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In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.
However, i dont get one thing- if the hero is seeker then the hero surely cant be a mage.

Anyway guys, would u like ur hero to be a seeker?

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Why not.

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As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.

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But if the protagonist is seeker, we cant choose the mage class

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Faerunner wrote...

As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.


Ahem, Im a bit confused here. Arent seekers supposed to be agents of the chantry or templar or something. I think that kinda rules out dwarf and kossith. Hey atlest theres City elf and human.Posted Image

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Spicen wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.


Ahem, Im a bit confused here. Arent seekers supposed to be agents of the chantry or templar or something. I think that kinda rules out dwarf and kossith.


There was a chantry dwarf in DA:O, wasn't there? I'm pretty sure a dwarf could be a seeker. We'd probably be stuck playing a human anyways though.

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We'd probably be stuck playing a human anyways though.

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Yep, absolutely. And i bet Leliana might be a companion.Posted Image(OH ****!!!!)

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Spicen wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.


Ahem, Im a bit confused here. Arent seekers supposed to be agents of the chantry or templar or something. I think that kinda rules out dwarf and kossith. Hey atlest theres City elf and human.Posted Image


I've played both games (the first quite a few times) and I have yet to see an elven priest, chanter or templar. I think that only humans get to work for the Chantry, meaning that all other races would be excluded, not just dwarves and kossith. Unless Bioware found some clever mitigating circumstance to allow other races to become a Seeker (as I'm sure they'll do for the mage class), then I don't want one.

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NO!!!

I want to be a regular person. I have no interest in playing a Seeker. I dont care if one is a companion however.

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Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.
However, i dont get one thing- if the hero is seeker then the hero surely cant be a mage.

Anyway guys, would u like ur hero to be a seeker?

As always, feel free to give ur comments.Posted Image



I pray they change that. Because I will seriously consider not buying it. I do NOT WANT To be forced to play somebody that is PRO CHANTRY

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Faerunner wrote...

Spicen wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.


Ahem, Im a bit confused here. Arent seekers supposed to be agents of the chantry or templar or something. I think that kinda rules out dwarf and kossith. Hey atlest theres City elf and human.Posted Image


I've played both games (the first quite a few times) and I have yet to see an elven priest, chanter or templar. I think that only humans get to work for the Chantry, meaning that all other races would be excluded, not just dwarves and kossith. Unless Bioware found some clever mitigating circumstance to allow other races to become a Seeker (as I'm sure they'll do for the mage class), then I don't want one.


True but city elves maybe forced to join due to the war with mages. You know humans love making the city elves do aLl the dirty work.Posted Image

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I pray they change that. Because I will seriously consider not buying it. I do NOT WANT To be forced to play somebody that is PRO CHANTRY


Ugh, good point. Here I've been complaining about having my race decided for me, but being a Seeker also pretty much has your religion decided for you too. >_< (I knew this franchise was sliding more toward religon-centered protagonists!)

Unless they created some clever external circumstances that forces your character to join the order for motives that are left up to the individual character (kind of like how the protagonist is forced to join the Grey Warden Order in DA:O due to external circumstances, even if they don't personally want to or don't believe in the Grey Waden mantra), having your personal beliefs, convictions and religion decided for you sucks.

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NO!!!

I want to be a regular person. I have no interest in playing a Seeker. I dont care if one is a companion however.


I doubt theyll make the next protagonist a regular person bcoz lets not forget Hawke was a regular person and his TALE was pretty unsuccessful. However, this IS bioware we are talkng about maybe the seeker will have planty of chances to make important decisions(Although my guts are telling me that the hero will be forced to make peace peace between mage and templars instead of having choice to join either group).

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Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.
However, i dont get one thing- if the hero is seeker then the hero surely cant be a mage.

Anyway guys, would u like ur hero to be a seeker?

Not all of them, no. In fact, being forced to play a pro-Chantry character = no sale, as far as I'm concerned. If the option is available as a specialization, I might take it once or twice, but I'm definitely not in favor of mandating a political and religious stance on all playthroughs.

