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[WARMACHINE9]

Only you can know when your eady for higher levels and you can only find out if you try the higher levels. sure mistakes will be made but thats how we learn. For me personally I fell you should have a mid level character your comfortable with for silver and level 20's for gold. Also if your not a team player don't play anything but bronze, you're just gonna get everyone killed.

[Silasqtx]

YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.

But seriously, try Silver and judge by yourself.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Silasqtx wrote...

YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.

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Pure win.

[FineMelcior]

You need to be able to honestly and critically evaluate you own performance in Bronze. If you feel you're doing well at that level, contributing to the teams performance, not being overwhelmed or panicked by what bronze throws at you, have a basic understanding of the maps, enemy tactics, game mechanics and how your character & weapons combinations work and are looking for a bigger challenge then it is probably time to look at trying silver, if you don't like it you can always come back to bronze. Other people will judge you by your N7 level, your character level and your weapon load-out but at the end of the day the only one who truly knows if you are ready is you, if you think you're pulling your weight then you probably are (unless you're lying to yourself).

I would however strongly recommend that if you are worried about your first foray into silver your follow the following steps:
1. Go with your best Character, the one you know the best, it might be boring compared to that new fancy Asari or Drell you've just unlocked, but you won't do yourself any favors trying out a new character, weapon or build in your first run at a higher level.
2. Make sure you have maxed out all your consumables, having as many rocket and medi-gels as you can carry is always a plus when trying something for the first time.
3. The same goes for weapon/armor upgrades, use the best you've got
4. Consider pre-selecting the location and faction to ones you know really well, rather than going random, the last thing you want is your first silver run to be against an enemy you really hate in a map you loath.

Apart from that just go out there and have fun

Modifié par FineMelcior, 18 juin 2012 - 06:13 .

[upinya slayin]

whenever you feel ready. Basically i feel like i'm the minimum skill level to play gold. I don't feel people should be playing gold if they can't outright beat me. I've played with much better players then myself and still shocked when i come in 1st by far on a gold level. I can't carry a team by myself but i've gotten close to that. me and 1 of my friends played with 2 randoms on gold (an N7 of 1 with a predator 1 and mantis 1 aka first game ever and an N7 of like a 40 something) and we beat a gold random random. my friend was way in 1st and i was way in 2nd and the other 2 barely broke 10k and 20k respectively

[Longhammer808]

It's all about progression. Bronze is where you train, Silver is where you hone your skills, and Gold is where your training and skills are put to the test.

Therefore, when a low-level N7 jumps into a Gold lobby, it's either because they 1.) overestimate their skills or 2.) underestimate Gold. These two factors will combine to crush their souls. A good but inexperienced player will understand they bit off more than they could chew, and will return to Bronze/Silver to work their way back up to Gold. A bad but inexperienced player will learn nothing and continue ruining Gold matches with their melee-based Krogan.

[Pitznik]

IAMREALITY wrote...

The fact they're playing the game. Any other answer is simply wrong.

Great way to promote arrogance and self-entitlement.

[JiceDuresh]

There's no really good criteria, but the best thing would be to know certain key things you might not really learn about in bronze matches.

1) Do you know what Biotic Explosion and Tech Bursts are, do you know what powers set them up and set them off?

2) Do you understand how the enemies work? If you're not aware that banshees can be hit by projectile biotics while they teleport, but absorb them while thier hand is held up, time to fight more reapers with less panic and more attention.

3) Do you know ability limitations? If you're not aware that Stasis doesn't work on shileded enemies after the first 5 times you tried, keep playing bronze.

4) Knowlege of weapons. Have you used every weapon type and know just what they can do? To me at first shotguns seemed terrible, now they make the most sense to take once you're used to them.

5) Cover, get use to it. Bronze allows for sloppy or limited cover use, gold does not, get used to rolls/dodges if you play a class that can and 'peeking' where you fire a wepon from over cover quickly then get back into it. Learn when to fall back from a position and don't stay in one place. Also as a quick note for anyone on a PC, hitting the middle mouse button allows you to take a corner while staying in cover.

6) Looking at your team in the lobby then deciding what's best for the team to take. For the most part you'll end up in a room filled with infiltartors, if you yourself are one, congratulations, your using a broken class and wont learn anything about the game. If not, try taking classes that mesh with others. If you see other adepts, take something with biotics, if you see tech classes, find another tech class that can burst. Vanguards? Take a reave class and just spam what ever you think they are about to charge. Soilders and Infiltrtors? Try not taking a class that moves stuff around a lot like Lash/Shockwave/Throw, since they rely on their weapons to do damage and need to be able to aim.

