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[MegaSovereign]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

You think it's stupid to not have your entire fleet stick around when a weapon of mass destruction goes off that could do some serious damage to the galaxy if it's energy is not focused by a missing piece they haven't gotten a chance to study, is a bad idea?

Sounds like you're going to be unhappy no matter if the reasons are logical.

So you're saying constructing a weapon of mass destruction that could go off and do some serious damage to then galaxy if its energy is not focused by a missing piece they haven't gotten a chance to study isn't a bad idea? Furtherore, you're saying it isn't a bad idea to fire said weapon without knowing what in the ever-living-Hell it would do?

"F*ck it, let's try out that new H-bomb in the middle of goddamn San Fran."

What choice do they have? They can't beat the Reapers conventionally.

And come on, they were exaggerating with the whole "we have no idea what it does." How the hell do you build something without having the slightest clue to what it can do. They AT LEAST knew that it transfers energy using the mass relays. What they didn't know was whether they built it well enough to where it doesn't backfire and obliterate everything. This is where EMS comes into play.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 20 juin 2012 - 03:07 .

[wantedman dan]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Uh, Hackett telling the fleet to get away before bomb goes off has no logic? I think it does. Because it sounds better then bomb going off with fleet right next to it.

It's either safe enough to fire near Earth--near billions of allied combatants and civilians already on the ground--or it isn't and the point is moot anyway. 

[chemiclord]

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I heard it from Michael Gamble.

We have eight hour meetings where I come from too.

But those are serious meetings. Like we have an issue meetings.

You'd think they would have had those when someone presented those abysmal ending options in the first place, but no.

ENOUGH!

You can wallow in bitterness and misery... as fans have always done.

Or you can cast aside "woulda" and "shoulda", and hope for a better future for the series.

I choose to hope.

Who is with me?

[Taboo]

wantedman dan wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Something went wrong. And Mac Walters and Casey Hudson are at the helm.

When something like this fails, it is either the script, or the director. This has happened time and time again. It will happen again in the future.

Are you suggesting they're Reapers?

The cycle has repeated itself more times than you can fathom.

It's not a bad comparison.

Michael Cimino's **** up with Heaven's Gate changed the way people made movies. It was that big of a **** up.

[felipejiraya]

I will only believe that it's done when he says it's done.

For now this sequences of tweets can merely be a really damn good session of tantric sex.

[TMA LIVE]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Uh, Hackett telling the fleet to get away before bomb goes off has no logic? I think it does. Because it sounds better then bomb going off with fleet right next to it.

It's either safe enough to fire near Earth--near billions of allied combatants and civilians already on the ground--or it isn't and the point is moot anyway. 

There's an entire galaxy then Earth. Stop thinking small. If Earth goes, who cares compared to the Fleet of the Entire Galaxy?

Save Fleet, screw Earth.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 juin 2012 - 03:10 .

[wantedman dan]

MegaSovereign wrote...

What choice do they have? They can't beat the Reapers conventionally.

And come on, they were exaggerating with the whole "we have no idea what it does." How the hell do you build something without having the slightest clue to what it can do. They AT LEAST knew that it transfers energy using the mass relays. What they didn't know was whether they built it well enough to where it doesn't backfire and obliterate everything. This is where EMS comes into play.

If you're going to call exaggeration on "we have no idea what it does,"

I claim exaggeration on "We can't beat them conventionally." Obviously, if you had high enough Military Score, you kicked Reaper ass above Earth.

EMS is quite another ridiculous argument.

[Devil Mingy]

TMA LIVE wrote...


There's an entire galaxy then Earth. Stop thinking small. If Earth goes, who cares compared to the Fleet of the Entire Galaxy?

Save Fleet, screw Earth.

Mass Effect 3's marketing?

[wantedman dan]

chemiclord wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I heard it from Michael Gamble.

We have eight hour meetings where I come from too.

But those are serious meetings. Like we have an issue meetings.

