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[Methew]

ParanoidDrone wrote...

Methew wrote...

Drellguard is like going to a S&M Club without a safety word

I love you.

I have my moments.

Modifié par Methew, 18 juin 2012 - 05:53 .

[The fool you should have eaten]

Gockey wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Lol anyone who failed to answer infiltrator is doing it wrong.

The question was entertained by not most effective with - I've never been less than top of the scoreboard the few times I've used a GI/Krysae - and I've seldom been more bored in game.

Apparently you missed the thread title and the OP.  The title is What is your most effective class / weapon strategy? 

Derek Hollan wrote...

Although you consider it your most effective build / weapon combination, is it also the one you are most entertained with?[i]

 

Again your doing it wrong.  The answer for everyone is Infiltrator and No.

You are a funny one.  If I could snipe, well then the RNG wouldn't be giving me a bunch of Ultra-rare sniper rifles.  I tell you those enemies are moving to freaking fast for me to land a head shot...  or a body shot.  The Infiltrator class is the only one that I have ever promoted without actually playing.

And did it ever cross your mind that you can be effective at more than dishing out damage?  Have you ever played with or considered playing as a support class, intended to help those infiltrators be even more effective?  One can play a support class very effectively and score poorly.  Yes.  But they make everything easier on the team.  For example 2/3 of my most enjoyable builds which you are about to see are supportive not killers.

Human Soldier:
Using a falcon and specced for AR damage and health in the fitness tree, he is the king of suppression, able to let out 20 (or more if you need it) rounds of uninterupted stunlock.  Best played against the Geth.  Give those suckers a taste of their own medicine.


Quarian Female Engineer:
Take a gun, any gun.  Its purpose is to keep the enemies from killing you not to actually kill them.  Spec cryo for extra damage and stick to your heavy hitters.  Area incinerate and a flame turret also help with controling the crowds.

Batarian Slav...  Soldier:
Mattock with AP and barrel mods.  Spec him for explosive blades to stun an enemies and do it again right after they recover.  Process: fire blades, falcon punch, shoot if not dead but around that time the blades should be exploding, repeat.  anything not in punching distance should be shot with the mattock.  I personally enjoy playing with him against cerberus.  It is a lot of fun to melee phantoms to death as they are stunned by your blades.

That is all

Edit: to make it clear, I grew tired of hoard mode and knew that there was little fun to be had in trying to top th e charts in every game, so most of my builds are intended to be fun and team orriented...  Like my scorpion Turian Soldier.

Modifié par The fool you should have eaten, 18 juin 2012 - 05:57 .

[stysiaq]

Male Quarian Engineer is my entertainment boy.
I love throwing Arc Grenades into whole groups of enemies (especially Geth) and Incinerate them right away.
I love marking the priority targets for my team.
I love the fact that it is not an Infiltrator (the class is kinda boring)
I named him Mal Reegar. He is voiced by Nathan Fillion.

The second place goes to Turian and Human Soldiers. They are basically gunnery chiefs of this game (excluding ridiculous Infiltrator damage bonus). Each gun is worth trying out on a Human Soldier, after trying it with anything else. AR reload gives me a ME1 feel, when I didn;t need to reload at all.

The last place goes for my Biotic Kermit, aka Drell Adept. Gets even more awesome with Caffeine equipment. I know the Reave + Cluster drill quite well, and I don't have to pray for my Reave to hit the enemies. I can Reave the Phantoms and just run away, leaving them to die.

I'm also quite efficient with FQI with Valiant. It's not a gun to approach bosses, but I'm quite good at popping those regular heads away, and sabotaging the turret never gets old.

[BoomDynamite]

Gockey wrote...

 

Kloreep wrote...

Gockey wrote...

The answer for everyone is Infiltrator and No.

And if you just aren't a good sniper?

Anything that depends on aim... I can do it, but I will hardly be the exemplar of how it's done.

Mind you, even with that, I'd probably still name an Infiltrator as my second most effective class. They certainly are good.

 

What does sniping have to do with it?  Use a shotgun.  Use an assault rifle.  Use the Hurricane.  It doesn't really matter.

BoomDynamite wrote...

No, there is a difference. One is subjective, and the other objective. Opinions =/= Facts. You can easily find out the most effective class using in-game data, but not what individuals think is the best one.

*sigh* Reading comprehension must be slow on Monday's.  You realize the question has nothing to do with what you said right?