7) Do not stand in the extraction zone. On bronze, it's easy to hold, on silver/gold, before the 2 minutes is up, you will be overwhelmed.  Hold a location close to the Zone and make sure you keep a path to it clear and only head to it when there is about 15 - 20 seconds left to extraction.

Silver really isn't that hard if you know the baiscs, so try it out, and if you die, watch what other people do to find out what tips and tricks you can learn.

Modifié par JiceDuresh, 18 juin 2012 - 06:46 .

[madgg35]

Esto no es una competición, yo jugué mi primera partida en nivel plata con un N7 64 encontré gente buena me reanimaron unas cuantas veces pero completamos la partida, depende de los compañeros de equipo que encuentres, esto es un juego. Yo ya he jugado en los tres niveles y como todos tengo días buenos y días malos, juega para divertirte, esto es un juego.

[donnyrides]

madgg35 wrote...

Esto no es una competición, yo jugué mi primera partida en nivel plata con un N7 64 encontré gente buena me reanimaron unas cuantas veces pero completamos la partida, depende de los compañeros de equipo que encuentres, esto es un juego. Yo ya he jugado en los tres niveles y como todos tengo días buenos y días malos, juega para divertirte, esto es un juego.

 in english = 

"This is not a competition, I played my first game in silver level with a N7 64 i found good people i was reanimated a few times but we completed the game, depends on the teammates that you are, this is a game. I have already played in all three levels, as all i have good days and bad days, play for fun, this is a game. "

[Ygolnac]

the n7 rank means nothing.
A N7 20 could be someone that brought a character to lvl 20, never played any other class and never promoted. Maybe that player extracted on several dozens of gold, have super gear and is very good.

A N7 1000+ could be someone that played every class and promotes as soon it reaches 20, but never got good at playing.

For me the requirement to play silver or gold is your will to play with the team and not go rambo, have a good awarness and knowledge of game mechanics.

On silver i never kick anybody before seeing them playing, i can even tolerate an adept with a jevelin (though they always prove to suck).

On a public gold i want a char 15+ with appropriate equipment or i kick. For approppiate equipment i don't mean an ultra rare weapon level x, but a weapon appropiate for your class.

Last week we kicked an asari vanguard N7 2000+ becouse he wanted to use a Black Widow X and we kept a properly equiped N7 80 and we rocked on gold.

[Dshinakuma]

Longhammer808 wrote...

It's all about progression. Bronze is where you train, Silver is where you hone your skills, and Gold is where your training and skills are put to the test.

Therefore, when a low-level N7 jumps into a Gold lobby, it's either because they 1.) overestimate their skills or 2.) underestimate Gold. These two factors will combine to crush their souls. A good but inexperienced player will understand they bit off more than they could chew, and will return to Bronze/Silver to work their way back up to Gold. A bad but inexperienced player will learn nothing and continue ruining Gold matches with their melee-based Krogan.

I totally agree with this. However, sometimes I do not discriminate against N7 levels. A person with N7 120 could have played the game since launch but never chose to promote classes (I know this may seem weird but it is quite plausible).

In order for a person to play above bronze, they must be a team player, or at least catch on and learn certain strategies to certain maps. On Bronze, you can make mistakes and test different loadouts and setups. On Silver, see if those different setups work. This level should be for players who, at least, knows the game mechanics and tricks. If all fails, it's back to bronze for more training. Gold is reserved for those who have mastered their playstyle and who can efficiently play different classes, and working as a "team" with other players. If you can't work as a team, playing higher than bronze might not be the best.

[ArcTrooper1773]

I've run a little test on this, but I'll get to that in a minute.

I didn't go to silver until I'd completed a match on bronze without tripping up and having to wait for one of my team members to rub my stubbed toe better.

I didn't go to gold until I'd done the same thing on silver.

And suddenly Gold wasn't the challenge everyone made it out to be. Now I can do a gold match without falling over the nearest Geth trooper, I find the other two really easy. Build up gently, I find.

Still, my experiment was interesting. I'd hosted a match on U/U/B, waited for 4 low-level N7's to come in, then switched to U/U/G before we readied up and went out.

