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[Angelo2027]

Icemix wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mmm... "no more" prequels certainly implies that there have been prequels in the past, which would be why you would not want more in the future. We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it) for any of our games. Are there prequl games in particular that you dislike that, maybe, you are confusing with our games?

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Details?

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

Why would we want to be told a story of which we already know the ending to. The humans use new relays, the turians open fire on them, the alliance shoots back, the council steps in and stops them both. The End.
If you do anything other than progressing the story further, I am almost 100% certain its going to be a massive failure.

THIS.

[jtrook]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mmm... "no more" prequels certainly implies that there have been prequels in the past, which would be why you would not want more in the future. We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it) for any of our games. Are there prequl games in particular that you dislike that, maybe, you are confusing with our games?

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Details?

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

I would love to go to the first contact war as maybe as an FPS or RTS. I would also like to see the Rachni Wars or Krogan Rebelions be a game

[Big I]

I could see a prequel working if the game had the RPG story elements taken out of it (decision making, optional character interaction). Not every game has to allow the player input into how the story plays out, like Inflitrator or Galaxy. However were such a mass effect game to be made I'll not be playing it. My interest is in RPGs.


Any future RPGs set in the ME franchise should be set after ME3. To do otherwise is to decrease player agency and buy in because players would feel too constrained in their decision making. Many people have little interest in making story choices if the ending is significantly the same no matter what,

[Han Shot First]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mmm... "no more" prequels certainly implies that there have been prequels in the past, which would be why you would not want more in the future. We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it) for any of our games. Are there prequl games in particular that you dislike that, maybe, you are confusing with our games?

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Details?

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

While your post was addressed to the OP, I hope you don't mind me throwing my 2 credits in.

I hope that no serious consideration is ever given to developing a sequel. While I'd love to see another Mass Effect game, I think it is much better to move forward in the timeline rather than backwards.

The problem with prequel settings is that a player who has experienced the Shepard trilogy already knows how the First Contact War or the Krogan Rebellions end. That leaves very little room for either the writers to pull off suprises or for the player's choices to have any impact on the game world.  Using the First Contact War as an example, it already has a canon ending where the Council steps in before the Turians drop the hammer. A game set in the First Contact War would either need to have predetermined ending that the player is expecting or have player choices retcon previously established canon, neither of which is appealing.

The other problem with prequel settings as it relates to Mass Effect, is that by default you are dealing with a smaller galaxy. If you set the game during the First Contact War for example, that conflict just involves humans and Turians. If you set it during the Rachni Wars, contact hasn't been made yet with either the humans or the Turians.

For those reasons I think it is better to move forward in the timeline. Plus, it would be more fun to see how choices made in previous games (ME1 through ME3) have affected the game world.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 19 juin 2012 - 01:01 .

[shadowkinz]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mmm... "no more" prequels certainly implies that there have been prequels in the past, which would be why you would not want more in the future. We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it) for any of our games. Are there prequl games in particular that you dislike that, maybe, you are confusing with our games?

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Details?

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

Hey sorry, had to go to an orientation for my new job ..

Well kotor games, but we don't have to count that bc they were from too many years ago.  Also i wasn't referring to ONLY bioware games; my apologies if that wasn't clear.  It just seems that nowadays game companies tend to come out with prequels as a kind of smaller scale "reboot."

But specifically i meant SWTOR in terms of bioware.

Dues ex: HR, Halo: reach (i believe), Perfect Dark, a bunch of Resident Evils, God of War: Ascension, Gears of War: Judgement, COD: Black Ops (tho not really a prequel.. still)..  There are so many more but a lot of them are 2000-2005, and since i was fair to exclude KoToR, i will exclude them too.  Perfect dark was pushing it but it was on the 360 so i included it. There are also a lot of them that are slipping my mind at the moment.  I don't think my examples were too good, but it just seems prequels a sort of trend.

Then there is the "happening simultaneously" thing that i dunno if i'm on the fence about it, or against it (read: crysis warhead and many others).  Obviously, Shepard is not Bruce Willis, and will actually retire one day to a life absent of explosions.  I fully expect that in a game taking place after the events of ME3 that i won't be playing shepard (and in an MMO, obviously that wouldn't be the case anyway).  However in an MMO, i would like it to take place after the events of ME3 (i have ideas but i cannot say them here b/c spoilers are not allowed)

Oh and very importantly, i am not mad or pointing fingers or anything like that.. Literally speaking, i am actually PLEADING =).. i really hate the idea of prequels, i feel like it's old news b/c we know what will happen.  I like the intrigue and mystery of knowing that there is a future out there for my game and stuff.  It makes me nervous thinking that if we get an MEMMO (prounced MEEEEEmOH! like nemo!! ), ther eis a chance it could be a prequel.  I know i need to get out more since that actually bothers me, but i love the franchise and don't want it to go that route. 

