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#51
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Good post, people whine all the time but in my personal experience, where'd i've put in a lot of hours into the multiplayer, i've had a very pleasant time with the people i play with and on the whole we all try to help each other when we can and play off each other well, it's...ULTRA RARE that i get any problems with my teams.

But i digress, that's my personal experience, i understand that it may not be the same for everyone, but i would like to think that most people have a really smooth experience and few problems like me :)

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BERT AND ERNY wrote...

its a shame a well thought out post gets childish answers. if nothing constructive or civil can be said, dont say anything. personaly i say yes, well said OP.


Yeah, I played a match with OP, he is good and it was a very friendly match - lots of communication and we had a good time.  Its obvious he likes the game and wants people to chill out a little bit and enjoy it - he sure does.:wizard:

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And there you go, OP, complaining about other people complaining...

But that's your right, of course, just as the other posters on this board have a right to complain about things in the game they don't like, be it weapons, bugs or other players. Things just can't always be sunshine and bunnies and when someone feels the need to vent about an experience in MP, this is the place to go.

Visit this thread to read some extremely positive examples of player feedback, if you like, and you'll see that not everyone feels constantly upset about the game (which I think barely anyone really does).

I've kicked people from the lobby, and even though I very rarely do so, mostly for taking too long to get ready, it happened. I don't mind anyone's loadout, though I roll my eyes at adepts with two weapons <_<, a level 1-10 character with matching N7 rating has no business being in a gold game, IMO. If the other two players are very high level and/or have high level rare weapons, I might risk it, but otherwise you just know that the mission is going to fail.

Also, reviving everyone is nice and all, and I try to do that, too, but if that vanguard (nothing against vanguards, I usually love them) just has to charge that Atlas, surrounded by guardians and phantoms and gets killed in the process, well then that's his own damn fault and I won't follow him into oblivion. 
Anyone who doesn't revive someone out of spite, when they have every opportunity to help, is a jerk, though, and should play only solo games IMO, if he prefers MP without teammates.

Complaining about bugs, on the other hand, is extremely important. As XxTaLoNxX already wrote, it's the easiest and best way to make BW aware of them, and also to show how widespread they are if many people report the issues. I was lucky so far and haven't been disconnected from a gold game, yet, but you can believe me that I'm going to be pissed when I fought through 10 waves and almost 30 minutes of geth/reaper/phantom hell and the game simply drops me before extraction. People have every right to be angry about that and as this is the ME3 MP message board, why not post here, where you're bound to find people that share your pain.


Long story short, you post here, because you're annoyed by other people's complains, other people post here because they're annoyed by things in the actual game. Same difference.

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What do you mean 'you people'?

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Gravbh wrote...

What do you mean 'you people'?


I was tempted to post that. Thank you :D

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[quote]upinya slayin wrote...
1) i've never kicked any player for any reason including load out, N7 rating, etc[/quote]
How very noble of you. I have. You want to know why? The matchmaking system is currently borked, and it throws in new players - who should be learning in Bornze - into Gold. This is a known error, btw.

They won't have a good time in Gold, I won't have a good time with them on my team. 

There are other legitimate reasons, too: Vanguard not on host has a chance to bug out, for example.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote... 
2) i've gotten through a gold random random with 2 random people and 1 friend. teh 2 random people were N7 rating of 1 (with a predator 1 and mantis 1, obviously his 1ts game ever) and like a 42. sure they didn't kill much but we made it through, i see it as a challenge not an annoyance[/quote]
Well done. Not sure what this proves, though. So you can carry a couple of low levels (who probably stumbled into Gold by mistake with those levels, may I add) through Gold. Well done. 

Some of us don't have time to do that every game.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...  
3) i've never complained about people using the krysea and infiltrator. If they want to kill everyhting easy its less pressure on me. I don't care about the score[/quote]
The GI and Krysae combo can actually disrupt the pace and challenge of the game. Some  of us care about the actual process of playing, not just the credits. 