It is also possible that he was talking about a companion, not the protagonist. Although given how out of touch Mr. Laidlaw can be with his fan base, it is possible that is exactly what he meant. Personally, I think that making the protagonist a Seeker would be disastrous for the franchise. Customer loyalty only goes so far.

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berelinde wrote...

Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.
However, i dont get one thing- if the hero is seeker then the hero surely cant be a mage.

Anyway guys, would u like ur hero to be a seeker?

Not all of them, no. In fact, being forced to play a pro-Chantry character = no sale, as far as I'm concerned. If the option is available as a specialization, I might take it once or twice, but I'm definitely not in favor of mandating a political and religious stance on all playthroughs.

It is also possible that he was talking about a companion, not the protagonist. Although given how out of touch Mr. Laidlaw can be with his fan base, it is possible that is exactly what he meant. Personally, I think that making the protagonist a Seeker would be disastrous for the franchise. Customer loyalty only goes so far.



This upsets me to the point I am considering tweeting him. And you're right.  Game would flop.

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berelinde wrote...

Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.
However, i dont get one thing- if the hero is seeker then the hero surely cant be a mage.

Anyway guys, would u like ur hero to be a seeker?

Not all of them, no. In fact, being forced to play a pro-Chantry character = no sale, as far as I'm concerned. If the option is available as a specialization, I might take it once or twice, but I'm definitely not in favor of mandating a political and religious stance on all playthroughs.

It is also possible that he was talking about a companion, not the protagonist. Although given how out of touch Mr. Laidlaw can be with his fan base, it is possible that is exactly what he meant. Personally, I think that making the protagonist a Seeker would be disastrous for the franchise. Customer loyalty only goes so far.


Maybe he did. Anyways you can browse the net and search for news regarding this maybe youll find what he really meant.

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As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.


Ahem, Im a bit confused here. Arent seekers supposed to be agents of the chantry or templar or something. I think that kinda rules out dwarf and kossith. Hey atlest theres City elf and human.Posted Image


I've played both games (the first quite a few times) and I have yet to see an elven priest, chanter or templar. I think that only humans get to work for the Chantry, meaning that all other races would be excluded, not just dwarves and kossith. Unless Bioware found some clever mitigating circumstance to allow other races to become a Seeker (as I'm sure they'll do for the mage class), then I don't want one.


True but city elves maybe forced to join due to the war with mages. You know humans love making the city elves do aLl the dirty work.Posted Image



True, and dwarves have magic immunity and lyrium knowledge that would make them useful against mages, and kossith are powerhouses that probably have ideas on how to deal with mages thanks to the Qunari culture's extreme hostility of magic.

Anyway, I think the Seekers are a very prestigious order filled with the best of the best (Cassandra Pentaghast is Nevarran royalty for instance), so I think they would feel more degraded to have an elf among them than anything else. The more I think about it, the more I think dwarves and even kossith would be far more likely to be allowed to be Seekers, with elves the least likely.

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Spicen wrote...

But if the protagonist is seeker, we cant choose the mage class


Aah, that explains a bit of the dilemma. 

If I were you, Bioware, I'd cleverly integrate a seeker story line with as many races as possible, and surely make the option of being a mage.

We could have a renegade/pro-chantry in seperate to the characteristics' (do-gooder/psycho/etc (NOT paragon/renegade)) protagonist, with two (branching) story lines. That would make many happy, I presume.

edit: the two story lines could work well with many a race. We could have Kossith and Elven mage as anti-chantry exclusively, yet other race options available for that story line as well (renegade human, dwarf) - and we could also have the exclusively  pro-chantry human, dwarf and maybe an elf. Though Human could very easily be the exclusively pro-chantry one as well - that would inspire trying out different races, as you cannot go anti-chantry with a human (and pro-chantry with a Kossith).

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I wouldn't mind, as long as we don't get an Orlesian accent.
 

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I wouldn't mind, as long as we don't get an Orlesian accent.
 


Oh yeah we will that much is confirmed. Mr. Laidlaw said," we want the location to be more french."

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eroeru wrote...

Spicen wrote...

But if the protagonist is seeker, we cant choose the mage class


Aah, that explains a bit of the dilemma. 