If you were in this lobby, I apologise.  But dudes, you hit wave 6!  Enjoy your 40K, you guys definitely earned it, and don't be scared of Gold - prepare the character and you'll ace it, easily.

Just shows - it's mostly in your head where difficulty is concerned - make insanity seem insane and you'll never complete it (good example is that username off to this post's left). I assume these people thought they were playing bronze because nobody shot off an angry message to me.  Either that, or they were all lovely polite people like on here

Modifié par ArcTrooper1773, 18 juin 2012 - 06:52 .

[kr3g]

Can solo bronze - go to silver
Can solo silver - go to gold
Can solo gold - well... here is no platina yet.

But most people will not care about your "skill",weapon,N7rank, or character as long as you on bronze/silver

[soldo9149]

Dshinakuma wrote...

Longhammer808 wrote...

It's all about progression. Bronze is where you train, Silver is where you hone your skills, and Gold is where your training and skills are put to the test.

Therefore, when a low-level N7 jumps into a Gold lobby, it's either because they 1.) overestimate their skills or 2.) underestimate Gold. These two factors will combine to crush their souls. A good but inexperienced player will understand they bit off more than they could chew, and will return to Bronze/Silver to work their way back up to Gold. A bad but inexperienced player will learn nothing and continue ruining Gold matches with their melee-based Krogan.

I totally agree with this. However, sometimes I do not discriminate against N7 levels. A person with N7 120 could have played the game since launch but never chose to promote classes (I know this may seem weird but it is quite plausible).

In order for a person to play above bronze, they must be a team player, or at least catch on and learn certain strategies to certain maps. On Bronze, you can make mistakes and test different loadouts and setups. On Silver, see if those different setups work. This level should be for players who, at least, knows the game mechanics and tricks. If all fails, it's back to bronze for more training. Gold is reserved for those who have mastered their playstyle and who can efficiently play different classes, and working as a "team" with other players. If you can't work as a team, playing higher than bronze might not be the best.

The promoting thing is not odd at all, I stopped promoting after 1k for the most part, I just end up promoting vanguard, engineer, and sentinal everytime they get to 20 from class cards. Bloody things are all I get from PSP and the normal PS packs.

[Robbiesan]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Try it out. If you do really poorly, you're probably not ready. You'll never know if you don't try though.

Yep.  best way to know which level you should be playing is simply to try.  had a player in Gold recently, hwas something like N7 20, and had level 1 weapons.  Figured this was a new person, but we did not kick.  I think he lasted two waves before realizing Gold was too much and left.

I know for myself I waited to play Gold until I felt ready (more experience, and better weapons/levels).  Now Gold is all I play, unless a weekend event calls for promotions.

[Gwinever]

join a silver/gold game if you feel rdy for it try it out for 2 matches and compare the progress you have made between those 2 matches, if both go horrible your probebly not rdy yet and should go back to your old difficulty to improve, if you notice your doing alot better the 2nd match stay and get even better.
2 matches trying out is good as you can adjust to the jump in difficulty the 1st match (apllies most for silver to gold)

[kr3g]

soldo9149 wrote...

Dshinakuma wrote...

Longhammer808 wrote...

It's all about progression. Bronze is where you train, Silver is where you hone your skills, and Gold is where your training and skills are put to the test.

Therefore, when a low-level N7 jumps into a Gold lobby, it's either because they 1.) overestimate their skills or 2.) underestimate Gold. These two factors will combine to crush their souls. A good but inexperienced player will understand they bit off more than they could chew, and will return to Bronze/Silver to work their way back up to Gold. A bad but inexperienced player will learn nothing and continue ruining Gold matches with their melee-based Krogan.

I totally agree with this. However, sometimes I do not discriminate against N7 levels. A person with N7 120 could have played the game since launch but never chose to promote classes (I know this may seem weird but it is quite plausible).

In order for a person to play above bronze, they must be a team player, or at least catch on and learn certain strategies to certain maps. On Bronze, you can make mistakes and test different loadouts and setups. On Silver, see if those different setups work. This level should be for players who, at least, knows the game mechanics and tricks. If all fails, it's back to bronze for more training. Gold is reserved for those who have mastered their playstyle and who can efficiently play different classes, and working as a "team" with other players. If you can't work as a team, playing higher than bronze might not be the best.

The promoting thing is not odd at all, I stopped promoting after 1k for the most part, I just end up promoting vanguard, engineer, and sentinal everytime they get to 20 from class cards. Bloody things are all I get from PSP and the normal PS packs.

