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[Bad King]

In Mass Effect 2:



Seems this was retconned in Mass Effect 3. It's interesting to note this however:

www.youtube.com/watch

The hologram clearly displays a different reaper design like one of the ones from the last scene in Mass Effect 2. The hologram seen at the Cerberus Lab on Sanctum implies that BioWare did have other models for reapers but decided to scrap them. I wonder why BioWare decided to scrap the diverse fleet we saw in ME2 in favour of a fleet of sovereign clones.

Modifié par Bad King, 18 juin 2012 - 08:52 .

[iggy4566]

Yeah they should of shown more types on screen.

Modifié par iggy4566, 18 juin 2012 - 08:55 .

[o Ventus]

I was really looking forward to seeing that scarab beetle-looking Reaper.

[arial]

it takes less processing power to copy the same model for all reapers then to create and implement a unique model for each.

[LucasShark]

Same story with most species' ships honestly: particularly Geth ships which I find disappointing.

[I.leary]

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

[o Ventus]

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

Those aren't Reapers.

[Bad King]

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

That's true, but at the end of ME2 we see what appear to be capital ships similar in size to Harbinger with various different designs (such as the scarab reaper) whereas capital ships in ME3 all look identical (apart from Harbinger).

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

wouldve made more sense with the whole human reaper thing >_>

[lillitheris]

I’m glad that there’s at least one thing they’re not artificially stuffing with nonsensical diversifications.

There’s a reason why all tanks have a box, another box on top of it, and a turret sticking out of it.

Etc.

Modifié par lillitheris, 18 juin 2012 - 09:04 .

[Bad King]

lillitheris wrote...

I’m glad that there’s at least one thing they’re not artificially stuffing with nonsensical diversifications.

There’s a reason why all tanks have a box, another box on top of it, and a turret sticking out of it.

Etc.

But are you not disturbed by the glaring retcon?

[I.leary]

o Ventus wrote...

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

Those aren't Reapers.

According to the codex, they are not self-aware. But does that mean they are not Reapers (i.e. half-organic, half-machine, made by harvesting other species, etc)? 

In any case, even if not Reapers, can't they be the weird looking ships of which Cerberus have the blueprints? They are sure classified as Reapers by the  citadel races (again, according to the codex)

[o Ventus]

I.leary wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

Those aren't Reapers.

According to the codex, they are not self-aware. But does that mean they are not Reapers (i.e. half-organic, half-machine, made by harvesting other species, etc)? 

In any case, even if not Reapers, can't they be the weird looking ships of which Cerberus have the blueprints? They are sure classified as Reapers by the  citadel races (again, according to the codex)

1 primary species is harvested into a Capital Ship.

Every other "minor" species is harvested into a Destroyer.

That's how I know they aren't Reapers.

[I.leary]

Bad King wrote...

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

That's true, but at the end of ME2 we see what appear to be capital ships similar in size to Harbinger with various different designs (such as the scarab reaper) whereas capital ships in ME3 all look identical (apart from Harbinger).

The codex also says that troop transports could be up to 1km long, half the side of capital ships, but  almost 10 times bigger than destroyers. 

That said, I'm sure it was more of a case of economy of resources than fidelity with the lore...

[Leafs43]

Could be the other reaper shapes are reaping in areas of the galaxy you don't see.

[I.leary]

o Ventus wrote...

I.leary wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I.leary wrote...

It's mentioned in the codex that there are a few types of reapers besides the Destroyer and Harbinger classes. They are responsible for other functions, though (one of them is a sort of husk transport or something). Who knows, maybe they'll show up in future DLC

Those aren't Reapers.

According to the codex, they are not self-aware. But does that mean they are not Reapers (i.e. half-organic, half-machine, made by harvesting other species, etc)? 

In any case, even if not Reapers, can't they be the weird looking ships of which Cerberus have the blueprints? They are sure classified as Reapers by the  citadel races (again, according to the codex)

1 primary species is harvested into a Capital Ship.

