Oggy666 wrote...
Gockey wrote...
Your solution would just encourage more people to farm. You realize that right? I never finish wave 10. Once the objective is done, I'm off to melee a banshee/atlas/prime. Sadly they sometimes die =(
Extraction is pointless. In a good lobby you kill practically nothing on wave 10 unless it is a kill target wave. Anyone arguing is doing it wrong.
No, it doesn't. It only gives them reason to play to the end - how it is meant to play. 3 more minutes is not that much, considering time about 25 min. Why they don't go for speedruns?...in that time they could earn 150K.
No, they play 25-30 minutes to get 75K, die on purpose and say that extraction is pointless - now my "solution" gives the Point to the extraction: same money, same goal.....if extraction wasn't the point of this game, why is it there at all???
You wrote about reducing credits for people that fail to extract. That's called penalizing people. 3 more minutes is a lot considering we are talking 15 minute runs. I'd take a 20% reduction in time on any run I do. Why would I volunteer to spend an extra 20% longer per run for no reason? By extension if I am not extracting that amounts to one more run every 5 runs that you won't be doing. Why would I not take that extra 75k?
Now if I am forced into extracting, then speedruns are less speedy, so just to maintain the status quo I am going to be pigeonholed into even more set patterns and maps just to try to keep making money at the same pace. This games population is already on the decline (just a personal opinion judging from people on my lists that used to play and longer do), why would you want to alienate more people by nerfing their credits. RNG is evil enough.
Extraction exists to help people level up and provide a definite end to a match. Instead of being like the first 10 waves you actually see a endless spawn (like a hack wave) so it needs a dynamic break. The shuttle at the LZ is it.
humes spork wrote...
Gockey wrote...
...Nothing you have written is disproves that it is pointless to play past wave 10...
Have you considered I'm addressing this sentiment, right here? Namely, that you've taken it upon yourself to denigrate and lecture others for playing the game in a manner you have deemed "pointless".
Personally, I enjoy completing wave 10 and extracting. It's a satisfying conclusion to a match that has, hopefully to that point, been well-played. I don't play to max credit gain, nor min-max or optimize in any other way. I play the game because I think the very act of playing alone is incentive enough -- that is to say, to have fun.
Would you want someone calling you selfish, silly, asinine, pointless, or any of these other abusive terms you've heaped upon people who like to extract because you dare play vanguard, as you mentioned earlier? It is a suboptimal class, after all. If being a munchkin is your idea of fun, more power to you. Don't denigrate others for having a different conception of fun than you, especially when your conception of what is an acceptable level of optimization is completely arbitrary.
*yawn* Your personal opinion does not make it worth extracting. Sorry kiddo. The fact remains there is no reason. No one really cares what you enjoy.
You should probably also google the term abusive. If you really still think it applies, you should goole context.
Lastly, I think your personal attacks are hilarious as I've stated previously, and now you want to lecture me on my diction? Pot meet kettle.
To wrap it all up, your not more important than anyone else. Your a hypocrite. You obviously are incompetent if you think Vanguards cant do speedruns on Glacier. And your a terrible troll.
Thanks for playing.
Modifié par Gockey, 21 juin 2012 - 02:48 .
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