You'd think they would have had those when someone presented those abysmal ending options in the first place, but no.

ENOUGH!

You can wallow in bitterness and misery... as fans have always done.

Or you can cast aside "woulda" and "shoulda", and hope for a better future for the series.

I choose to hope.

Who is with me?

F*CK OFF BAKARA -headbutts Wreav-

[wantedman dan]

TMA LIVE wrote...

There's an entire galaxy then Earth. Stop thinking small. If Earth goes, who cares compared to the Fleet of the Entire Galaxy?

Save Fleet, screw Earth.

Umm, the billions who potentially just died on the ground which are comprised of the allied forces of every race?

[Makrys]

There's two ways you can look at it, the entire team was involved in making the ending (which Bioware has confirmed) and they simply intended the endings as they are; open, confusing, 'dream like', etc. to later reveal a 'twist' in a future DLC.

Or you believe that Hudson and Walters shut everyone off and wrote the ending on their own (which Bioware has denied repeatedly) and they both willingly sent their trilogy to hell because somehow when it came to the final 10 minutes they lost all ability to think logically. Also, forgot everything the trilogy was built on.

People are free to believe what they want. I will choose to believe what Bioware has confirmed, and what makes sense from both a business standpoint and a realistic standpoint.

It is ridiculous to think that Walters and Hudson were the only ones involved with the ending. Its been denied numerous times, yet people still flaunt it about because it suits their agenda to hate on Bioware. It is impossible to even do such a thing. The script has to go threw many stages, and even before Mr. Muzyka himself, before it is put into action. There is no way everyone at Bioware would let the end fly... unless they all knew it wasn't 'over' yet.

I know I will get flamed for this, but I don't care. It is impossible for what some of you are proclaiming to have happened, actually happened. It doesn't work that way. You don't have to believe me. I'm just telling you.

[TMA LIVE]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

There's an entire galaxy then Earth. Stop thinking small. If Earth goes, who cares compared to the Fleet of the Entire Galaxy?

Save Fleet, screw Earth.

Umm, the billions who potentially just died on the ground which are comprised of the allied forces of every race?

Ground forces die anyways from ships dropping rocks on them Bring Down The Sky Style.

Fleet is more important.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 20 juin 2012 - 03:13 .

[The Milky Waver]

Baa Baa wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

zovoes wrote...

sparkyo42 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

The Milky Waver wrote...

Brace yourselves. This will either make or break the Mass Effect universe for us all...even more.

This... the day the Extended Cut is released.... there may be peace... or.... there will be a ****storm.... that we cannot even comprehend

This.

Unfotunately.

I doubt it, those who care have either decided to forgive or have lost interest in caring. In the end that was the main point of the EC.

to make people go "**** it i'm out"?

how many are left that will come back after this time and care to the same level of outrage?
Those that are going to download it are in one way or another aleady willingly to forgive and forget, those that aren't won't . The EC pushed the the backlash off the radar and gave them time to PR it.

My expectations fo rthe EC are so low that my collectors edition disc can stay as a beermat, it's more use to me than on the PC.

This. I'm one of those people who isn't even going to bother with Bioware anymore if the EC sucks, since, hey, Halo 4, Assassin's Creed 3, Dead Space 3, Crysis 3. If it does an amazing job of providing closure, I'll say "It's about damn time, some closure!" and go back to playing other games, and maybe a bit of ME3 multiplayer here and there. This whole rage storm over the ending has worn me out, and I'm sure many other people feel the same way. 

This one looks a little iffy to me... but that's because I'm a huge fan of Dead Space and I don't like the direction they're going with it. But I agree with everything you said.

I don't like where they're going with Isaac being so insanely obsessed with Ellie, but I'll give the game a chance.

Modifié par The Milky Waver, 20 juin 2012 - 03:14 .

[wantedman dan]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ground forces die anyways from ships dropping rocks on them Bring Down The Sky Style.

Fleet is more important.