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
4) I revive eveyrone, even at the cost of my own life. 95% of the time the favor is returned in the game.[/quote]
Revives shouldn't be spammed for karma. They should be considered, tactical things. 

If you're running in every time simply because you want to be polite, you're going to mess the game up for everyone at some point.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
5) If i'm playing with randoms who die alot i take less chances so they don't have to revive me. It makes teh game take longer but so what[/quote]
Some of us only have a short time to game. We have girlfriends, jobs, hobbies, other projects on top... you know, lives?! 

I don't always have 50 minutes to scrape through a Gold game with 3 n71s hanging off my back.

That doesn't make me a bad person.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
6) I have no issue burning through 5 gels and 5 rockets eveyr gold match i play. i can always buy more anyway. there not hard to find. I'm not gonna get mad cause someone else doesn't[/quote]
It's a simple matter of etiquette. If I spend my rockets helping the team, then you can return the favour at some point.

These things cost.

Don't leave all the kill objectives for me, take the one that pops up near to you.

And so on..

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
7) I swore (i know its impossible but i have no other explanaiton) that i seen a random miss a heavy melee on a nemisis when she was the last one left and she did a back flip and he died. She must have shot him somehow but we all had a running joke that he got melee's to death by a nemisis. we got a good laugh out of it and dind't kick him[/quote]
I've died on a swarmer at the end of Wave 11. 

S*it happens. It happens a lot. You're not noble for not  kicking for it, you're normal.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
8) We all know the game has glitches and issues, but it doens't ruin the fun. I've lost credits and XP due to disconnects, I've flown off the map as a vanguard, got 1 hitted by an invisible banshee etc. but teh game is still fun and i'm not gonna complain about it[/quote]
Complaints, while annoying at times, help highlight issues that require resolutions.

Without them we wouldn't get very far. 

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
9) I don't think i'm teh greatest player ever and everyone should bow to my greatness[/quote]
No, but you do present yourself as some kind of public hero...

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
10) i like to joke around and communicate with other while playing. big deal. isn't taht part of the online exp. I'd rather play with someone who is cool to play with but not very good then someone who is awesone and won't use a mic or stays silent the whole game[/quote]
Fair point. Player preference, and a fine ideal.

 [quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
11) I don't complain weapons should be buffed or nerfed. let it go. BW made the weopons, they'll adjust as they see fit. stop teling them what to do. yeah my eagle sucks but so what. I won't use it. I have 40 other guns to pick from. I'll find a way to shoot somehting with another gun. I promise[/quote]
You have no idea how feedback works, nor that feedback is one of the primary functions of this forum.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
It seems if more people thought this way there would be less complaining and more enjoying of the game
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No, if more people thought this way the game would actually be less fun to play for all the reasons given above.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 19 juin 2012 - 11:50 .


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Rest assured U-S, that regardless of what you'll see posted frequently here, the vast majority of the greater ME3 community stands with you. Great post!

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IAMREALITY wrote...

Rest assured U-S, that regardless of what you'll see posted frequently here, the vast majority of the greater ME3 community stands with you. Great post!

The OP's heart is in the right place, but his actual post is way off the mark...

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LMAO @ this ridiculous thread. I mean, I agree with some of these, but a numbered list to detail "Here's how I think about the game, and so should you" comes across as more than a little Narcissistic.

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astheoceansblue said,
"Some of us only have a short time to game. We have girlfriends, jobs, hobbies, other projects on top... you know, lives?!

I don't always have 50 minutes to scrape through a Gold game with 3 n71s hanging off my back.

That doesn't make me a bad person."

gaming is a hobby dude. if you dont have time to fit it in to a busy schedule that does suck but it is that, a hobby. something you choose to dedicate time to. i personaly dont fire me3 up less i know iv got at least 45 mins because, well, once in a while everything goes fubar :). if you cant find an extra 10 or 20 mins to finish one of thos missions then perhaps you need to find something else to play in those time restricted sessions. or drop a different activity. (no i dont mean the GF or the job lol)

oh and no, it doesnt make you a bad person, just rather busy by the sound of it.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

LMAO @ this ridiculous thread. I mean, I agree with some of these, but a numbered list to detail "Here's how I think about the game, and so should you" comes across as more than a little Narcissistic.

