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[Catastrophy]

Derek Hollan wrote...

After reading through your posts I would like to expand on this question.

Do you feel you need to be a primary damage dealer in order to be a viable contributor to your team?

Do you feel there is a discrepancy between your idea of fun in multi-player and what you feel you need to be in order to succeed?

Again, purely subjective questions.

You can answer this in a couple ways:

1. In a random group (PUG).

2. With a set team of friends.

Cheers!

When I play characters that focus on explosives I am not satisfied, when my actions don't result in a higher score.

When I play e.g. an engineer, I am quite content stripping shields - I know, hardcore snipers appreciated it. But I need the feel to put out damage and diversion, too. Therefore, the Geth engineer is very useful, but feel I can do more with a human engineer.

I also like to play the FQI and do a bit of scouting. Flank enemies, go for ravagers, rescue teammates and see the objectives are done.
Against Cerberus, I am always eager to find a nice turret and sabotage it.
The tactical scan is also a very nice support ability, I wish the area scan offered more punch. Most games are quiet on the mic and visually pointing out potential threats to others is a good way to cooperate.

I find coop games more fun than competitive ones.
If I happen to drop into a match where people actually cooperate and synergize their powers it's usually one of the better experiences.

[Sopec]

I'm actually doing my best with...
-Asari adept
-Hurricane II (180% PRS)
-Expert package III (SMG+7%, PRS+7%).
Just started doing this recently, and I'm dying less,killing more and having more fun.
but I'm not a gold player so I don't know how effect I would be in there.

in close combat, warp(w/expose) then hurricane just pwns.

Modifié par Ah_gho, 20 juin 2012 - 10:36 .

[HowlingSiren]

In terms of pure effectiveness, I vote for my beloved Turian Sentinel. Overload and Warp are great skills to have in combination with other players and are effective against all enemies, he dishes out a significant amount of weapon damage on his own as well and he's no glass cannon. I usually play him first in Gold PUGs, where yes, I feel I need to be a primary damage dealer to be perceived as a valuable teammate.

With friends, I play anything I want to, mostly AJA, AA, Kroguard, TS or SI, because I know score doesn't matter as much to them and they give me the freedom to experiment.

[PluralAces]

Well on Gold, I only use two primary characters, Asari Adept and Salarian Infiltrator, the AA as my dominant character (kills, set up and detonate explosions) and the SI as a support character (healing, debuffing, objectives).

On silver I basically use any character just to level up or try out new things, but the AA dn the SI are the two characters I would say I am most effective with.

[JustinSaneV2]

Derek Hollan wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Derek...dude talk to your brethren and give us a Phantom class. Please? "bats eyelashes" 



Would <3 to play as one 

I know I'd play one.

This. Would. Be. AWESOME.  

Lore be damned!  I want a playable sword-weilding Phantom defector!

[TheOneMavado]

I mostly play my salarian infiltrator these days (farming FBWGG), since even some of the people playing infiltrators there don't seem to understand how to use their tactical cloak to disable objectives.

But I actually prefer playing power based classes (adepts and engineers), and gladly switch to them when my cloaked talents aren't needed.

Derek Hollan wrote...
Do you feel you need to be a primary damage dealer in order to be a viable contributor to your team?

Not at all. Infact I'm quite happy being outscored as long it felt like I contributed.

Just yesterday I had a game where I got annoyed by a male quarian engineer who didn't use tac-scan on anything. So I spec'd up one of my own while the rest of the party was shopping (Am I the only one who finds it rude to shop while in the lobby?), and promptly procceded to scan everything (well, almost) in order to show him how it's done.

He still refused to scan anything and I finished third (only beating him in score), but try finding a player in that party who didn't think I contributed.

Modifié par TheOneMavado, 20 juin 2012 - 03:46 .

[Rotacioskapa]

Most of the classes i liked to play and was effective on gold became completely useless after the latest patch and the removal of headshot dmg on bosses. For example the turian soldier speced for RoF was extremely useful on gold before, now it's just a piece of ****.

Most effective are the infiltrator classes on gold sadly. And the most boring to play with.

[dimeonwu]

I notice >30% of these replies are Infiltrators. THat's close to double the random chance (1/6).

Since you asked about the damage dealing, I actually enjoy support. Damage and score matter little to me.

