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[rockinfuxstar]

I've completed the Honnleath quest (as far as I can tell, I got Shale and killed everything in the basement, went to the peak, scaled the dragon and got the ashes) however, it still is highlight and flashing on my map of Ferelden - could I have missed something? I went back and there's nothing to do, everything's empy, and I talk to Shale and nothing new comes up. Anyone else have this glitch?



Also, Alistair's approval is just over the half way mark, and Leiliana almost fully approves of my character, however, there's nothing new to talk about, and I haven't gotten their personal quests.

When I talk to Alistair I have 2 options - talk about the Templars, or talk about the Grey Wardens. When I ask will you teach others to become a templar, he says I've already said no, my answer remains the same. When I ask about the Grey Wardens, my options go to I'm done asking questions, and he says for now at least. I am looking for gifts to raise his approval, and I've taken him on some quests hoping to raise it, but nothing yet.

When I talk to Leiliana, I have the option to ask her something personal or tell her to leave. when I choose the first option, it goes to never mind. and I'm not risking the 2nd option of asking her to leave.

Anyone else experiencing this?

[wepeel_]

Have you been to Redcliffe? Think Alistair must tell you about his royal blood before you can get his quest. For Leliana I'm not sure.. try giving her an Andraste's Grace if you didn't already.

[plecha]

I don't know about the other problems, but for leliana you have to take her along in your group and then an encounter will trigger while traveling - don't want to say too much, just try it out.

[edit] Yeah, you have to go to redcliffe for alistairs part to continue.

Modifié par plecha, 13 décembre 2009 - 04:42 .

[wepeel_]

Yeah, plecha is right.. that should happen as soon as you take her with you after she has admitted the real reason she came to Ferelden.

[rockinfuxstar]

I have been to Redcliffe, and healed the Arl (killed his son unfortuneately), Alistair told me about his royal blood, we even had a nice little chat about it afterwards in the camp. still nothing =[

I've given Leliana both the flower and some blue shoes. which is probably why her approval is so high. and I've had her in my group since the moment I got her (she's the only party member that can pick locks/open chests)

[swk3000]

I'm not sure what's going on. Get Leliana's affection up high enough, and when you enter camp, she'll tell you that she lied about Orlais. Hear her out, then take her with you on your next outing across the map to hit a random enounter.



Keep in mind that gifts don't have to be given to a specific character. If you get a White Runestone that Alistair really likes, but want Sten's approval up more than you want Alistair's approval up, you can give the White Runestone to Sten and he'll get an approval boost. The only gifts that will ever be refused are 'plot' gifts; the ones that trigger cutscenes when given. So you can't give Sten the Black Grimoire or the Golden Mirror, nor can you give Morrigan Sten's Sword. So if you're looking to up approval, just grab random gifts and give them to Alistair and Leliana.



I've never seen Alistair's personal quest show up before completing the 'Arl of Redcliffe' and 'Urn of Sacred Ashes' quest line. As I understand it, you have to know that he's actually a legitimate heir to the throne, and you don't find that out until you cure Arl Eamon. After you've done that, go ahead and try talking to him again, and see if it changes anything.



That is, unforunatley, all the help I can offer. If it doesn't work, I can't help you out.

[swk3000]

Also, Honnleath will continue to pulse no matter what. There's still Shale's personal quest to do, but that doesn't show up until after you've completed the 'Paragon of her Kind' quest. And it won't take place in Honnleath at all.

Modifié par swk3000, 13 décembre 2009 - 04:52 .

[rockinfuxstar]

swk3000 wrote...

Also, Honnleath will continue to pulse no matter what. There's still Shale's personal quest to do, but that doesn't show up until after you've completed the 'Paragon of her Kind' quest. And it won't take place in Honnleath at all.

Ok, that is helpful, thanks
I've done both quests you mentioned, but hopefully Alistair will turn around.

Leliana hasn't mentioned anything about Orlais, so I'm hoping that will come up soon, thanks.

and I havent done the Paragon thing, is that in Ozrammar? cuz I'm working my way through there right now

[plecha]

rockinfuxstar wrote...

Leliana hasn't mentioned anything about Orlais, so I'm hoping that will come up soon, thanks.

Hmm strange. I've had that encounter happen right after leaving camp after Lothering. Maybe you missed the conversation, although i am not sure if you can actually "skip" it.

[congokurtz]

I think Leliana talks about Orlais when you initiate the conversation beginning with "what was someone like you doing in the chantry?" The PC version was bugged if you gave here gifts prior to this conversation, but the latest patch fixed it.



The Paragon mission is the final step in getting a Dwarven King. Don't take Shale if you are going to choose Branka, and don't take Zevrahn if you are going to choose Caradin.

[Rainen89]

The orlais dialogue is a very brief window, if you don't ask her immediately you'll never get your answer. You'll also not have much of a chance romancing her, or hardening her.



On a side note, Zevran doesn't have a problem with you choosing Caradin, he gets upset over choosing Harrowmont, but even that can be persuaded to avoid losing rep.

[congokurtz]

I lost rep with Zev because he seemed to think it was too powerful an object to simply destroy.  Not a huge deal.  Choosing with Branka with Shale in the pary however is a very big deal.

Modifié par congokurtz, 13 décembre 2009 - 07:21 .

[rockinfuxstar]

congokurtz wrote...

I think Leliana talks about Orlais when you initiate the conversation beginning with "what was someone like you doing in the chantry?" The PC version was bugged if you gave here gifts prior to this conversation, but the latest patch fixed it.