The way he says it, if he really plays it that way then it is good, for he is taking it like a game rather than too seriously. Not sure what to laugh at. It is actually praiseworthy.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

LMAO @ this ridiculous thread. I mean, I agree with some of these, but a numbered list to detail "Here's how I think about the game, and so should you" comes across as more than a little Narcissistic.


I take it as Here's how I think about the game and this is why I have fun with it. So much more refreshing than three quarters of the posts except some of the MEME and new Joke posts that seem to be popping up recently

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I shamelessly kick people with crap loadout on gold , seriously , I'm not willing to throw some 20 minutes away .I play on the ps3 and more often than not i find myself:
1- killing everything
2- completing objectives
3- using medigels in objective waves when nobody feels like it and then saving everybody
4 reviving everyone

well you know the drill , it may sound arrogant , but it's not , it's anger , completing gold in 30minutes + and carrying everybody on my back?No , a game is supposed to be fun.

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[quote]david_demos484 wrote...

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...

I've made it through with a level 1,4, and 7 before. my friend led a game with a level 1 character on gold.

[quote]

That is what we call an outlier in STAT land. I enjoy the 95% success rate within two standard deviations of the mean and if that involves me kicking lower levels from my lobbies then so be it.
 
Don't get me wrong. I could and have done it with low levels before, but not everyone out there is as awesome as we. I say that last part tongue and cheek; sarcasm doesn't really work in message boards.

Seriously though you do see a trend between the level of people who you are playing with and success on gold matches don't you?


[/quote]

Of course there is a trend. If i have 4 great players gold is pretty easy most of the time. but I'd rather fail and accept the challenge of having a low skill level then pass becuase i wated for 3 N7s of 50000 to show up in my lobby. Not every game has to be a victory.

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XxTaLoNxX wrote...

1) Players complaining about bugs and glitches on the forums is THE BEST way to inform BioWare. How else would they know about the ULM not working? The glitches that are in the game got past QA once, and sometimes twice. We are here to give them this feedback and let them know about problems in the game. That's OUR job.

2) Elitist posts are annoying. Especially annoying when said elitist posts their builds and run only the most powerful and conservative builds and then bash others for trying something different. In a game with 1000s of character/weapon setups possible the elitists have somehow "in their mind" reduced the possibilities of useful or viable setups down to maybe 20 possible character/weapon setups that THEY accept.

3) Not everyone is an elitist. Some of us just enjoy the game.

4) Buffing and Nerfing weapons mixes things up. If they never buffed/nerfed.... there are weapons and class/race combos NOBODY in their right mind would have played if the game was the same as launch day. For example... Human Adept and Human Soldier. They used to be terrible, but now they are godly.


I understand what your saying, but in the same sense BW is well aware of the UM. no reason for 100 more threads to appera about it. But they will :(

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ryoldschool wrote...

BERT AND ERNY wrote...

its a shame a well thought out post gets childish answers. if nothing constructive or civil can be said, dont say anything. personaly i say yes, well said OP.


Yeah, I played a match with OP, he is good and it was a very friendly match - lots of communication and we had a good time.  Its obvious he likes the game and wants people to chill out a little bit and enjoy it - he sure does.:wizard:


Thanks!

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BERT AND ERNY wrote...

astheoceansblue said,
"Some of us only have a short time to game. We have girlfriends, jobs, hobbies, other projects on top... you know, lives?!

I don't always have 50 minutes to scrape through a Gold game with 3 n71s hanging off my back.

That doesn't make me a bad person."

gaming is a hobby dude. if you dont have time to fit it in to a busy schedule that does suck but it is that, a hobby. something you choose to dedicate time to. i personaly dont fire me3 up less i know iv got at least 45 mins because, well, once in a while everything goes fubar :). if you cant find an extra 10 or 20 mins to finish one of thos missions then perhaps you need to find something else to play in those time restricted sessions. or drop a different activity. (no i dont mean the GF or the job lol)

oh and no, it doesnt make you a bad person, just rather busy by the sound of it.

