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[Volus Warlord]

You should be happy it's that low! The game companies are actually being generous!

[rwilli80]

Games are only worth what the consumer gets out of them. The companies can throw any price tag they want, but its up to the consumer to think its a price they are willing to pay. But also the companies are also aware that they can't just make the price to high to price out their base consumer.

[RedArmyShogun]

*shrugs* what else is new? Some titles are some arn't. You just bought alot of questionable titlles. Happens to some of us, I've wised up a bit and only a few titles will I spend alot of cash on. Like Halo 4.

[Cimeas]

Obviously you don't understand. A $60 game might include, if it has a substantial single player campaign, 30-40 hours of gameplay. If not, for example Call of Duty, it's main feature is the multiplayer, designed to be played for a long period of time.

Do you know how much a book costs nowadays? About $12 for a paperback. And you know what, if you count the total reading time (not all the time you *think* you were reading, it probably takes you about 6 or 7 hours to read.

Do you have any idea how much going to watch a movie costs? About $12-$16 (not including snacks/popcorn/drinks etc..) for 1.5-2 HOURS of entertainment. And the movie, just like a game, might be terrible.

So most games are *amazingly* good value, and as long as you buy games with good critical *and* user reviews, you'll rarely, if ever, not enjoy what you purchase.

Gaming is cheaper than going out to a restaurant, than going bowling, than watching a movie, than going to a bar/pub, than read many books, than renting/buying most movies online, than going shopping, going on holiday, doing drugs, or any number of other uses of your spare time.

So, why is it bad value.....

[android654]

Are you comparing the value of books to video games?

[naughty99]

When you take inflation into consideration, games have never been cheaper than they are today.



In 1990, new NES games ranged from $39.95-49.95

$39.95 in 1990 had the same buying power as $71.50 in 2012. $49.95 in 1990 was equivalent to $89.39 in 2012 dollars. Quite a few old PC games from the early 1980s were even more expensive.

Soverain wrote...

Another thing is that I will never again buy a game as it is released, I will wait for the price to drop then buy it.

Certainly nothing wrong with that approach. And even here you will find much better deals that what was available in the past.

I don't recall ever seeing recent games on sale for $5-10, as you can often find great games on sale via Steam, Impulse, GamersGate, Amazon and Origin.

In the old days a game would have to be either incredibly old or incredibly bad to get that low in price from a secondhand store.

Modifié par naughty99, 18 juin 2012 - 09:06 .

[deuce985]

The current market kinda backs your claims.

indie/social/tablet gaming is becoming more popular than ever. People are getting as much fun in a $5 game as $60, so they're not buying as many $60 games anymore. The craze for action games is dwindling down. The market is saturated with too many games that feel similar. That's another reason indie/social/tablet is booming. It's very different than what you can get in a $60 game on PS3/360. No matter how niche or how much nostalgia it strikes into players. Games with nostalgia can become fresh experiences if you've been playing the same games for a few years.

Max Payne 3 is already considered a flop because it sold way under expectations. More proof people are getting sick of generic action games unless you're a very well established franchise like Call of Duty...

Modifié par deuce985, 18 juin 2012 - 09:52 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Soverain wrote...

I will never buy a game for $60USD or the full price in my country which includes shipping ever again,

I have bought a few games and have discovered they are not worth the price, the free copies I get are not worth the full price,
only a few games on the market such as Max Payne 3 are worth the $60US, however I will never buy a game for that price no matter how good the game is.

Game companies who answer to big publishers are not making games of the great quality I expect, quality in graphics, controls and most important story telling, most only have average and cliche quality and are no longer worth $60
I will buy a game for no more than $40

Whats are your views people?

Just consider yourself lucky that it's only $60. Here in Australia, we have to pay almost double that, most new games cost around $100-120 and both the AUD and USD are roughly the same in strength.
I wish they cost $60. rwill is correct, they're worth how much fun you get out of them. It might be worth doing some research before buying new games(reviews etc.). I always do that when I'm curious or unsure about a game.

Modifié par Andarthiel_Demigod, 18 juin 2012 - 10:00 .

[termokanden]

I think very few games are worth that much, but some are.

I'll never regret paying full price for a good game.

Modifié par termokanden, 19 juin 2012 - 08:06 .

[Seagloom]

I sort of agree? It is not that $60 games are not worth it. It is that most games are not worth $60 to me personally. Actually, most $50 games are not worth it. I have taken to waiting as long as a year to buy games at drastically reduced prices unless I really want them. The last title I paid full price for that was worth its $50 was Saints Row: The Third. Buying it was a gamble I rarely take these days.

On the other hand, the high price of games is hardly unsurprising considering what development costs are like these days. I can't really blame publishers charging $50+ for a new AAA title. I just won't usually pay those prices either.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Soverain wrote...

confess a bear dont be too hastey to by halo 4 until you see reviews and gameplay for yourself, I wanted to buy ME3 then found out it was a disappointment and not worth it, I bought Mass Effect 2 and it was worth it, Mass Effect 3 makes the previous 2 games all for nothing for me!