Basically if it goes that route, i would have felt like crap if i hadn't at least voiced my concern hehe.  And yes, all merely speculation and stuff, i know it's hard for you guys to post without creating tornados xD

[shadowkinz]

And again, sorry guys it took me a while to respond... Real life was all like HEYYYY OVER HERE =(

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Chris Priestly wrote...

you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO

Only if you want to lose the argument, it was released, what, five years or more before the MMO?

Chris Priestly wrote...
Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians

Absolutely!!! An RTS prequel would work very well - Council vs Rachni; Council vs Krogan; Turian vs Human; Human vs Batarian; Everyone vs Reapers.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? 

I absolutely do not want a prequel game based around the First Contact War or any other any other historical event since the foundation of the Reaper's cycle.

The Reapers trashing the galaxy for the first time?  I would play.  The proto-Catalyst building the first Reaper?  I would play.  The Asari exploring the Citadel for the first time?  I would play.  There is wonder in those scenarios, there is mystery in them.  That makes entertaining sci-fi,

The First Contact War would be good for a movie, or pure Modern Warfare style FPS.  I'd watch that movie, I 'd buy that game.  But I know how it ends.  I'm not going to get tied up in an RPG that explores the experiences of one dude or one chick in the middle of the conflict.  Because I know how it ends.

Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

The Shepard is dead.  Long live The Shepard!  Tell me what comes next.  I grew up on campfire stories so for me the best stories are always campfire stories, and the best campfire stores need plenty of "And THEN.....!"  So "And Then" us, please.  Let's see what comes next.

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

But... but...  look at my sig...  :?

[Bluko]

Uh OP what "Prequels" are you talking about? The only thing Mass Effect related that is prequel material thus far is like the books and comics. And majority of them take place during the trilogy timeline so at the most they are really just filler material. That said I think you are correct in assuming any new Mass Effect game will be an MMO. I also believe EA is intent on transitioning Bioware to be just an MMO developer since they seem to be of the belief MMOs are the only legitimate medium for RPGs. And well trying to make action games has not really resonated with the fanbase.

All things considered though a Mass Effect MMO pretty much has to take place before or during ME3. It cannot happen after as well... the fictional universe is pretty radically changed at the end of ME3. Though I suppose the Extended Cut could change that. It simply isn't feasible unless they seriously want to rewrite events and establish a canon. Which would make the current series an even bigger joke then it is right now.

There are three ideal time periods for an Mass Effect MMO to take then.

1. After the First Contact War with Humans intergrating into Galactic Society (IMO the best time period)
2. After the Collector Attack where Shepard is dead for 2 years
3. Pre-Human Contact (Rachni War, Krogan Rebellions, etc.)

Chris Priestly wrote...

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Uh the First Contact War would make a pretty bad setting for an MMO. It might be okay for an Action RPG... but who would be the protagonist? Anderson? Saren? Another random Alliance Marine Super-Hero? Though if I know EA/Bioware I would not be surprised if they just did a straight up shooter. Seems to be the route we're going.

Only problem is the FCW wasn't really a war. It was a minor skirmish involving a Turian Patrol Fleet and the fledgling Human Fleet. Casualities were pretty low too by the way with each side only losing a few hundred personnel. That wouldn't be good for a game where every mission will likely having you slaughtering dozens of NPCs. But I would not be surprised if Bioware got out the retcon pen and magically had thermal clips everywhere and turn the FCW into the Battle of Okinawa... IN SPACE! Heck get a 20 Killstreak slaughtering endless waves of Turian Soliders and you unlock an orbitable strike! WOO YEAH AWESOME!!!
<_<

Now I could be wrong... but who exactly has been clamoring for a game featuring the FCW? I know people have suggested that for a movie setting, but I have not seen many posts from folks here actually wanting such. At least not in sufficient numbers to justify as really being desired by most of the fanbase.

[ItsTheTruth]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it)

No you can't argue that, because KotOR was realeased long before TOR: TOR is the sequel.

[Feixeno]

I'd prefer if the mass effect series went into the future where the galactic community has recovered enough to function, and the terminus systems form their own government in opposition to the council space.

[M920CAIN]

If future ME games have autodialogue it won't matter if they are prequels or sequels. They'll still be sucky.

[Olueq]

ItsTheTruth wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it)

No you can't argue that, because KotOR was realeased long before TOR: TOR is the sequel.

