, I had a game where I did over 20 resses just a couple days ago. I can flank, do objectives, and do lots of damage as well.

Krogan Vanguard. I can keep the squishies alive, as long as they understand they need to kill the boss units (unless Geth, in which case I can do it all).

Biotic as part of a biotic team. BOOM!

Fun? I'm really good with the AV, charging not stasis sniping, and if I'm on a roll, I can even play really aggressively on gold and stay alive, especially as part of a biotic team. It's not the most effective class for me due to its limitations and my insistence on charging with a characters whose shields are, umm, not up to par, but it is probably my favorite to play. I won't usually bring it out till I'm confident in my team-mates though (not on gold, on silver I can do fine even if my team-mates are less than cooperative).

I also enjoy playing Turians with the Revanant, And human soldier concussion shot spamming, which is surprisingly effective even on Gold, despite claims otherwise.

[Achire]

I really like the human vanguard, and I've played mostly that since release. Almost good enough to solo Gold now (wave 10, failed carry objective). I would use a Wraith or Talon if I had those at a high level, but for now I'm stuck with Paladin VII. I would consider novaguard to be a support class: very good at tanking, low dps (for Gold), excellent detonator for biotic explosions (or tech bursts). It's not a top tier class, but it's still pretty good for Gold if you host. Just a lot steeper learning curve from Silver to Gold than most other classes.

To be really effective you need a biotic, preferably drell or justicar adept. I can hold my own in a team of me and 3 infiltrators (way too common on Gold), but I can't get as much done then. But put a novaguard, a drell adept and an asari adept on the same team on a small map like Glacier, and it's biotic explosions everywhere and the enemies just melt away. Still not as effective as 4 Geth Infiltrators with a Claymore, but a hell of a lot more fun.

I'm pretty effective with the Drell Adept, especially now that I have the ridiculously overpowered Grenade Gear at V. Asari Adept (warp+throw) is also a go to class when I'm not hosting and just need to get Gold done. I'm also quite effective with Vorcha Sentinel and a Claymore, can even top the chart when playing with friends sometimes. You can take a lot of damage with maxed out health regen (needs a small nerf?). I don't play infiltrators at all.

The most fun class after human vanguard is definitely drell vanguard. I just don't have what it takes to play them on Gold effectively. When are you buffing this class? QFE is getting buffs, and drell vanguard is worse. One of the problems with this design of having support and damage classes is that you just plain don't need support classes for anything even on Gold. Shotgun infiltrators are just plain better at everything.

Modifié par Achire, 18 juin 2012 - 10:16 .