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[LadyAlekto]

Yay and another ban wave i can smear into peoples faces that whine at me and "report" because i pwn with a revenant-.-

Gj bioware, i love to see damned cheater and exploiter gone

[Malditor]

Raging Nug wrote...

It was possible on the XBox as well - don't know about PS3.

So that means they've banned close to 2000 players now. I wonder how many people are still playing at this point.

There are a lot of people still playing. Stop trying to make it sound like not banning people for abusing glitches or cheating by mod'ing the coal.bin file should just be ignored. Removing undesireables from games like this is how all online games function. Most people don't want to play an online game where people who cheat aren't punished.

[Credit2team]

I imagine that a lot of players were caught with the infinite missile glitch as well, where is the post that says a thousand people were banned? Or was that a guess?

EDIT:nevermind, I see it now.

Modifié par thewalrusx, 19 juin 2012 - 07:54 .

[landylan]

not sure if this has been mentioned...but are they able to investigate glitch exploiters on the xbox and ps3?

[Raging Nug]

Malditor wrote...

There are a lot of people still playing. Stop trying to make it sound like not banning people for abusing glitches or cheating by mod'ing the coal.bin file should just be ignored. Removing undesireables from games like this is how all online games function. Most people don't want to play an online game where people who cheat aren't punished.

Ten is a lot. Hundred is a lot. Thousand is also a lot. I asked how many people are actually still playing. What a vague, meaningless answer. :\\

I'll stop making it sound that way when Abraham stops making it sound that way. If we got a figure of how many people are still playing, or how much of an impact the ban wave made, I'd have less reason for concern. Frankly, treating them like undesirables instead of simply fixing the game is part of the problem. It's poor damage control, and doesn't actually fix the problem.

[Credit2team]

Raging Nug wrote...

Malditor wrote...

There are a lot of people still playing. Stop trying to make it sound like not banning people for abusing glitches or cheating by mod'ing the coal.bin file should just be ignored. Removing undesireables from games like this is how all online games function. Most people don't want to play an online game where people who cheat aren't punished.

Ten is a lot. Hundred is a lot. Thousand is also a lot. I asked how many people are actually still playing. What a vague, meaningless answer. :

I'll stop making it sound that way when Abraham stops making it sound that way. If we got a figure of how many people are still playing, or how much of an impact the ban wave made, I'd have less reason for concern. Frankly, treating them like undesirables instead of simply fixing the game is part of the problem. It's poor damage control, and doesn't actually fix the problem.

For all we know all the bans could be temporary. I'm positive that at least some of them are. Just remember that banned doesn't neccesarily mean banned forever. 

[robarcool]

While banning is right, Bioware should try to fix the glitches so that people can't exploit them. That way, they don't lose player base.

[UKillMeLongTime]

ban them forever
they would just play another game and laugh at bw for a temp one IF they kept their goods achieved by cheating

[coldlogic82]

I'm sure there are lots of players left because in all my time playing I've only actually ever been grouped with an obvious cheating player once.

I'm not sure why anyone would be so intent on defending exploiters and hackers though. Yeah, they're good gents in that most of them probably don't murder prostitutes... but, you don't defend someone at a murder trial by pointing out they're not an arsonist.

The easiest way to avoid getting banned for cheating is not... to... cheat... MIND BLOWING.

[barbarose]

UKStory135 wrote...

 

Best pic ever

[NubXL]

Competent developers would fix the exploit rather than remove users from the community.

[Rip504]

Bans? LoL Bioware Devs should be losing jobs. This MP seems to be more broken each and every day. So they will ban people for using glitches the devs FAILED to fix or address? Awesome.

Modifié par Rip504, 19 juin 2012 - 08:05 .

[Malditor]

Raging Nug wrote...

Malditor wrote...

There are a lot of people still playing. Stop trying to make it sound like not banning people for abusing glitches or cheating by mod'ing the coal.bin file should just be ignored. Removing undesireables from games like this is how all online games function. Most people don't want to play an online game where people who cheat aren't punished.

Ten is a lot. Hundred is a lot. Thousand is also a lot. I asked how many people are actually still playing. What a vague, meaningless answer. :

I'll stop making it sound that way when Abraham stops making it sound that way. If we got a figure of how many people are still playing, or how much of an impact the ban wave made, I'd have less reason for concern. Frankly, treating them like undesirables instead of simply fixing the game is part of the problem. It's poor damage control, and doesn't actually fix the problem.

Fixing the problem but allowing people to keep what they gained doesn't help either. Removing what they gained and allowing them to stay isn't a bad solution, however these are typically the same people that will jump on abusing any other new glitches that come up. Nobody said they won't be fixing it, but letting people know that it's not acceptable and that continuing to abuse it will get them banned is more than acceptable. I'd rather play with 2000 honest players than 10,000 dishonest players.

[Raging Nug]

coldlogic82 wrote...
I'm not sure why anyone would be so intent on defending exploiters and hackers though. Yeah, they're good gents in that most of them probably don't murder prostitutes... but, you don't defend someone at a murder trial by pointing out they're not an arsonist. 

Funny you'd mention that, because that was how EA reacted when they were awarded "Worst Company of the Year". They mentioned four of the past recipients and essentially said "Hey, at least we're not Bank or America. But we don't care what you think - we're going to keep making money however we like."

