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[tonnactus]

iggy4566 wrote...

Becuase their so bad there good?

Maybee thats the reason. But Mass Effect 3 endings not even have unintenionelly humor.

[Maias227]

dr_age86 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

No need to apologize. I wasn't offended. I was just defusing a situation before it occurred, while also expressing how I see things.....I don't like getting into wars of words because everything gets taken out of context and crazy things get said, and nobody knows what's going on or what the other means.....yeah, no good ever comes from it.

Like, do I understand how you could like the ending or how it makes sense to you?

In all honesty, I can't think of one logical explaination

But I'm not going to bash you for how you feel about it.....

Though I do on occasion, bash the ending itself....

Well, that's rather difficult. Let's see

I think the most important point is to accept the fact, that the ending right now (EC might change that) is pretty sad. I admit a part of me was hoping for an actuall happy ending with blue children and all that, but after some time I actually started to like Shepards sacrifice. I see his death as a new beginning and not as an end.
Same with the Normandy scene. Yes, it makes no sense that your ground crew is onboard and that the Normandy seems(EC) to flee. But these issues aside, I can actually appreciate the Normandy scene as a new start for the galaxy. Shepard died, so that his/her loved ones (Normandy) can live on.
I also think the future in the ME Universe won't be as grim as some here imagine (no trade etc..) and I also don't necessarily need an epilogue. I liked them in DA, but I also have a thing for this uncertain future in ME.
The thing with the Catalyst, that's too complicated to explain in a few words. If you're interested, there is a good discussion about that in this section called "The Catalyst is Right [or How I Learned to Trust the Writers]".

Anyway, I know there are a lot of reasons NOT to like the ending and I'm not happy either that we only got three different explosions in the end (and other things). But in general I'm fine with the ending, I'm not particularly fond of it, but I certainly don't hate it.

Yeah I agree with that.


Note: I'm not indoctrinated, Geth or whatever other baseless accusation might be thrown my way for not screaming "treachery" at the ending.

[o Ventus]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

 I would honestly like to hear why some of ya defend the endings?

There are even people who like Uwe Boll movies.

Oh come on, the ending wasn't THAT bad X_X

No, it really was.

[Star fury]

1. Trolls.
2. Trolls.
3. People who tend to always go against majority, non-conformists.

[Leafs43]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

To answer your question OP, they enjoyed the ending. Simple as that. Some may be over passionate because of the sheer amount of anti ending thread here. Some people thought it was genuinely good. Sorry for jackin' your thread.

Thank ya for calling Leaf out.

No prob.

People who believe in Thor are dumb.


Problem?

[Mcfly616]

dr_age86 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

No need to apologize. I wasn't offended. I was just defusing a situation before it occurred, while also expressing how I see things.....I don't like getting into wars of words because everything gets taken out of context and crazy things get said, and nobody knows what's going on or what the other means.....yeah, no good ever comes from it.

Like, do I understand how you could like the ending or how it makes sense to you?

In all honesty, I can't think of one logical explaination

But I'm not going to bash you for how you feel about it.....

Though I do on occasion, bash the ending itself....

Well, that's rather difficult. Let's see

I think the most important point is to accept the fact, that the ending right now (EC might change that) is pretty sad. I admit a part of me was hoping for an actuall happy ending with blue children and all that, but after some time I actually started to like Shepards sacrifice. I see his death as a new beginning and not as an end.
Same with the Normandy scene. Yes, it makes no sense that your ground crew is onboard and that the Normandy seems(EC) to flee. But these issues aside, I can actually appreciate the Normandy scene as a new start for the galaxy. Shepard died, so that his/her loved ones (Normandy) can live on.
I also think the future in the ME Universe won't be as grim as some here imagine (no trade etc..) and I also don't necessarily need an epilogue. I liked them in DA, but I also have a thing for this uncertain future in ME.
The thing with the Catalyst, that's too complicated to explain in a few words. If you're interested, there is a good discussion about that in this section called "The Catalyst is Right [or How I Learned to Trust the Writers]".

Anyway, I know there are a lot of reasons NOT to like the ending and I'm not happy either that we only got three different explosions in the end (and other things). But in general I'm fine with the ending, I'm not particularly fond of it, but I certainly don't hate it.

Gotcha....I see where you're coming from....

I think our different views on the ending, derive from the fact that those things you can "look passed" that occur in the ending.....and I find them too big to overlook

[Leafs43]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

To answer your question OP, they enjoyed the ending. Simple as that. Some may be over passionate because of the sheer amount of anti ending thread here. Some people thought it was genuinely good. Sorry for jackin' your thread.

Thank ya for calling Leaf out.

No prob.

People who believe in Thor are dumb.


Problem?

Like I said, you're trying too hard.

On the contrary, I am barely trying.


If you insist on me trying.....


