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wantedman dan wrote...

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Sir, your argument is ****.

"We can't beat them conventionally" is an UNDERSTATEMENT. They would be annihilated.The Reapers have been around for millions of years. The fact that it took multiple fleets to take down Sovereign (ONE capital ship) back in ME1 shows how powerful a Reaper armada is.


lol ****** off, rube. 

Did you even pay attention to the cutscene depicting the battle? If you did, you would have noticed the GETH ARMADA following Sovereign. That contributed to the destruction in a much larger manner than Sovereign.

The Reapers have never faced such an amassed fleet, at least by Javik's interpretation. The Reapers took casualties--this was in the war cutscene. They're obviously not indestructable and they're obviously not as powerful as they bullshat at us.


he's right, The Reaper cycles were only ever so successful because they snuck in through the back door and hit the Citadel first, This scenario is much different, I still think it would be very even fighting the Reapers 100% conventionally, but I think if the crucible acted as some barrier overload device that could bring down the Reapers barriers.. permanently, then the galaxy could take the upper hand in the battle and fight them head on.

I'd love to see that.

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wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


As they should.

Where is he anyway 

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Right back at yeah, dude. Your answer? Kind of below mine in my opinion.


Oh, the "I'm rubber, you're glue" argument. I wasn't aware you returned to the third grade.

Be sure not to eat the paste, though I've heard it tastes quite yummy.

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Alright don't have twitter is this real or trolling

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sparkyo42 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

Makrys wrote...


On the other hand the idea that of everyone that signed off on what we got, nobody in the room raised the question what happens if this goes wrong? What happens if the fans don't see our vision? To me that's the elephant in the room. These people know more about gaming habits and us than we imagine I'm sure.

To take a gamble that they could end like this and come back 6-9 months later with DLC (that we'd pay for on top of €90's worth of first day) is a huge gamble that I don't see a high up signing off on. The potential risks were and have been proven to be huge. The core buy Bioware now matter what, how many left TOR after ME3.

To me if everyone in the room nodded their heads to this they deserve the damage this has done.


I believe they intended a DLC later, to flesh out the endings and reveal said 'twist'. But yes, they did NOT know they would receive so much backlash from the current endings. So they instead reprioritized their DLC schedule to provide that planned DLC now.


Then they dropped the ball utterly, and this fallout should have been more. The idea that you'd have to pay months after the game you bought to get an actually ending to it defies belief. It's not clever or smart it's a pathetic attempt to squeeze more money out of the consumer.

And before you point out it's free, it's only free because they know they can't get away with charging for it.

I hope this stunt haunts them.


Someone needs to tell Capcom that. Cough..cough..Asura's Wrath..cough cough.

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Naruana wrote...

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Too early to judge. The EC will reveal what is true.


The very fact that the endings required EC in such a manner speaks to its poor execution.

Assuming the endings are in fact the ending.

so they sold an incomplete product saying that it was complete?

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I will remain optimistic until I have no further reason to.


Despite everything telling you to be otherwise in this process, you're still optimistic. That's truly incredible and naïve.


That I don't do what pessimistic people tell me to? Lol. Then I'll be naive till the day I die! 

Yeah, I'm not for hating on people because it suits my agenda to hate. I'm a very optimistic person. I don't live my life based on how people tell me I should. And no one has told me to be pessimistic. I have no reason to be.

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garrusfan1 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


As they should.

Where is he anyway 


Hiding in a cave just outside of Tikrit, Iraq.

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They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.

I can't even imagine what would happen to him if he walked into Times Square. Lots of violence?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


I don't know, if the EC turns to be a huge success I can see him talking to the public since the fanbase would probably forgive him for his past sins.

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That I don't do what everyone tells me to? Lol. Then I'll be naive till the day I die! 

Yeah, I'm not for hating on people because it suits my agenda to hate. I'm a very optimistic person. I don't live my life based on how people tell me I should. And no one has told me to be pessimistic. I have no reason to be.


lol, no ad populum. You and I both know that's a logical fallacy.

The very facts that they lied from the beginning concerning the endings, they dropped (or corrupted) numerous storylines at will, they denied--publicly--ever considering the EC before the backlash, etc speak volumes. Ignoring those and insulting everyone "hating on Bioware" is just as nonsensical as what you claim the people are doing.

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Makrys wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

Makrys wrote...



I believe they intended a DLC later, to flesh out the endings and reveal said 'twist'. But yes, they did NOT know they would receive so much backlash from the current endings. So they instead reprioritized their DLC schedule to provide that planned DLC now.


Then they dropped the ball utterly, and this fallout should have been more. The idea that you'd have to pay months after the game you bought to get an actually ending to it defies belief. It's not clever or smart it's a pathetic attempt to squeeze more money out of the consumer.

And before you point out it's free, it's only free because they know they can't get away with charging for it.

I hope this stunt haunts them.


I highly doubt they would have charged for it. And you don't know that they would have. Hate all you want. I will remain optimistic until I have no further reason to.


And you have no idea if it owuld be free. It's EA/Bioware they would  try to charge for it. Any other SP DLC that's made will cost.