I'm not defending the cheaters - criticizing the process is not the same as defending a criminal. I can disagree with capital punishment but still believe that criminals should be punished. :\\

[Mandalore313]

[barbarose]

Raging Nug wrote...

barbarose wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

It was possible on the XBox as well - don't know about PS3.

So that means they've banned close to 2000 players now. I wonder how many people are still playing at this point.

Now that the game is 30 bucks. There are many new players out there. Just you what till the game becomes 20 bucks. Heck they should sell the multiplayer for 10 and then we see millions more.

'Some' people might be more likely to buy it at the reduced price, but that doesn't mean they'll be playing the Multiplayer, or for very long.
Price drops usually mean the game isn't selling well, or they're going to be pushing new premium DLC. In this case it could be both.

Its all about keeping up with the jones. If a noob gets the game see us with weapon x. Then they have to fight temptation to buy packs.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Good riddance cheaters.

[Slojack]

Order 66

[xassantex]

i only have about 15 people on my friend's list.. out of which 4 show up regularly .
The others i'm going to remove soon because they are never online. What does that tell us.

[Raging Nug]

barbarose wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

barbarose wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

It was possible on the XBox as well - don't know about PS3.

So that means they've banned close to 2000 players now. I wonder how many people are still playing at this point.

Now that the game is 30 bucks. There are many new players out there. Just you what till the game becomes 20 bucks. Heck they should sell the multiplayer for 10 and then we see millions more.

'Some' people might be more likely to buy it at the reduced price, but that doesn't mean they'll be playing the Multiplayer, or for very long.
Price drops usually mean the game isn't selling well, or they're going to be pushing new premium DLC. In this case it could be both.

Its all about keeping up with the jones. If a noob gets the game see us with weapon x. Then they have to fight temptation to buy packs.

Or they might just not care. I picked up Bioshock 2's multiplayer for the first time last month (because I was bored with ME3) - I felt no need to level up my character or grind for new powers. I played the game and put it down again a couple days later. I feel a lot of new ME3 players might feel likewise.

The fact is that the long-term fans are the ones who are more likely to play the game for longer anyway, and most if not all of those long-term fans are already playing.

[Raging Nug]

xassantex wrote...

i only have about 15 people on my friend's list.. out of which 4 show up regularly .
The others i'm going to remove soon because they are never online. What does that tell us.

... that you have no friends? ;-;

But seriously, most of my friends stopped playing ME3 months ago. They moved on to Minecraft or Diablo or Dark Souls.

[coldlogic82]

Raging Nug wrote...

coldlogic82 wrote...
I'm not sure why anyone would be so intent on defending exploiters and hackers though. Yeah, they're good gents in that most of them probably don't murder prostitutes... but, you don't defend someone at a murder trial by pointing out they're not an arsonist. 

Funny you'd mention that, because that was how EA reacted when they were awarded "Worst Company of the Year". They mentioned four of the past recipients and essentially said "Hey, at least we're not Bank or America. But we don't care what you think - we're going to keep making money however we like."

I'm not defending the cheaters - criticizing the process is not the same as defending a criminal. I can disagree with capital punishment but still believe that criminals should be punished. :

Really?  A lot of what you said sounded very defensive of the players, not the process.  Like the previously mentioned point where you said they could be good people.  I mean, don't ban them because your system includes too many criteria a player could accidentally exploit, or don't ban them because we have evidence or proof beyond anicdotal stories that people who shouldn't be getting banned are getting banned, those are attacks on the system.  Don't ban them because they're basically good people defends the offending player.  And I'm sorry, but, "don't ban these guys because they're actually good people," is probably the absolute worst kind of defense.  Can you imagine if real criminal justice worked like that?  Every case would use the defense "yeah, he did something he knew beforehand he wasn't supposed to, and sure, he knew that this was the outlined consquence, but, overall, he's a good guy, so let's let him off, huh?"  

[OblivionDawn]

Raging Nug wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

Ibn_Shisha wrote...

BW internal meeting yesterday:

"Would you believe people are STILL using the host disconnect glitch!?"
"They're fools, we should ban them."
"Didn't we fix that in the patch?"
"Looks like it didn't work, and banning them's easier than fixing the problem in the first place anyway"

Fix'd.

Probably is, and effective it would seem.

If by 'effective' you mean 'stops people from playing', then yes, it's absolutely effective.
It also happens to be determental to the community, but that's beside the point, right? What matters is that those 2000 anonymous cheaters, whom we know absolutely nothing about, will never again darken our halls with whatever non-descript villainy they commited to earn those bans.

Hurray for fewer players! Soon we'll know one another by name! =D

If they have the tendency to cheat and make the game suck, I don't want them in my community anyway. Numbers be damned. So good riddance.

[SoulRebel_1979]

Armchair Quarterbacks telling Bioware how to run a Dev house. News at 11

[xassantex]

Raging Nug wrote...

xassantex wrote...

i only have about 15 people on my friend's list.. out of which 4 show up regularly .
The others i'm going to remove soon because they are never online. What does that tell us.

... that you have no friends? ;-;

But seriously, most of my friends stopped playing ME3 months ago. They moved on to Minecraft or Diablo or Dark Souls.

haha, yes but that's another story. 
guess you're right, people migrate to the next new thing ... novelty syndrome kicks in.