So when Halo 4 is released pls dont buy it immediately, the hype is an obvious marketing ploy to make you buy too soon!

Halo 4 already has an established story-line (based on the books) though and the gameplay is pretty like Halo Reach's gameplay but even more improved with new additions. Buying a game on day one is not always a mistake. Being hyped up for said game is a mistake.

Also I generally avoid games with campaigns that last 5 hours. I want proper content and value for my money. So I'm always careful when buying a game and always check to see how much content it offers.

Most games at full price haven't been worth it for a long time. Where have you been?

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 18 juin 2012 - 10:36 .

[RedArmyShogun]

Soverain wrote...

confess a bear dont be too hastey to by halo 4 until you see reviews and gameplay for yourself, I wanted to buy ME3 then found out it was a disappointment and not worth it, I bought Mass Effect 2 and it was worth it, Mass Effect 3 makes the previous 2 games all for nothing for me!

So when Halo 4 is released pls dont buy it immediately, the hype is an obvious marketing ploy to make you buy too soon!

Well two things.

One the warning signs were there for ME3 when a creator hypes a game and "changes" for the better, it often will be crap. Which ME3 was endings aside imo.

Halo 4 I happen to like what I'm seeing and I've seen plenty. ME3 I was warry of from the start.

And its my money to do with as I please. Not yours. Its hardly my fault you made a bad purchase now question them all.

It happens to us all, if that will keep you from buying all games you might want to find a new hobby because short of a crash or waiting several months or in some cases years, the prices won't go down.

[Ghost Lightning]

there are some games worth that much. The problem is when you play a great game that would be fine priced at over $60 and then play a not so great game and realize you got a product of inferior quality and polish but still payed the same price. And what I mean by that is, how good a game is is completely opinion based, but there are games that are glitchy, that crash, that have low production values, etc. But they are still the same price. I doubt it costed the same money and effort for the developer Team Tachyon to develop the abysmal "Quantum Theory" as it did for Bethesda to develop TES V Skyrim, and that shows in the quality of those games, yet they both retailed for the same price initially. And that doesn't seem very fair.

[Savber100]

Don't buy games that aren't worth it and buy games that are. If you want to buy a game but don't think it's $60 price-worthy, wait till price drops.

There... was that too hard?

[AtreiyaN7]

Any game that I actually like is worth the $60 that I pay for it.

EDIT: Noticed that the poster up above said Max Payne 3 was supposedly a flop. The "flop" claim, as I understand it, was because at launch it only sold 440k initially (possibly in part due to launching at the same time as Diablo III). It's at around 800,000 units sold atm (http://www.vgchartz....y/41070/Global/). I actually enjoyed it and am still enjoying it even now, so in this case at least, it was worth the money.

Got Diablo 3 for free, but I ended up getting the CE for the extras. It was worth it too, but I'm really burned out on D3 atm. I dread the idea of either farming Act I on Inferno or attempting Act II on Inferno solo atm. The regular (white) mobs were a colossal pain in the butt.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 19 juin 2012 - 03:26 .

[Cutlass Jack]

If I buy a game for $60 and get 100+ hours of playtime out of it, its easilly worth every penny. (Dragon's Dogma a recent example) That same price on a game that I get less than 10 hours of playtime out of is an entirely different story. But in most cases its pretty easy to tell which extreme a game will lean towards.

But I have no particular objection to a $60 price tag. Even in that 10 hour example above, its still a better value per hour of entertainment than going to a movie.

[Maria Caliban]

Cimeas wrote...

Do you know how much a book costs nowadays? About $12 for a paperback.

A mass market paperback is usually not $12. You may be thinking of a trade paperback, which typically comes out before a mass market paperback would and tends to be of a higher quality.

I could likewise point out that there are hundreds of books I can download on my Kindle for about $4.99 with specials at $0.99.

[naughty99]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

But I have no particular objection to a $60 price tag. Even in that 10 hour example above, its still a better value per hour of entertainment than going to a movie.

An hour of entertainment is certainly an hour of entertainment; however going to the cinema or a concert is quite a different experience from playing a game. For example, would you value a social excursion with friends or a date more highly than hours of entertainment provided by a game? 

I think when we look at pricing for games, we tend to compare it with the pricing and entertainment value derived from other games we've purchased in the past.

If the OP mentions he plans to wait for games to buy them on sale, rather than at release, this reflects a downward trend in price points for games, spurred by deep discount sales and some of the lowest prices we've seen in many years. On some level, there is a lower perceived value for games among consumers these days.

Adjusted for inflation, $60 is significantly cheaper than the initial MSRPs for games from 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Personally, I buy a few games each year at full price, but I wait for most to go on sale in the $5-10 range.

Modifié par naughty99, 19 juin 2012 - 04:12 .

[Jestina]

Prices have gone up and quality has plummeted in games.