...or I could simply ignore the OPs silly suggestions and cater for my own preferences?

Sounds much more resonable to me. :)

upinya slayin wrote...
Of course there is a trend. If i have 4 great players gold is pretty easy most of the time. but I'd rather fail and accept the challenge of having a low skill level then pass becuase i wated for 3 N7s of 50000 to show up in my lobby. Not every game has to be a victory.

No, it doesn't, but not every match has to be a slog carrying through Bronze level n7s just because you feel like it's somehow noble of you to carry them...

N7 means very little past a certain point, but low level n7s (under 50 especially) with low level weapons are inexperienced by default and /should/ be practising in Silver at least. 

And stop trying to make out like the "challenge" of carrying lower players is somehow greater than the challenge of putting a good team together for an effecient clear. Just because you can carry low level players doesn't mean you're being challenged more or are eny better than those who prefere to play with experienced players, especially as they will be clearing the games much faster. 

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 20 juin 2012 - 02:43 .


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[quote]astheoceansblue wrote...

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...
1) i've never kicked any player for any reason including load out, N7 rating, etc[/quote]
How very noble of you. I have. You want to know why? The matchmaking system is currently borked, and it throws in new players - who should be learning in Bornze - into Gold. This is a known error, btw.

They won't have a good time in Gold, I won't have a good time with them on my team. 

There are other legitimate reasons, too: Vanguard not on host has a chance to bug out, for example.

They have the option to leave if they are in the wrong match, and your saying your gonna kcik someone for the chance they might glitch out?

[quote]upinya slayin wrote... 
2) i've gotten through a gold random random with 2 random people and 1 friend. teh 2 random people were N7 rating of 1 (with a predator 1 and mantis 1, obviously his 1ts game ever) and like a 42. sure they didn't kill much but we made it through, i see it as a challenge not an annoyance[/quote]
Well done. Not sure what this proves, though. So you can carry a couple of low levels (who probably stumbled into Gold by mistake with those levels, may I add) through Gold. Well done. 

Some of us don't have time to do that every game.

Fair enough. And just syaing it is possible to get through a gold with a low level character/N7 on your team in gold.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...  
3) i've never complained about people using the krysea and infiltrator. If they want to kill everyhting easy its less pressure on me. I don't care about the score[/quote]
The GI and Krysae combo can actually disrupt the pace and challenge of the game. Some  of us care about the actual process of playing, not just the credits. 

It doens't disrupt the game. It just kills thinks before you can get your shot off and it frustrates you.

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
4) I revive eveyrone, even at the cost of my own life. 95% of the time the favor is returned in the game.[/quote]
Revives shouldn't be spammed for karma. They should be considered, tactical things. 

If you're running in every time simply because you want to be polite, you're going to mess the game up for everyone at some point.

Admittedly I've gotten myself killed many times before doing that. Depends on how much i cna count on my team

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
5) If i'm playing with randoms who die alot i take less chances so they don't have to revive me. It makes teh game take longer but so what[/quote]
Some of us only have a short time to game. We have girlfriends, jobs, hobbies, other projects on top... you know, lives?! 

I don't always have 50 minutes to scrape through a Gold game with 3 n71s hanging off my back.

That doesn't make me a bad person.

Fair rnough but an extra 15 mins is unreasonable? BTW i think my longets gold was about 35 mins my average is between 23-28 mins so its not a huge difference. its not like it doubles the game length

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
6) I have no issue burning through 5 gels and 5 rockets eveyr gold match i play. i can always buy more anyway. there not hard to find. I'm not gonna get mad cause someone else doesn't[/quote]
It's a simple matter of etiquette. If I spend my rockets helping the team, then you can return the favour at some point.

These things cost.

Don't leave all the kill objectives for me, take the one that pops up near to you.

And so on..

