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[DirtySHISN0]

enayasoul wrote...

Enough with the damn butt jokes it's very insulting. The whole topic shows how immature you really are. I hope this thread get's locked and quick.

If you have a problem with the games assthetics take it up with bioware.

[Siansonea]

Theoretically in the quasi-magical genetic science of the future, you can make a daughter from the DNA of a single male donor. No big whoop.

What I don't get is how/why her father "engineered" her for biotic potential. Miranda (b. 2150) is a year older than Kaidan (b. 2151), and he tells Shepard a lot about the history of human biotics. Kaidan himself is among the first generation of human biotics, his mother was accidentally exposed to element zero while pregnant with Kaidan, and he was sent to BAaT, run by Conatix Industries, to learn how to use his biotics, which weren't well understood at that time (thus why they had turian teachers). Kaidan tells Shepard that intentional eezo exposures weren't suspected until 2163, once Conatix ran out of first-generation exposures.

Mind you, the Prothean ruins on Mars weren't discovered until 2148, and First Contact with the turians wasn't until 2157, so Miranda's genetic makeup was determined before human biotics was really well understood, and before asari and other aliens were around to help them work out the kinks. Does anyone else find it odd that Henry Lawson was tinkering around with biotics only a year or so after humanity discovered element zero and before any human biotics were even thought of?

[hot_heart]

Not too sure if there's anything in-game that contradicts it (or if it makes sense), but I have seen people posit the idea that the biotics were a later addition rather than part of the original design.

[Demonique]

Don't know about Miranda, but Oriana seems to have gone through a sex-change operation between games.

[Skullheart]

Siansonea II wrote...

Theoretically in the quasi-magical genetic science of the future, you can make a daughter from the DNA of a single male donor. No big whoop.

What I don't get is how/why her father "engineered" her for biotic potential. Miranda (b. 2150) is a year older than Kaidan (b. 2151), and he tells Shepard a lot about the history of human biotics. Kaidan himself is among the first generation of human biotics, his mother was accidentally exposed to element zero while pregnant with Kaidan, and he was sent to BAaT, run by Conatix Industries, to learn how to use his biotics, which weren't well understood at that time (thus why they had turian teachers). Kaidan tells Shepard that intentional eezo exposures weren't suspected until 2163, once Conatix ran out of first-generation exposures.

Mind you, the Prothean ruins on Mars weren't discovered until 2148, and First Contact with the turians wasn't until 2157, so Miranda's genetic makeup was determined before human biotics was really well understood, and before asari and other aliens were around to help them work out the kinks. Does anyone else find it odd that Henry Lawson was tinkering around with biotics only a year or so after humanity discovered element zero and before any human biotics were even thought of?

Many people from the Miranda fanbase thinks that Miranda is an artificial biotic.

There's a medical procedure to create biotics inserting eezo nodules. However the death risk were high,even for krogans. Henry could have used that procedure to convert Miranda into a biotic when she was young (7-10 years old), risking her life.

[Siansonea]

Skullheart wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Theoretically in the quasi-magical genetic science of the future, you can make a daughter from the DNA of a single male donor. No big whoop.

What I don't get is how/why her father "engineered" her for biotic potential. Miranda (b. 2150) is a year older than Kaidan (b. 2151), and he tells Shepard a lot about the history of human biotics. Kaidan himself is among the first generation of human biotics, his mother was accidentally exposed to element zero while pregnant with Kaidan, and he was sent to BAaT, run by Conatix Industries, to learn how to use his biotics, which weren't well understood at that time (thus why they had turian teachers). Kaidan tells Shepard that intentional eezo exposures weren't suspected until 2163, once Conatix ran out of first-generation exposures.

Mind you, the Prothean ruins on Mars weren't discovered until 2148, and First Contact with the turians wasn't until 2157, so Miranda's genetic makeup was determined before human biotics was really well understood, and before asari and other aliens were around to help them work out the kinks. Does anyone else find it odd that Henry Lawson was tinkering around with biotics only a year or so after humanity discovered element zero and before any human biotics were even thought of?