If I were you, Bioware, I'd cleverly integrate a seeker story line with as many races as possible, and surely make the option of being a mage.

We could have a renegade/pro-chantry in seperate to the characteristics' (do-gooder/psycho/etc (NOT paragon/renegade)) protagonist, with two (branching) story lines. That would make many happy, I presume.

edit: the two story lines could work well with many a race. We could have Kossith and Elven mage as anti-chantry exclusively, yet other race options available for that story line as well (renegade human, dwarf) - and we could also have the exclusively  pro-chantry human, dwarf and maybe an elf. Though Human could very easily be the exclusively pro-chantry one as well - that would inspire trying out different races, as you cannot go anti-chantry with a human (and pro-chantry with a Kossith).


Or maybe...

The seeker cud be a mage spy.....

More DA 2 nija hack slash again i guessPosted Image

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Spicen wrote...

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

I wouldn't mind, as long as we don't get an Orlesian accent.
 


Oh yeah we will that much is confirmed. Mr. Laidlaw said," we want the location to be more french."


That doesnt mean are character will be Orlesian though. They could be from another country living in Orlais.

They want the game to sell. I doubt the character will have an accent when half the players dont want it.

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eroeru wrote...

Spicen wrote...

But if the protagonist is seeker, we cant choose the mage class


Aah, that explains a bit of the dilemma. 

If I were you, Bioware, I'd cleverly integrate a seeker story line with as many races as possible, and surely make the option of being a mage.

We could have a renegade/pro-chantry in seperate to the characteristics' (do-gooder/psycho/etc (NOT paragon/renegade)) protagonist, with two (branching) story lines. That would make many happy, I presume.


I think the extreme bipartisan conflict was part of what many people disliked about DA2. How you had to be extremely pro-mage or pro-templar with no choice to be neutral. Likewise, with this game, making people have to be extremely pro-Chantry or anti-Chantry (with no choice to be neutral) is probably not the best route.

I think the way they did it in Origins, with varying levels of devotion or antagonism for the order that the protagonist joins (Grey Warden Order for Origins), would be best.

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edit: the two story lines could work well with many a race. We could have Kossith and Elven mage as anti-chantry exclusively, yet other race options available for that story line as well (renegade human, dwarf) - and we could also have the exclusively  pro-chantry human, dwarf and maybe an elf. Though Human could very easily be the exclusively pro-chantry one as well - that would inspire trying out different races, as you cannot go anti-chantry with a human (and pro-chantry with a Kossith).


Eh, I don't think that's such a good idea. Having your character's personal beliefs decided for you is not very good for a role-playing game. There will probably be plenty of people who'll want to make atheist humans, devoted elves, etc. You never know. I think it would be better to go the Origins route and just let the character express their personal opinions in conversations (regardless of their race, but maybe have the dialogue just tweaked a little to acknowledge their race) and build from there.

Differing religious beliefs and levels of devotion? Awesome.

Having said religious beliefs and levels of devotion pre-determined exclusively by race? Not so much.

EDIT: I like that your ideas are open to different races though! ^-^

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eroeru wrote...

Spicen wrote...

But if the protagonist is seeker, we cant choose the mage class


Aah, that explains a bit of the dilemma. 

If I were you, Bioware, I'd cleverly integrate a seeker story line with as many races as possible, and surely make the option of being a mage.

We could have a renegade/pro-chantry in seperate to the characteristics' (do-gooder/psycho/etc (NOT paragon/renegade)) protagonist, with two (branching) story lines. That would make many happy, I presume.

edit: the two story lines could work well with many a race. We could have Kossith and Elven mage as anti-chantry exclusively, yet other race options available for that story line as well (renegade human, dwarf) - and we could also have the exclusively  pro-chantry human, dwarf and maybe an elf. Though Human could very easily be the exclusively pro-chantry one as well - that would inspire trying out different races, as you cannot go anti-chantry with a human (and pro-chantry with a Kossith).



Um...what about the gamers who are ANTI CHANTRY and want to play Human??? Not every humans were pro chantry in DA:2 you know.

Sorry but the game would FLOP if they went that route.

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