Infiltrators are kinda expected to get devices

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
7) I swore (i know its impossible but i have no other explanaiton) that i seen a random miss a heavy melee on a nemisis when she was the last one left and she did a back flip and he died. She must have shot him somehow but we all had a running joke that he got melee's to death by a nemisis. we got a good laugh out of it and dind't kick him[/quote]
I've died on a swarmer at the end of Wave 11. 

S*it happens. It happens a lot. You're not noble for not  kicking for it, you're normal.

My point was alot of people would have kicked the guy for being a bad player. Everytime i have a random coming in I always hope for a really good one, but i'm not gonna be pissed if he/she isn't a good player

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
8) We all know the game has glitches and issues, but it doens't ruin the fun. I've lost credits and XP due to disconnects, I've flown off the map as a vanguard, got 1 hitted by an invisible banshee etc. but teh game is still fun and i'm not gonna complain about it[/quote]
Complaints, while annoying at times, help highlight issues that require resolutions.

Without them we wouldn't get very far. 

Treu but too many epople beat the dead horse

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
9) I don't think i'm teh greatest player ever and everyone should bow to my greatness[/quote]
No, but you do present yourself as some kind of public hero...

More of a public service announcement

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
10) i like to joke around and communicate with other while playing. big deal. isn't taht part of the online exp. I'd rather play with someone who is cool to play with but not very good then someone who is awesone and won't use a mic or stays silent the whole game[/quote]
Fair point. Player preference, and a fine ideal.

 [quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
11) I don't complain weapons should be buffed or nerfed. let it go. BW made the weopons, they'll adjust as they see fit. stop teling them what to do. yeah my eagle sucks but so what. I won't use it. I have 40 other guns to pick from. I'll find a way to shoot somehting with another gun. I promise[/quote]
You have no idea how feedback works, nor that feedback is one of the primary functions of this forum.

I do but if BW knows the ULM doens't work and said they are working on it and 15 more threads pop up complaining about it, how is the prodcutive feedback. thats just whining

[quote]upinya slayin wrote...   
It seems if more people thought this way there would be less complaining and more enjoying of the game
[/quote]
No, if more people thought this way the game would actually be less fun to play for all the reasons given above.

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upinya slayin wrote...
They have the option to leave if they are in the wrong match, and your saying your gonna kcik someone for the chance they might glitch out?

Yes.

if you have a mic ask them politely to eitehr go and Host with their Vanguard so the potential glitch doesn't ruin the entire team's game, or ask them to change class. If they remaing unresponsive or refuse, then you have a right to remove them from your game.


upinya slayin wrote... 
It doens't disrupt the game. It just kills thinks before you can get your shot off and it frustrates you.

Which is actively disrupting the game.

I know people good enough that when they use the Gi and Kry there's almost nothing left after each spawn/cluster of mobs for anyone else to shoot. it makes the game boring, no fun, lacking pace and challenge.

And even if peopel aren't that good, the mechanic of insta gibbing stuff I find disruptive too. I can deal with it, but I'd rather not play along side it.

upinya slayin wrote...  
Fair rnough but an extra 15 mins is unreasonable? BTW i think my longets gold was about 35 mins my average is between 23-28 mins so its not a huge difference. its not like it doubles the game length

35 minutes is pretty much doubleing the game length when my average clears are 22 minutes. I always try to run with one other person I can depend on, so if we /have/ to rely on ourselves we can.

And yes, sometimes and extra 15 minutes is unreasonable for me. During the day I get to browse the forums as I work my full time job. When I'm home and I have my own projects to complete, I sometimes get downtime as clients are looking over the work I sent them, I can squeeze in a quick 20 minute game here and there.

upinya slayin wrote...  
My point was alot of people would have kicked the guy for being a bad player. Everytime i have a random coming in I always hope for a really good one, but i'm not gonna be pissed if he/she isn't a good player

I've played a lot, and I've hardly ever seen this kind of thing. The only time I see kicks up is for low character levels on Gold, I rarely even see it for low n7s if the character level is high enough.

upinya slayin wrote...  
I do but if BW knows the ULM doens't work and said they are working on it and 15 more threads pop up complaining about it, how is the prodcutive feedback. thats just whining

Keeps the pressure on. You can ignore it, I an ignore it. Easy to do. Let's not let Bioware sit on their coattales,  though. :)

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if you havnt got the time for less skilled players thats your loss/gain/preference. and you are entitled to it. but if your in the mindset of ignoring "silly suggestions" why comment at all and why call them silly because they dont fall in line with your time restrictions. all i was saying is a game like this prob shouldnt be played without the knowledge of the possibility of the game "over running" sometimes. i understand some like the speedrun play but thats what friends are for. more reliable and better communication and all that.