LOL:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Ghost]

spyro396 wrote...

I am not a fan of prequels, they are overdone in all the great series. remember halo reach, that was a piece of poop

Halo Reach > Halo ODST

[Olueq]

Ghost1017 wrote...

spyro396 wrote...

I am not a fan of prequels, they are overdone in all the great series. remember halo reach, that was a piece of poop

Halo Reach > Halo ODST

Everything is better than ODST. It was an expansion for the price of a game.

Modifié par Olueq, 19 juin 2012 - 02:19 .

[dreman9999]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mmm... "no more" prequels certainly implies that there have been prequels in the past, which would be why you would not want more in the future. We have not made a prequel to a game (I will admit you can argue that KotOR was a prequel to the MMO, but that was not the intention at the time of making it) for any of our games. Are there prequl games in particular that you dislike that, maybe, you are confusing with our games?

Fans in the past have said they would actually WANT a game that takes place prior to the story of Mass Effect , possibly  centered around teh First Contact War between humand and turians. Would that NOT be something you would want? Or do you mean, you do not want a prequel game if it featured Commander Shepard specifically (like the recent film reboot of Star Trek for example).

Details?

Oh, and we have not confirmed ANY post Mass Effect 3 games, whether they are prequels or not. This is all just speculation at this point.

How about during the 2 year Shep was dead...The Ideas I have...

[CmndrFisher]

NO MMO's in the future please!...you can give us prequels, sequels, any amount of DLC's, but please, please keep what ever you release, Bioware, keep it to single player.

Modifié par CmndrFisher, 19 juin 2012 - 04:29 .

[KevTheGamer]

Honestly I am interested to see what will happen next in the me universe but it is weird to think about ME without Shepard

[Seryl]

I don't know if I'm in the minority here or not, I'f find a prequel Mass Effect set during the first contact war to be interesting.

Specifically, a game that alternates between two view points. One of those viewpoints would be a soldier serving at Shanxi under the command of General Williams. The other viewpoint would be of another soldier that struck back at the Turians when the Alliance Second Fleet jumped in.

If done properly, I'd play that game.

EDIT: I also wouldn't mind a game featuring Anderson. Showing the missions he led, leading up to the disaster he had with Saren would also be entertaining.

EDIT: I'd also like a game set in the Quarian Morning War ....... this universe has to much lore that could form its own title.

Modifié par Seryl, 19 juin 2012 - 04:41 .

[Soaringeagle78]

Mass Effect prequel-----attitude=neutral
Mass Effect MMO--------attitude=no

[AlanC9]

Bluko wrote...
Only problem is the FCW wasn't really a war. It was a minor skirmish involving a Turian Patrol Fleet and the fledgling Human Fleet. Casualities were pretty low too by the way with each side only losing a few hundred personnel. That wouldn't be good for a game where every mission will likely having you slaughtering dozens of NPCs. But I would not be surprised if Bioware got out the retcon pen and magically had thermal clips everywhere and turn the FCW into the Battle of Okinawa... IN SPACE! Heck get a 20 Killstreak slaughtering endless waves of Turian Soliders and you unlock an orbitable strike! WOO YEAH AWESOME!!!

Yeah, pretty much this. There just isn't that much war there.

[Whole Particle]

I wouldn't mind a reboot of the ME3 ending.

[Redbelle]

AlanC9 wrote...

Bluko wrote...
Only problem is the FCW wasn't really a war. It was a minor skirmish involving a Turian Patrol Fleet and the fledgling Human Fleet. Casualities were pretty low too by the way with each side only losing a few hundred personnel. That wouldn't be good for a game where every mission will likely having you slaughtering dozens of NPCs. But I would not be surprised if Bioware got out the retcon pen and magically had thermal clips everywhere and turn the FCW into the Battle of Okinawa... IN SPACE! Heck get a 20 Killstreak slaughtering endless waves of Turian Soliders and you unlock an orbitable strike! WOO YEAH AWESOME!!!

Yeah, pretty much this. There just isn't that much war there.

Instead of going back to tell stories that already happened in ME lore, it should be possible, with the destruction of the relays and galactic dark age, to remove contact with all species for 10,000 years, thus when they meet each other again you could have the modern day equivilent of the Krogan rebellion/Turian war. humans could play the role of the race that is spoken about only in myth. The other races could twist the stories to make Shepard one of their species etc etc.

I'd prefer going forward than back as going back risks the structural foundation of the ME universe while going forward will add a new chapter. Not clarify previous short descriptions of events.

[FlamingBoy]

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