Sometimes though, it goes pear shaped and I have do BOTH support AND DPS AND revive downed teammates... making it even more pearshaped cos some of my builds are heavily support based and I generally dislike carrying heavy weaponry

[dimeonwu]

JustinSaneV2 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Derek...dude talk to your brethren and give us a Phantom class. Please? "bats eyelashes" 



Would <3 to play as one 

I know I'd play one.

This. Would. Be. AWESOME.  

Lore be damned!  I want a playable sword-weilding Phantom defector!

Who knows one of the new classes might have Cloak, Charge and Immunity:bandit:

[TheOneMavado]

I guess we know where the idea for this weeks OP came from.

Getting us to play un-favored races and try out different classes.

Cudos to you BioWare, cudos.

[Gockey]

TheOneMavado wrote...

I guess we know where the idea for this weeks OP came from.

Getting us to play un-favored races and try out different classes.

Cudos to you BioWare, cudos.

+1 lol.

[Ol Jeb]

My best class is the Geth Engineer. No points in Hunter Mode, max damage flamethrower turret and maximum damage to shields overload, with a pulse rifle. He works great for active fire support from a distance, and firing the turret into the fray gives my teammates more firepower and occasional shield regen. The pulse rifle lets me take out enemies at huge ranges, and with the piercing mod, guardians are nothing to me

The most fun I'm having right now is with the QMI with a valiant and eagle. I don't use the cloak except to escape enemies or flank them if they pin us down. The damage output with the arc grenade is awesome and the tac scan lets the team take down boss types much easier. I just love how skirmishy I feel with him, and the valiant is one of the few sniper rifles I'm actually good with >_>

[Rokayt]

http://social.biowar.../index/12698790
Aside from it being a joke here, this is probably my own best trick as far as playing the game. Nothing has the beef to deal with the weapons on 10X damage, and I fully would encourage people to celebrate the upcoming nerfs with this build.

Modifié par Rokayt, 22 juin 2012 - 11:53 .

[FataliTensei]

1. If I'm playing in a PUG and playing a class with decent DPS I do look at my score as how much I contributed to the team, I generally get first or second but every once in awhile I get third and it's very embarrassing for me because I view it as me being a drag on the team.

2. Depends on who I'm playing with. If I'm playing a relaxed game with friends the it's not a huge issue for me but again I like to come in at least second to feel like I'm contributing. If I'm doing speedruns with GodlessPaladin then I don't even look at the score because I know there is absolutely no way I'm coming out on top, that guy is simply too good =).

[LULZferBAKON]

Hm, I play multiple characters, but if I had to pick a favorite it would be my Saber wielding Human Vanguard 'Ezio Novatore'. It reminds me of why I picked Vanguard for my class back in the days of ME1, focusing on weaponry, but having biotics to back it up.

[Rokayt]

I feel I need to do adequately in order to be a viable contributor. If my role is suppressing and taking bullets, I am going to get disappointed if I do not hear bullets plinking off my armor. If my characters designated and designed role is to do kill everything, no exception, then yes, I do want to be one of the more major damage dealers.

Ultimately, success can be fun when it doesn't obstruct ones playstyle. If I have to do something that breaks my playstyle to succeed, it isn't fun. Its reviving 5 times with medigel to distract phantoms from a guy who is hacking an objective.

Doing something my build is obviously not for and calling it "support" isn't fun. Rocking a falcon on an absolute tank with cryo rounds and giving everyone hundreds of cheap headshots from the mountains of frozen foes is. "Tanking" an instagib for the team on a full offense Engineer for the team is most definitely Un-Fun.

Ultimately, in pugs I have been top score almost universally.
In legion effect I almost always play an actual support role (As opposed to doing bad as a Human soldier with warp rounds and a Revenant, and calling myself "Support.")

[Derek Hollan]

[quote]Air Quotes wrote...

[quote]Derek Hollan wrote...

[quote]Air Quotes wrote...

Derek...dude talk to your brethren and give us a Phantom class. Please? "bats eyelashe

I know I'd play one. [/quote]

 so we have a deal then? I love you so much right now! 
[/quote]

So, we cool then?

[cuzIMgood]

Most effective?
Drell Adept for reapers
Geth Infiltrator for everything else

However, I'm starting to find that the phoenix classes are pretty ridiculous and possibly better than both of these.