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Sirous wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

LMAO @ this ridiculous thread. I mean, I agree with some of these, but a numbered list to detail "Here's how I think about the game, and so should you" comes across as more than a little Narcissistic.


I take it as Here's how I think about the game and this is why I have fun with it. So much more refreshing than three quarters of the posts except some of the MEME and new Joke posts that seem to be popping up recently


Pretty much. Its a co-op game with no stat tracker or leaderboard (other then an N7 ranking which means nothing about skill level) So why do people take it so serious when they fail a mission?

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Rodrrigoww wrote...

I shamelessly kick people with crap loadout on gold , seriously , I'm not willing to throw some 20 minutes away .I play on the ps3 and more often than not i find myself:
1- killing everything
2- completing objectives
3- using medigels in objective waves when nobody feels like it and then saving everybody
4 reviving everyone

well you know the drill , it may sound arrogant , but it's not , it's anger , completing gold in 30minutes + and carrying everybody on my back?No , a game is supposed to be fun.


Its supposed to be challenging too

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This post was obviously nerfed.

It needs moar rockets.

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another point, if you sit and kick those you deem unworthy of your time (aimed at any and all) do you not waste time waiting to fill your room?

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upinya slayin wrote...

I'm reading the forums and you all talk about kicking this person and how the team failed even though you carried them and everyone else sucked etc etc.

1st off let me start by saying i'm in no way implying i'm an elite player or i'm the best but...

1) i've never kicked any player for any reason including load out, N7 rating, etc
2) i've gotten through a gold random random with 2 random people and 1 friend. teh 2 random people were N7 rating of 1 (with a predator 1 and mantis 1, obviously his 1ts game ever) and like a 42. sure they didn't kill much but we made it through, i see it as a challenge not an annoyance
3) i've never complained about people using the krysea and infiltrator. If they want to kill everyhting easy its less pressure on me. I don't care about the score
4) I revive eveyrone, even at the cost of my own life. 95% of the time the favor is returned in the game.
5) If i'm playing with randoms who die alot i take less chances so they don't have to revive me. It makes teh game take longer but so what
6) I have no issue burning through 5 gels and 5 rockets eveyr gold match i play. i can always buy more anyway. there not hard to find. I'm not gonna get mad cause someone else doesn't
7) I swore (i know its impossible but i have no other explanaiton) that i seen a random miss a heavy melee on a nemisis when she was the last one left and she did a back flip and he died. She must have shot him somehow but we all had a running joke that he got melee's to death by a nemisis. we got a good laugh out of it and dind't kick him
8) We all know the game has glitches and issues, but it doens't ruin the fun. I've lost credits and XP due to disconnects, I've flown off the map as a vanguard, got 1 hitted by an invisible banshee etc. but teh game is still fun and i'm not gonna complain about it
9) I don't think i'm teh greatest player ever and everyone should bow to my greatness
10) i like to joke around and communicate with other while playing. big deal. isn't taht part of the online exp. I'd rather play with someone who is cool to play with but not very good then someone who is awesone and won't use a mic or stays silent the whole game
11) I don't complain weapons should be buffed or nerfed. let it go. BW made the weopons, they'll adjust as they see fit. stop teling them what to do. yeah my eagle sucks but so what. I won't use it. I have 40 other guns to pick from. I'll find a way to shoot somehting with another gun. I promise

It seems if more people thought this way there would be less complaining and more enjoying of the game


I fully agree, thx for posting.