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Why Isn't Sten freaked out by mages?


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 It seems like he realizes they are dangerous but isn't actaully scared or worried.
In Da 2 the Arvaarad went bonkers when he  you told him you were a mage why does Sten accept it so calmly?

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Sten is a different person. Qunari culture might teach its followers that mages are dangerous and need to be controlled at all times, but the Qunari don't all share one big hive mind that has the exact same opinions and reactions about everything.

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Sten is the guy they sent to another country without backup (beyond what he and his team could physically carry) to investigate something that could end life on the planet. Why would he be scared of a mage?

The blight is easily as dangerous as a mage, but he's no more scared of it then he is of the Mage-Warden - he just acknowledges that it presents a threat.

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The Qun doesn't encourage indepdent thought so I figured he would be brainwashed enough to be afraid of them.

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He thinks mages are dangerous, but he also thinks he is dangerous. He has other things on his mind than unregulated mages. He knows that Ferelden is chock full of danger (mages, The Blight, The Chantry, Mabari, children playing, the Gray Wardens doing everything but fighting the archdemon and baked goods). He has a lot on his mind, especially him losing his self control and killing a farm family. What happens at the Circle is less scary than confirmation the Qun is right about mages.

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Qun does prize self control a great deal and even if he was afraid, his renewed self control allowed him some sanity.

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The Qunari belief that a mage can corrupt someone by their breath alone was more of a DA2 thing. The Kossith in DA2 also have horns and don't believe in wearing shirts...

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Arthur Cousland wrote...

The Qunari belief that a mage can corrupt someone by their breath alone was more of a DA2 thing. The Kossith in DA2 also have horns and don't believe in wearing shirts...


Yes, I think that some of the changes were good. 

In seriousness, I think things that were more shaded in DAO were more black and white in DA2.  Sten obviously was wary of mages and felt that their treatment was correct (their tongues cut out and kept in pens), and his reasoning was actually sound, though repugnant.  There just was a depth to that dialog about mages that was missing in DA2, probably because they didn't deeply explore the themes.

I liked the more subtle approach.

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ejoslin wrote…

In seriousness, I think things that were more shaded in DAO were more black and white in DA2. Sten obviously was wary of mages and felt that their treatment was correct (their tongues cut out and kept in pens), and his reasoning was actually sound, though repugnant. There just was a depth to that dialog about mages that was missing in DA2, probably because they didn't deeply explore the themes.

I liked the more subtle approach.


I completely agree. I thought the mage/templar conflict in DA2 had a lot of potential, but the way that it was handled lacked subtlety, to the point where most of the mages and templars felt like caricatures instead of real people, and it was one of my major frustrations with the game. If there had been more moments in DA2 that showed the same depth of character as Sten's conversation with the Warden about mages, I would probably have enjoyed it more.

What I love about that conversation with Sten is that he's expressing an extreme and repugnant point of view, yet he also comes across as well-spoken and reasonable, listening carefully to the Warden and explaining his disagreement in an articulate  and carefully considered way. It's that kind of multi-dimensionality that makes the characters in Origins so life-like and fascinating.

Modifié par jillabender, 21 juin 2012 - 02:55 .


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Because Sten have honor, the mage-Warden release him from the cage, and he promise to follow the mage-Warden to the end

In DA2, there is something about "worthy to follow" thing..."Basavarad", something like that...if i understand the Ketojan at all

Modifié par Nizaris1, 21 juin 2012 - 03:33 .


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Nizaris1 wrote…

In DA2, there is something about "worthy to follow" thing..."Basavarad", something like that...if i understand the Ketojan at all


The word you're thinking of is "basalit-an" – that's what both Ketojan and the Arishok call Hawke, if I remember correctly.

Edit: My mistake – both "basvaraad" and "basalit-an" mean "worthy of following" in the Qunari tongue, but "basalit-an" always refers to a non-Qunari.

Modifié par jillabender, 22 juin 2012 - 01:15 .