People who think Earth is 6000 years old, don;t believe in "evilution" because all people came from Adam and Eve are dumb.  Citing dinosaurs and how people evolved into different ethicities are a "test of faith".


Problem?

Modifié par Leafs43, 18 juin 2012 - 09:02 .

[Johnny Exogenesis]

Because people have different opinions... and your opinion isn't better than other people's opinions and vice versa... so people don't have to agree with your opinion, and you don't have to agree with their's. You have the right to expose your opinion to the world as do they have the right to expose theirs, and if there is disagreement between both parties, both have the rights to defend their opinion and if any of the parties has good arguments, it can bring the other party to agreement or at least undersanding of one's opinion.
I liked the ending, (even though I was hoping for my Sheppard to have an happy ending with his LI), so after I ended the game I saw some videos a read posts of people who didn't like it, most of them were mindless bashing, but in one particular video there were good arguments which brought me understanding of why some people don't like it, and I agree that there are plot holes and stuff that should be fixed in the ending, but I will never be bashing and asking Bioware to change the ending, because the story isn't mine, I didn't take part in the writting, I didn't ask nor pay them to do the game this way or that way, I bought the game after it was finished and asking them to change the ending or any part of the story is like asking a book writter to change the story of his book, bacause I didn't like it. But if the book has many errors or is missing pages when you buy it, you can report it and you'll get a "fixed" book.

[TransientNomad]

Few reason's OP. One, there is the small (judging by the dozens of polls I have seen on this sight and others, is somewhere between 2 to 10% with about 20% stating that the ending just needs more exposition) that truly enjoyed the ending as is. Some simply enjoyed the shooter aspects of it. Story wasn't very important to them. More power to them.

Others are still swooning over Bioware and they can see no wrong despite it being thrust in front of them. I truly understand this group as I belonged to it during the Dragon Age 2 controversy. I simply couldn't see what people were upset about, even with bad design and mechanics staring me in the face. Back then, to me, Bioware simply did not screw up. Funny, ME3's ending has made me reevaluate DA2, and now even that is unplayable to me. Another sad part of this group is that they would have liked ANYTHING Bioware put out, but they will still rage against those that feel we could have had a better ending.

Others headcanon (to varying degrees) the details of the endings, often ignoring logic and past canon to make the endings into something they are not. While part of my admires their use of imagination, this group scoffs at those that don't like it stating they just don't "get it," even when their logic is torn apart, and their headcanon is exposed to be just that... a meaningless fan-fiction.

Others like the ending for its "artistic value," citing, essentially, that the true reason the endings are great is precisely because they do not make logical sense, To them, then endings were not supposed to make sense, because they had a deeper meaning. Its hard to argue with these people because they scoff at anyone that brings logic and/or continuity into the debate.

Still others defend it through a sort of validation of themselves. They see the active majority dislike the ending, so they will take the stance that they love it. They will go so far as to convince themselves that they love it. In other words, you have your hipsters.

Another group will focus on liking one aspect of the ending, and ignoring everything else. For example I have a friend that says he likes the ending. I asked him why, and he told me it was because Sheperd died. That was his only reason. He believed the hero must always die, and the ending reinforced his belief. It should be mentioned that my friend is clinically depressed, but you get the point.

[Joe Del Toro]

Leafs is like a sexual offender-looking 45 year old man who's turned up at a house party to try and be cool. We're not laughing with him, we are laughing at him.

[Leafs43]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

Leafs is like a sexual offender-looking 45 year old man who's turned up at a house party to try and be cool. We're not laughing with him, we are laughing at him.

You can laugh at me, but it's your jimmies in my hand.

[Joe Del Toro]

See? Sexual offender.

[Mcfly616]

Also.....an open ended, vague/ambiguous conclusion has no place as the finale of a trilogy. Let alone Mass Effect.....I can't even think of a trilogy with such an ending....

Those endings really only work with a standalone title or the middle part of a trilogy(because there's still another act to tie things up)


Notice Inception's ending received rave reviews.....notice the backlash caused by ME3's ending.....that type of ending never had a place in Mass Effect

[Leafs43]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

See? Sexual offender.

If I am a sexual offendor, does that mean I am following in Muhammend's footsteps?

[Joe Del Toro]

Leafs43 wrote...

Joe Del Toro wrote...

See? Sexual offender.

If I am a sexual offendor, does that mean I am following in Muhammend's footsteps?

Means you can't spell.

[Leafs43]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Now you're trying harder.

lol.

It's just basic source material.


It's very easy to find retarded material in religion.

[Joe Del Toro]

And in your posts, too.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

i always thought people who "liked" the ending were people were either new to mass effect, didnt care that much ( aka just a game ), trolls, and finally the ones in denial

[Leafs43]

Joe Del Toro wrote...

And in your posts, too.

I must have hit a nerve.


Simple comments create such ire.  

Your anger fuels me!