Every other "minor" species is harvested into a Destroyer.

That's how I know they aren't Reapers.

I'm sure curious to know how those pseudo-reapers are made, though. Maybe if they ever make an appearance we'll find out.

[fainmaca]

I don't like the idea of 'Sovereign' and 'Destroyer' class reapers, really. In my mind, all reapers are the same size, with small variations depending on origin species. I just don't think it fits to make smaller versions of the Reapers (other than an obvious attempt to make one you can take on on foot, although even then you don't get to kill the first two, and the other two are just lame). I won't even get into sending just one of the tiddlers to an important objective like the hub that enslaves an ENTIRE SYNTHETIC SPECIES or the machine that will bring the Krogan into the war, when its implied that there are thousands of the buggers.

[Yaos]

"We are each a nation"
Such an original antagonist scrapped for what is another bad alien cliché :/
Yes, ME1 kinda point out that each reaper have a personality a complex mind of his own. Sovereign is mistaken for a ship, before we learn that he is an entity on his own. Terrifying.
In ME3 it's more like they're all mindless ships commanded by starbrat. Even Harbinger doesn't have a single line.

[spirosz]

It's easier just to copy and paste.

It's easier just to copy and paste.

It's easier just to copy and paste.

[Jamie9]

I hate to say laziness and lack of resources, but laziness and lack of resources.

[I.leary]

Yaos wrote...

"We are each a nation"
Such an original antagonist scrapped for what is another bad alien cliché :/
Yes, ME1 kinda point out that each reaper have a personality a complex mind of his own. Sovereign is mistaken for a ship, before we learn that he is an entity on his own. Terrifying.
In ME3 it's more like they're all mindless ships commanded by starbrat. Even Harbinger doesn't have a single line.

I think something like that was unavoidable, however. Nothing terrifies most than that which is unknown. Start giving too much detail and it gets familiar, it has to be adapted to suit game mechanics (eg. smaller ships so that Shepard could take one on foot) and ends up having its references made obvious. 
And while Harbinger never speaks, Shepard does talk to a Reaper, if only briefly.

[Jamie9]

I.leary wrote...

I think something like that was unavoidable, however. Nothing terrifies most than that which is unknown. Start giving too much detail and it gets familiar, it has to be adapted to suit game mechanics (eg. smaller ships so that Shepard could take one on foot) and ends up having its references made obvious. 
And while Harbinger never speaks, Shepard does talk to a Reaper, if only briefly.

I like to think that Sovereign truly did think that organics were worthless (for whatever reason), but that he was compelled by his programming to follow the Catalyst's orders.

Whereas Harbinger is following them to build Reapers, Sovereign enjoyed wiping people out.

[Ticonderoga117]

spiros9110 wrote...

It's easier just to copy and paste.

It's easier just to copy and paste.

It's easier just to copy and paste.

Also, it would take time creating the art for the new reapers that would remove time needed to create the "art" they wanted.

[I.leary]

Jamie9 wrote...

I like to think that Sovereign truly did think that organics were worthless (for whatever reason), but that he was compelled by his programming to follow the Catalyst's orders.

Whereas Harbinger is following them to build Reapers, Sovereign enjoyed wiping people out.

He was the vanguard of the horde, so maybe it was expected of him to spread horror upon the organics. Like the "This is Madness!" guy from 300. Giving the right proportions, of course.

You could argue he was chosen for the task precisely for his temper, if you believe they have unique personalities

[Jamie9]

I.leary wrote...
He was the vanguard of the horde, so maybe it was expected of him to spread horror upon the organics. Like the "This is Madness!" guy from 300. Giving the right proportions, of course.

You could argue he was chosen for the task precisely for his temper, if you believe they have unique personalities

I only choose to believe they have unique personalities because the alternative ruins the antagonist of ME1. Stupid BioWare. My interpretation keeps ME1 and ME3.

Also, I can now imagine Sovereign kicking planets into black holes shouting "This is Reapers!". Thanks for that image.