In that case Earth is irrelevant and the battle above it was pointless.

[LazyTechGuy]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Uh, Hackett telling the fleet to get away before bomb goes off has no logic? I think it does. Because it sounds better then bomb going off with fleet right next to it. Especially if fleet is the only other chance you got against the Reapers, as Hackett says if it doesn't work.

So they build it, dock it at Earth, set up a floating fortress to protect it all while fighting the biggest space battle this side of Hell, only to say after about 10 minutes, "You know, eff it, let's light this joint. Everyone bounce."

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 20 juin 2012 - 03:16 .

[Makrys]

Taboo-XX wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Something went wrong. And Mac Walters and Casey Hudson are at the helm.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even if they didn't write this together, they executed it POORLY.

Assuming the endings are to be taken at face value. Which they have implied many times, they are not.

[TMA LIVE]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ground forces die anyways from ships dropping rocks on them Bring Down The Sky Style.

Fleet is more important.

In that case Earth is irrelevant and the battle above it was pointless.

The battle above was for the bomb. Same with below. Once Crucible and Catalyst is ready, it goes off or doesn't. If it goes off in a bad way, you make sure you save what you can.

[wantedman dan]

Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Something went wrong. And Mac Walters and Casey Hudson are at the helm.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even if they didn't write this together, they executed it POORLY.

Assuming the endings are to be taken at face value. Which they have implied many times, they are not.

Which was executed poorly.

[TheClonesLegacy]

@themilkywaver
Halo 4 is splitting off into a new Halo Trilogy
so no, the closure will be in Halo 6
(Sorry if that's not what you meant it's how I read it)

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 20 juin 2012 - 03:20 .

[Heiwa no Senso]

The Milky Waver wrote...

*MASSIVE snip

is this egypt? cause i see pyramids.

@TheClonesLegacy: thats a game i hoped would never come.
for the most part, halo 3 ended it on a good note (nevermind the legendary ending, bungie has a knack for cliffhangers)
'let the sleeping dogs lie'
or for the more blunt
'don't beat a dead horse'

Modifié par Heiwa no Senso, 20 juin 2012 - 03:21 .

[wantedman dan]

TMA LIVE wrote...

The battle above was for the bomb. Same with below. Once Crucible and Catalyst is ready, it goes off or doesn't. If it goes off in a bad way, you make sure you save what you can.

So, back to the original point. They're idiots for constructing a weapon of mass destruction that has unknown consequences.

[Makrys]

wantedman dan wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Something went wrong. And Mac Walters and Casey Hudson are at the helm.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even if they didn't write this together, they executed it POORLY.

Assuming the endings are to be taken at face value. Which they have implied many times, they are not.

Which was executed poorly.

Too early to judge. The EC will reveal what is true.

[TMA LIVE]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Uh, Hackett telling the fleet to get away before bomb goes off has no logic? I think it does. Because it sounds better then bomb going off with fleet right next to it. Especially if fleet is the only other chance you got against the Reapers, as Hackett says if it doesn't work.

So they build it, dock it at Earth, set up a floating fortress to protect it all while fighting the biggest space battle this side of Hell, only to say after about 10 minutes, "You know, eff it, let's light this joint. Everyone bounce."

They probably lefted fleets to protect the Crucible as suicide shields, while the rest retreated so they don't get hit by whatever that thing is going to fire.

[Progman Omega]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ground forces die anyways from ships dropping rocks on them Bring Down The Sky Style.

Fleet is more important.

In that case Earth is irrelevant and the battle above it was pointless.

Well duh.

If the fleets cared about Earth they wouldn't be shooting directly at it.

[TMA LIVE]

wantedman dan wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

The battle above was for the bomb. Same with below. Once Crucible and Catalyst is ready, it goes off or doesn't. If it goes off in a bad way, you make sure you save what you can.

So, back to the original point. They're idiots for constructing a weapon of mass destruction that has unknown consequences.

That or die like the Protheans, and the ones before them.