You realize the question wasn't asking for opinions right?

You realize that for every individual (assuming ceteris paribus) , the answer is the same right?  

No?  Ah, too bad.  

Your doing it wrong.

No, it is a SUBJECTIVE question trhat is based on opinions. A signal for that is the word "your".  For me the most effective as Warp --> Throw spam, but I know someone that is amazing with Novaguards.

[KAM12780]

I love playing my asari vanguard. Stasis an enemy with insta-cooldown, charge, if there's any other enemies left, throw a lift grenade. Then move onto the next crowd and repeat!

[PD ORTA]

Turian Sentinel with Crusader is my most effective class, followed by Phoenix Adept with Carnifex.

[Derek Hollan]

spudspot wrote...

Methew wrote...

Drellguard is like going to a S&M Club without a safety word

That one totally made my day! 

All I can say is, "Ouch!"

[Bolo Xia]

Air Quotes wrote...

Derek...dude talk to your brethren and give us a Phantom class. Please? "bats eyelashes" 



Would <3 to play as one 

by the way the pic is.....
the phantom needs a less flat bum 

[BoomDynamite]

Good to see BW posting on the forums a lot.

[78stonewobble]

I'm having great fun with the gethgineer in a supporting role. Picking off enemies from teammates back and using the shield turret to help team mates and distract enemies.

Still love sniping though. It's not about score or efficiency but eg. with the BW to get those perfect 3 headshots in a row. Aka. getting the perfect shot in. Just a little shame that the geth infiltrator is so much more efficient at that.

[Shampoohorn]

spudspot wrote...

Methew wrote...

Drellguard is like going to a S&M Club without a safety word

That one totally made my day! 

My safety word is charge, but yesterday my drellguard ended up inside a ravager/ravager/brute spawn point.  So yeah, you nailed it.

[darkchief10]

I love my GI followed closely by my VS, they make me feel warm inside

[Gockey]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Lol anyone who failed to answer infiltrator is doing it wrong.

The question was entertained by not most effective with - I've never been less than top of the scoreboard the few times I've used a GI/Krysae - and I've seldom been more bored in game.

Apparently you missed the thread title and the OP.  The title is What is your most effective class / weapon strategy? 

Derek Hollan wrote...

Although you consider it your most effective build / weapon combination, is it also the one you are most entertained with?[i]

 

Again your doing it wrong.  The answer for everyone is Infiltrator and No.

You are a funny one.  If I could snipe, well then the RNG wouldn't be giving me a bunch of Ultra-rare sniper rifles.  I tell you those enemies are moving to freaking fast for me to land a head shot...  or a body shot.  The Infiltrator class is the only one that I have ever promoted without actually playing.

And did it ever cross your mind that you can be effective at more than dishing out damage?  Have you ever played with or considered playing as a support class, intended to help those infiltrators be even more effective?  One can play a support class very effectively and score poorly.  Yes.  But they make everything easier on the team.  For example 2/3 of my most enjoyable builds which you are about to see are supportive not killers.

Lol.  Have you ever considered what the point of a match is?  I'm going with no.  Otherwise you wouldn't possibly argue that stasis-ing something, or stunning something, or CC in general, is better than flat out killing something.

More kills=more exp=faster runs=more credits.

Why would you ever want to slow a team down by being less effective vis a vis a support class? Lol   As for your first claim of enemies moving to fast...  I'm assuming you've never one fired an Arc grenade, Energy Drain, etc etc, and noticed that it staggered something (ie made it immobile)? 

Your right, hitting a stationary target while invisible and taking no fire is hard mode.

Your doing it wrong.

[BoomDynamite]

Gockey wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Lol anyone who failed to answer infiltrator is doing it wrong.

The question was entertained by not most effective with - I've never been less than top of the scoreboard the few times I've used a GI/Krysae - and I've seldom been more bored in game.

Apparently you missed the thread title and the OP.  The title is What is your most effective class / weapon strategy? 

Derek Hollan wrote...

Although you consider it your most effective build / weapon combination, is it also the one you are most entertained with?[i]

 

Again your doing it wrong.  The answer for everyone is Infiltrator and No.

You are a funny one.  If I could snipe, well then the RNG wouldn't be giving me a bunch of Ultra-rare sniper rifles.  I tell you those enemies are moving to freaking fast for me to land a head shot...  or a body shot.  The Infiltrator class is the only one that I have ever promoted without actually playing.