What is normal PS pack? )

[MajesticKill]

the willingness to use cobra missiles, even if it is just on a husk

[soldo9149]

kr3g wrote...

soldo9149 wrote...

Dshinakuma wrote...

Longhammer808 wrote...

It's all about progression. Bronze is where you train, Silver is where you hone your skills, and Gold is where your training and skills are put to the test.

Therefore, when a low-level N7 jumps into a Gold lobby, it's either because they 1.) overestimate their skills or 2.) underestimate Gold. These two factors will combine to crush their souls. A good but inexperienced player will understand they bit off more than they could chew, and will return to Bronze/Silver to work their way back up to Gold. A bad but inexperienced player will learn nothing and continue ruining Gold matches with their melee-based Krogan.

I totally agree with this. However, sometimes I do not discriminate against N7 levels. A person with N7 120 could have played the game since launch but never chose to promote classes (I know this may seem weird but it is quite plausible).

In order for a person to play above bronze, they must be a team player, or at least catch on and learn certain strategies to certain maps. On Bronze, you can make mistakes and test different loadouts and setups. On Silver, see if those different setups work. This level should be for players who, at least, knows the game mechanics and tricks. If all fails, it's back to bronze for more training. Gold is reserved for those who have mastered their playstyle and who can efficiently play different classes, and working as a "team" with other players. If you can't work as a team, playing higher than bronze might not be the best.

The promoting thing is not odd at all, I stopped promoting after 1k for the most part, I just end up promoting vanguard, engineer, and sentinal everytime they get to 20 from class cards. Bloody things are all I get from PSP and the normal PS packs.

What is normal PS pack? )

Sorry Spector pack and and premium spector pack, I put PS instead of SP

[soldo9149]

MajesticKill wrote...

the willingness to use cobra missiles, even if it is just on a husk

that husk jumped in the way to save the banshee's, ravangers, and maybe a brute

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I'd say it depends upon the team. If you have a good team you'll play well. I've been on a good team in Silver and got 50 kills and 50 assists and everyone scores within 2000 pts of each other, and the room stays together for the entire night -- and this is a PUG. It was all teamwork. Everyone had everyone else's back. Not stressful at all.

I've been on crappy teams(?) where no one seems to work well together and gotten nothing. -- team wipes on wave 3 in a bronze match -- no I'm not wasting any med gel with this group.

And some nights you just have an off night, or maybe you're just not feeling well. If I'm having one of those nights I go back to bronze. No biggie.

And then there are people who play up to the ability of those around them.

PS: a really good player does not need level X weapons. A really good player can use a level I weapon and get the job done.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 18 juin 2012 - 07:14 .

[dumdum2]

Creston918 wrote...
I'm sorry, but the solo thing is just BS. I can't solo bronze, yet I extract on silver 99.999% of the time, and on Gold probably 3 or 4 out of 10. When did this soloing thing suddenly become some kind of yardstick?

Only 30-40% on gold? Now you see the value of being able to solo. If you have at least 2 guys who usually can solo any match it makes you have a 99.999% chance of making extraction on gold everytime.

Same on bronze and silver, if your team goes down and you know you can solo it, then you'll never fail.

[Terry Yaki]

I normally don't go to Silver and Gold until the XP gains from Bronze become cumbersome (usually around levels 16-18 at least). I remember playing a bunch of matches on Bronze where I went about a dozen or so without me dying (everybody else died except me). Basically if you know what you're doing (knowing the maps, knowing how to use your skills, knowing the strengths/weaknesses of the enemies, etc.) then you should at least do Silver once you feel "immortal" on Bronze. N7 Rating and character level do play a part in whether you can get into a Silver match (nobody wants an N7 of like 20 and/or a level under 15 in Silver). I've actually been able to get through more matches on Silver than I had expected and thus, I moved on to Gold where I have been able to get through a handful of matches there as well (but I tend to avoid Gold a lot of times since that's where all the TryHards live).

[madgg35]

This game was sold in March, do you really think that there are people playing the same character since not promote him?
I apologize but I think someone with a 1000 + N7 must know something, if only by repetition that has played a lot of games.
Of course there are people with a level lower than N7 play better and have no problems in spending missiles if needed or to cover an area, and slopes are less sure of the number of casualties that a high level.
This is a gameand we all have good games and bad games, and all need to play at another level is to start with your best character, your best weapon ammo good, and want to have fun.