Many people from the Miranda fanbase thinks that Miranda is an artificial biotic.

There's a medical procedure to create biotics inserting eezo nodules. However the death risk were high,even for krogans. Henry could have used that procedure to convert Miranda into a biotic when she was young (7-10 years old), risking her life.

If that's the case, I wish they would have mentioned it in-game. It's a pretty big facepalm as it is. 

[hot_heart]

It probably would've helped reinforce that horrible childhood element...but maybe she doesn't like to talk about it so explicitly.

[MrStoob]

lillitheris wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

flemm wrote...

Well, gender is a spectrum not a binary

I would dispute that.

I agree, gender is a ternary in English…masculine, feminine, neuter.

Sex, on the other hand, is a spectrum.

Indeed, orientation is whatever you want.  Gender is defined by specific biological attributes.  Although lill, gender doesn't just refer to language.  There is male, female and hermaphordite.

[o Ventus]

enayasoul wrote...

Enough with the damn butt jokes it's very insulting. The whole topic shows how immature you really are. I hope this thread get's locked and quick.

This. All the "dat ass" jokes started to lose their shine roughly the day ME2 released.

[Fox In The Box]

flemm wrote...

Yes, but Miranda was not born in the standard fashion, but rather engineered, making that irrelevant. 

Sure she was and I agreed with you. However, the OP claimed that women only had X chromosones, which was the point I was addressing.

[dtrain24]

It's obvious Miranda is a woman. Her chromosomes were altered...which is probably quite easy 150 years into the future. Henry took desirable traits from other females to implement into Miranda.

And on the note of "dat ass" jokes, it's been getting old. There's more to Miranda than just her ass. Try actually having a few lenghtly conversations with her on the Normandy and maybe you'll realize that we're not her fans because of her butt. We like her personality and mental toughness foremost.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

No she isn't! She is a Woman.

[Flashflame58]

Saying that Miranda is a man is an insult to all men out there.

[wsandista]

Well he was engineered to be perfect.......

[enayasoul]

dtrain24 wrote...

It's obvious Miranda is a woman. Her chromosomes were altered...which is probably quite easy 150 years into the future. Henry took desirable traits from other females to implement into Miranda.

And on the note of "dat ass" jokes, it's been getting old. There's more to Miranda than just her ass. Try actually having a few lenghtly conversations with her on the Normandy and maybe you'll realize that we're not her fans because of her butt. We like her personality and mental toughness foremost.

This!

I think it's been theorized or stated perhaps, that Henry Lawson was supporting Cerberus or at least Tim until Miranda ran away.  TIM knew about the prothean cache on mars, Henry could have been on the back burner doing research stuff or something... thus why he probably got the idea to make Miranda biotic or something.  We don't know exactly but it's anyone's guess.  It's never been explained. So much potential stories to be told about Miranda and her father that never saw the light of day.

[Flashflame58]

dtrain24 wrote...

And on the note of "dat ass" jokes, it's been getting old. There's more to Miranda than just her ass. Try actually having a few lenghtly conversations with her on the Normandy and maybe you'll realize that we're not her fans because of her butt. We like her personality and mental toughness foremost.

Don't speak for the entire fanbase.

[Arcadian Legend]

I do detect jimmies are being rustled in this thread.

[C9316]

Nevermind >.<

Modifié par C9316, 19 juin 2012 - 11:59 .

[wsandista]

This is what miranda looks like without makeup


http://t2.gstatic.co...6kBUbq11Ou8cxlw

Modifié par wsandista, 20 juin 2012 - 12:02 .

[Code_R]

I approve of this thread

[Flashflame58]

wsandista wrote...

This is what miranda looks like without makeup


http://t2.gstatic.co...6kBUbq11Ou8cxlw

Dat moustache.. :wub:

[wsandista]

Flashflame58 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

This is what miranda looks like without makeup


http://t2.gstatic.co...6kBUbq11Ou8cxlw

Dat moustache.. :wub:

here's a better pic

http://t3.gstatic.co...OBS8MAqtWMzusbw

[fainmaca]

Is it too late to post this?