And did it ever cross your mind that you can be effective at more than dishing out damage?  Have you ever played with or considered playing as a support class, intended to help those infiltrators be even more effective?  One can play a support class very effectively and score poorly.  Yes.  But they make everything easier on the team.  For example 2/3 of my most enjoyable builds which you are about to see are supportive not killers.

Lol.  Have you ever considered what the point of a match is?  I'm going with no.  Otherwise you wouldn't possibly argue that stasis-ing something, or stunning something, or CC in general, is better than flat out killing something.

More kills=more exp=faster runs=more credits.

Why would you ever want to slow a team down by being less effective vis a vis a support class? Lol   As for your first claim of enemies moving to fast...  I'm assuming you've never one fired an Arc grenade, Energy Drain, etc etc, and noticed that it staggered something (ie made it immobile)? 

Your right, hitting a stationary target while invisible and taking no fire is hard mode.

Your doing it wrong.

DAs finish Gold faster than Infiltrators if they do it right. Much faster.

[soldo9149]

Most effective class is below
Race: Geth
class: Infiltrator
Weapon: Harrier
Build: 6/5/6/6/3
Built for: Tactical cloak, proxy, then oping fire on anything hit by the mine
Things to remember: Geth do not intentional infiltrate
Why is it fun: Because I finally have a good AR that works well with Infiltrator, it is a lot of hit and run tactic's and the harrier has good rate of fire, good recoil, and allows easy head shots quickly.

[dumael]

Most effective for me: MQI packing a Harrier + Reegar + Extra grenade gear. Harrier for long to short range, reegar for short range and boss/elites melting, arc grenades for AoE and 'get away from me'.

After that MQE specced for tech bursts, AA (BEs), SE on enclosed maps/maps with good choke points.

For fun: (melee) drellguard, melee GI, krysae GE (gets old fast though), vorcha sentinel carrying harrer+reegar.

Derek Hollan wrote...
Although you consider it your most effective build / weapon combination, is it also the one you are most entertained with?

As I play more with a build I'm effective with, it starts to get stale. Some of the builds I find fun I doubt I'll ever reach the same level of effectiveness. Can't damage spike as well, can't AoE damage nearly as well.

Edit: tossing my 2cents in for playable phantom (character).

Modifié par dumael, 18 juin 2012 - 06:04 .

[Kloreep]

Gockey wrote...

What does sniping have to do with it?  Use a shotgun.  Use an assault rifle.  Use the Hurricane.  It doesn't really matter.

I'm actually worse with shotguns.

But fair enough, I imagine I might be surprised by its effectiveness with an AR or pistol.

[Gockey]

No, it is a SUBJECTIVE question trhat is based on opinions. A signal for that is the word "your".  For me the most effective as Warp --> Throw spam, but I know someone that is amazing with Novaguards.

Wow, are you trolling?  Didd you forget to use google?  At the risk of feeding a troll, let me try again.

Asking someone what their most effective class is has nothing to do with what they like.  It does however ask what they effectively complete runs with the fastest.  You can go ahead and discount a Biotic right off the top as those lovely warps are overwritten or the enemy is dead 99% of the time so you never get that BE.  If you do then your not playing with an Infiltrator.

If you are playing with an Infiltrator then thay are doing it wrong and clearly would lose to you regardless of the class they picked.  

Because reagrdless of what your opinion is, the fact is the Infiltrator is the best class.  Ergo, a person will always do better with an infiltrator than they will with another class assuming ceteris paribus.  

In other words, the two questions amount to the same thing: infiltrator.

[guitarsniper]

I'm gonna go with my turian sentinel, revenant X barrel/AP, TA specced for power damage and recharge

I never go into a situation feeling like I don't have an appropriate tool for the job, and I can synergise really well with basically any other class.

[Unkillable cat]

Depends on my mood, but favourites|

Any biotic, but mostly Asari (either one) with the phalanx. I know I'm supposed to love the carnifex but I just can't bring myself to like it. With this little fella you've got the choice of bio 'splosions and rapid fire armour piercing, which is still great for head shots.

Phoenix adept is the exception to the rule, I tend to go vindicator, I've got plenty of close range potential, so it's more about ranged spam rather than precision. Most games though I don't end up firing a single shot unless it's against guardians since the transition time between firing a power and being able to shoot with these guys is just rude.