The Paragon mission is the final step in getting a Dwarven King. Don't take Shale if you are going to choose Branka, and don't take Zevrahn if you are going to choose Caradin.

I dont use Zevran, should I not take Leliana instead?

I'm pretty sure I've screwed up the dialogue then, I'm pretty terrible at this game.

[congokurtz]

You can take either, depending on who you side with at the end of the quest you may lose a little bit of influence with Zev, but its not a big deal, nothing a gold bar won't fix. The biggest problem will be if you have Shale in the party and chose to side with Branka, things go down hill quickly if this is the situation.

[Rainen89]

congokurtz wrote...

I lost rep with Zev because he seemed to think it was too powerful an object to simply destroy.  Not a huge deal.  Choosing with Branka with Shale in the pary however is a very big deal.

Really? Weird, I lost rep with Morrigan but Zevran remained quiet about it. (Although if you have persuasion skill Morrigan's reply to you talking her out of how useful the item is, is hillarious.

[Vizkos]

For Leliana, return to camp, she should talk to you about the her origin or the stars or something.

For Allistair, he has to have revealed his origin when you arrive at Redcliffe for the first time.

[congokurtz]

Hmm, maybe it was Morrigan I lost rep with. This is how I know I have done too many play-throughs.

[XOGHunter246]

keep speaking to leliana about her past then take her with you when she mentions it and encounter should happen. also it's possible to miss dialog by giving to much gifts at wrong time keep speaking to you member don't just give gifts till they high or you will miss important dialog

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 13 décembre 2009 - 08:41 .

[rockinfuxstar]

ok so this is the deal with Leliana



when I'm in camp - I can say never mind, I can suggest she leave or I can ask her something personal, which takes me immediately to never mind



when we're questing - I have the same options above, plus, I can ask her what she knows about this place. I've taken her to 4 different places, to ask her about this place, and after her response I'm immediately taken to let's move on or let's talk about something else, which, takes me back to the 4 options.



With Alistair - it doesnt matter where I take him, I can only ask if he can teach others to be a templar, which he immediately refuses, or ask him about the grey wardens, which gives me the option of I have no more questions.



I'm 61% through the game, or I've explored 61% of the world rather. I think it's over, right? no quests from those 2?

[danien.grey]

I'm not sure what you're looking for. Each party member only has a single personal quest. Once you've finished those and spoken through all their dialogue trees you're effectively done with personal interactions (minus the odd quip here and there).

[rockinfuxstar]

danien.grey wrote...

I'm not sure what you're looking for. Each party member only has a single personal quest. Once you've finished those and spoken through all their dialogue trees you're effectively done with personal interactions (minus the odd quip here and there).

I haven't gotten their personal quests yet.

[supernovashadow]

Sorry, I can't help you but if it makes you feel better I had the same problem with Leliana in my last game. I had high approval, took her everywhere, but had those same few speaking options and she never brought up her quest. She appeared to be in her own dimension- I went to talk to her right before the landsmeet and she started talking about how wonderful it must have been to see Andraste's ashes. All I could think was- you were there too and that was like 30 hours ago... ?

[danien.grey]

rockinfuxstar wrote...

I haven't gotten their personal quests yet.

Now THAT I can help you with. 

There is a bug where if Leiliana's approval rating is too high, she will not initiate the dialogue telling you the real reason she left Orlais.  They claimed to have fixed this is one of the recent patches, but if you're still experiencing this problem it's obvious that didn't work for you. 

The solution to this is to purposefully trigger the event when you have her approval somewhere around the 30 mark (I do this is all my playthroughs as a precaution) by re-entering the party camp.  If you've gotten her approval rating too high (which I assume would be the case in your savegame) use the console to lower your approval rating so she'll tell you next time you enter the party camp.

As for Alistair, as the posters above have said, you have to finish the Sacred Ashes questline and confirm he really is Maric's heir before he'll talk to you about his half-sister Goldanna.

Modifié par danien.grey, 15 décembre 2009 - 06:54 .

[rockinfuxstar]

danien.grey wrote...

rockinfuxstar wrote...

I haven't gotten their personal quests yet.

Now THAT I can help you with. 

There is a bug where if Leiliana's approval rating is too high, she will not initiate the dialogue telling you the real reason she left Orlais.  They claimed to have fixed this is one of the recent patches, but if you're still experiencing this problem it's obvious that didn't work for you. 

The solution to this is to purposefully trigger the event when you have her approval somewhere around the 30 mark (I do this is all my playthroughs as a precaution) by re-entering the party camp.  If you've gotten her approval rating too high (which I assume would be the case in your savegame) use the console to lower your approval rating so she'll tell you next time you enter the party camp.

As for Alistair, as the posters above have said, you have to finish the Sacred Ashes questline and confirm he really is Maric's heir before he'll talk to you about his half-sister Goldanna.

well that Leiliana thing is news.... thanks - I'll try that. you mentioned a patch, but I'm playing on Xbox, does that matter?

I've done the Sacred Ashes quest, the Arl is healed, and I even went to visit Brother Gentivi again. still nothing. the ONLY thing I've done to gain Alistair's disapproval is threaten a chantry mother to get Sten out of prison. other than that, I've used him up till I got Shale, and his approval rating is pretty high.

[Selej]

On my City elf, I got he Leliana bug. For those that aren't playing on the xbox version, the bug basically cancels out all dialogue with Leliana past the first two. No matter what, nothing really triggers anything (minus the nug/andraste's grace) gifts. I have her up to 100 and the option to talk to her is limited to I like you to leave or nevermind.