But even if you're right, are you seriously ok with an acepted game practice of an ending months after you buy the game? Do you want every single game you have to end with "get more DLC to get the last 5 minutes"

It's not Hate, Ijust can't understand the logic behind this plan, other than PO as sector of the fans that have been loyal.

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felipejiraya wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


I don't know, if the EC turns to be a huge success I can see him talking to the public since the fanbase would probably forgive him for his past sins.


I think it will placate a majority of people with a LI reunion. Everyone else will leave. It's a cop out, but a very smart one.

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Baa Baa wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.

I can't even imagine what would happen to him if he walked into Times Square. Lots of violence?



naa. lots of boos and being peted with frute? yes. his name is mud now though i know that much.

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zovoes wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.

I can't even imagine what would happen to him if he walked into Times Square. Lots of violence?



naa. lots of boos and being peted with frute? yes. his name is mud now though i know that much.

Probably. But I can imagine if he went to a restaurant and ordered anything, rest assured, someone would pull a Fight Club and urinate or masturbate into his food...

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Taboo-XX wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


I don't know, if the EC turns to be a huge success I can see him talking to the public since the fanbase would probably forgive him for his past sins.


I think it will placate a majority of people with a LI reunion. Everyone else will leave. It's a cop out, but a very smart one.


I have said many a time, if I get an LI reunion and it is a good lengthy one, almost all will be forgiven.

#242
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Baa Baa wrote...

zovoes wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.

I can't even imagine what would happen to him if he walked into Times Square. Lots of violence?



naa. lots of boos and being peted with frute? yes. his name is mud now though i know that much.

Probably. But I can imagine if he went to a restaurant and ordered anything, rest assured, someone would pull a Fight Club and urinate or masturbate into his food...


And/or Waiting...'s drop and slop with saliva.

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Well now we know why the *stickies* were released from their respective positions.

They need no further input, as if that even mattered.

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Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


I don't know, if the EC turns to be a huge success I can see him talking to the public since the fanbase would probably forgive him for his past sins.


I think it will placate a majority of people with a LI reunion. Everyone else will leave. It's a cop out, but a very smart one.


I have said many a time, if I get an LI reunion and it is a good lengthy one, almost all will be forgiven.


And at the end of the day strip away all your it was planned stuff, as Taboo-X has said that's what they're going to throw out to buy off people.

It's not Artistic or clever or smart just an emotional attack on the fanbase to try and undo the self inflicted wound.

#245
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wantedman dan wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


As they should.

Where is he anyway 


Hiding in a cave just outside of Tikrit, Iraq.
Well put honestly though you didn't see him at PAX or E3 if I remember right and has he even been on twitter lately



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Yeah... I doubt it.

#247
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wantedman dan wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


As they should.

Where is he anyway 


Hiding in a cave just outside of Tikrit, Iraq.
Well put honestly though you didn't see him at PAX or E3 if I remember right and has he even been on twitter lately



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Well put honestly though you didn't see him at PAX or E3 if I remember right and has he even been on twitter lately


Since March 17th, I believe.

He knows, EA knows, everybody at Bioware knows, and the fans know--each and every one--that if he were to talk, he and his every word would be absolutely eviscerated.  

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wantedman dan wrote...

Makrys wrote...

That I don't do what everyone tells me to? Lol. Then I'll be naive till the day I die! 

Yeah, I'm not for hating on people because it suits my agenda to hate. I'm a very optimistic person. I don't live my life based on how people tell me I should. And no one has told me to be pessimistic. I have no reason to be.


lol, no ad populum. You and I both know that's a logical fallacy.

The very facts that they lied from the beginning concerning the endings, they dropped (or corrupted) numerous storylines at will, they denied--publicly--ever considering the EC before the backlash, etc speak volumes. Ignoring those and insulting everyone "hating on Bioware" is just as nonsensical as what you claim the people are doing.


I never insulted anyone. I have an opinion, and so you do. If you think I'm stupid for my opinion, then that's fine. I didn't ask for you to agree with it. I simply expect to you respect it as I respect yours.

And for the record, I believe some form the IT will be true. So that is probably why we disagree so heavily, because I know you do not.

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sparkyo42 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

They dropped the ball.

Big time.

BIG ****ing time.

Hudson will never face the public again. The fanbase will eat him alive.


I don't know, if the EC turns to be a huge success I can see him talking to the public since the fanbase would probably forgive him for his past sins.


I think it will placate a majority of people with a LI reunion. Everyone else will leave. It's a cop out, but a very smart one.


I have said many a time, if I get an LI reunion and it is a good lengthy one, almost all will be forgiven.


And at the end of the day strip away all your it was planned stuff, as Taboo-X has said that's what they're going to throw out to buy off people.

It's not Artistic or clever or smart just an emotional attack on the fanbase to try and undo the self inflicted wound.


You and I disagree. So, it is natural you would agree with someone who shares your beliefs. That is fine. I'm not trying to get you to sway. I wasn't even talking about the ending being planned, I was referring to an LI reunion. You brought it up again. Agree to disagree and move on.