Kroguard, eviscerator for a bit more rapid fire with better armour pen using the shredder. If its low ranking a headshot takes them down , if higher the more spamable fire is better.

Batarian soldier, both of the above. Stick with the phalanx most of the time since the blades take care of the close up work, and after a grenade I use it for cleanup duty. I only resort to the shotty if I'm feeling crowded.

A wild card weapon I resort to sometimes for any class, but quite often for human or Quarian engineers is the raptor. I'm a crap sniper but this is great for taking down most opponents from a safe distance, and is decent from the hip.

Modifié par Unkillable cat, 18 juin 2012 - 06:07 .

[Zso_Zso]

Krogan vanguard with the Eagle !

YESSS I can fly like an eagle :innocent:

Modifié par Zso_Zso, 18 juin 2012 - 06:03 .

[BobWalt]

One Character I find useful and fun is my Kroguard Soldier. I have left out Biotic Charge and maxed everything else specializing in weapon damage. I equip him with a Krysae X (damage and ammo) and a Reeger X (damage and ammo). It's a great way to play the Krogan Vanguard and not have to worry about the glitch that is not fixed.  I'd say this is a Mass Effective character.

Modifié par BobWalt, 18 juin 2012 - 06:08 .

[Shampoohorn]

@ Gockey, @ BoomDynamite

Could you guys take it out of the dev thread? You're not adding to the discussion. Derek asked about individual player's most effective classes, not for blah blah blah knee whacking pissing matches.

No doubt this won't work, but I had to try.

[The fool you should have eaten]

Gockey wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Gockey wrote...

Lol anyone who failed to answer infiltrator is doing it wrong.

The question was entertained by not most effective with - I've never been less than top of the scoreboard the few times I've used a GI/Krysae - and I've seldom been more bored in game.

Apparently you missed the thread title and the OP.  The title is What is your most effective class / weapon strategy? 

Derek Hollan wrote...

Although you consider it your most effective build / weapon combination, is it also the one you are most entertained with?[i]

 

Again your doing it wrong.  The answer for everyone is Infiltrator and No.

You are a funny one.  If I could snipe, well then the RNG wouldn't be giving me a bunch of Ultra-rare sniper rifles.  I tell you those enemies are moving to freaking fast for me to land a head shot...  or a body shot.  The Infiltrator class is the only one that I have ever promoted without actually playing.

And did it ever cross your mind that you can be effective at more than dishing out damage?  Have you ever played with or considered playing as a support class, intended to help those infiltrators be even more effective?  One can play a support class very effectively and score poorly.  Yes.  But they make everything easier on the team.  For example 2/3 of my most enjoyable builds which you are about to see are supportive not killers.

Lol.  Have you ever considered what the point of a match is?  I'm going with no.  Otherwise you wouldn't possibly argue that stasis-ing something, or stunning something, or CC in general, is better than flat out killing something.

More kills=more exp=faster runs=more credits.

Why would you ever want to slow a team down by being less effective vis a vis a support class? Lol   As for your first claim of enemies moving to fast...  I'm assuming you've never one fired an Arc grenade, Energy Drain, etc etc, and noticed that it staggered something (ie made it immobile)? 

Your right, hitting a stationary target while invisible and taking no fire is hard mode.

Your doing it wrong.

Also one might note that dead team mates and soloing waves makes you go through that game really fast, where as the crowd-control tactic of keeping those hunters/pyro/etc at bay and keeping your squadies from being supprised induces slow rounds with minimal casualties.  Or not.  Or I am making you infiltrator people more useful by allowing you to shoot down your narrow fields of view without ever having to consider the possiblity of your flank caving in without you getting a chance to pull out.  At which point you would have been surrounded by... let's say pyros and killed, or stunlocked by a hunter... and killed.  Try and consider things outside of the box and consider the paragraph that I wrote regarding the multiple meanings of effectiveness.

[DayusMakhina]

Those saying Infiltrators are automatically the most effective class are doing it wrong.

Infiltrators are the easiest to be most effective with, but in the hands of a skilled player some other combinations are just as, if not more than, powerful.

My most effective is a toss up between GI with a Black Widow and an MQE with a Mattock. In terms of the most entertaining, the MQE is certainly up there when it comes to that, just a little ahead of the Asari Justicar for me.

Modifié par DayusMakhina, 18 juin 2012 - 06:06 .