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[Spicen]

* double post*

Modifié par Spicen, 20 juin 2012 - 08:29 .

[eroeru]

Faerunner wrote...
Differing religious beliefs and levels of devotion? Awesome.

Having said religious beliefs and levels of devotion pre-determined exclusively by race? Not so much.

EDIT: I like that your ideas are open to different races though! ^-^

Yeah, you're probably right. Didn't make much effort to utter the thought though... And I'm guessing the guys at BW do have such dilemmas in their minds.

But a two-way-branching story-line that does have options for being anti and pro in the course of the STORY, is a swell one, I think. You know, you start off as a renegade-chantry guy, but make decisions pro chantry and stuff.

Also, one must hold in mind the lore, so Kossith should probably stay anti-chantry. And why not a non-renegade exlusively human, if he/she has many different choices within that "story-line"?

Modifié par eroeru, 20 juin 2012 - 08:29 .

[Melca36]

Spicen wrote...

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Post the link.  I believe you, I am relieved, but it would help others to be relieved.

[Spicen]

http://www.eurogamer...-age-3-concepts

[Melca36]

Spicen wrote...

http://www.eurogamer...-age-3-concepts

Thanks

[eroeru]

Nono. What I meant is that you start off as either anti-chantry char, or pro-chantry. Then you have different choices within the two very different story-lines/frameworks.

This would allow for a Kossith in the "renegade" story, and for much replayability.

Also, in no way did I mean (paragon/)renegade in the meaning of mass effect. I hated that game.

Modifié par eroeru, 20 juin 2012 - 08:55 .

[TonberryFeye]

I want to play a Grey Warden again who has to deal with the Seekers - and by "deal with" I mean every possibile interpretation; the one you pick depends on how you want to play.

[berelinde]

Spicen wrote...

http://www.eurogamer...-age-3-concepts

Aha. That can mean that Cassandra is intended as a companion. No surprise there. I like her well enough, but I'm not necessarily a fan. A lot of people are. 

In general, I tend to be turned off by female NPCs unless they demonstrate that they are likable. When they are empowering and support a female PC the way Aveline and Isabela do, I like them. When they perpetuate sterotypes like Aerie, Jaheira, and Viconia, I don't like them at all. Maybe BioWare is learning. I find their more recent female characters more appealing than their older ones. Except for Dynaheir (although my perception is largely based off of the BG1 NPC  Project, which Domi wrote, not BioWare). Dynaheir ("For the right! And I always am!) totally rocks in my book.

Back to the point, it is unlikely that Cassandra will not be a companion. Signs and portents, don't you know.

[Truth]

Faerunner wrote...

As long as the Seeker can be of different races (elf, dwarf, kossith), then I'll be happy.

If we have to get saddled with another human protagonist again because of "story," I quit.

This or Dalish.

Modifié par Truth, 20 juin 2012 - 10:00 .

[eroeru]

Faerunner wrote...

eroeru wrote...

Nono. What I meant is that you start off as either anti-chantry char, or pro-chantry. Then you have different choices within the two very different story-lines/frameworks.

This would allow for a Kossith in the "renegade" story, and for much replayability.

Also, in no way did I mean (paragon/)renegade in the meaning of mass effect. I hated that game.

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand how one starts out as strickly pro-Chantry or anti-Chantry. Do you mean that one joins willingly while the other is dragged in against their will and later they can change their minds about the Chantry? Or...?

I'm still not sold on this bipartisan story idea. Truth be told, I don't understand it. When you mention it, I just think of DA2 where the character sided strongly with either mages or templars, with little room for neutrality or varrying degrees of loyalty to whatever side. (Well, as much as a passive character like Hawke would allow.) Having only two distinct stories doesn't sound very diverse in the replay department either. Much like DA2, you could play Mage Hawke to get Carver and Non-mage Hawke to get Bethany, and you could side with the mages or templars, but otherwise...? It might not be what you mean, but it's what it seems like to me.

War is often bipartisan.

Anyway, what I meant is a different approach to the blank slate character. He/she should be emotionally and motivationally blank-slate, but it's interesting to be given a story, or a different narrative.

When I talked "story" I didn't mean any motivationals nor character-definition. Just a parallel story-line/narrative (that makes for more specific role-playing options, e.g. a pro-chantry to-this-point-renegade, and a anti-chantry seeker (spy)).

edit: it's kinda like origins, only that it would shape the narrative farther, making the different narratives/origins more important and unique.

Modifié par eroeru, 20 juin 2012 - 10:09 .

[Arthur Cousland]

I wouldn't mind playing as a Seeker, but I don't want that to rule out playing as a mage. It's likely that the main protagonist will once again be human only in DA3, due to them being voiced, but it would blow to be also forced to be either a warrior or rogue. However, I don't see this happening: somehow either the main character won't be a Seeker, or they'll be allowed to be a mage Seeker.

[whykikyouwhy]

Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.

The quote in the article, and from the PAX panel, is this:

"So, suppose in your party you had a Grey Warden, let's say," said Laidlaw, with a pause and a smile, "and suppose you had a Seeker... You know... A Seeker..."

Nothing about that says that your PC would be a Seeker, but that maybe, just maybe, there would be a Seeker party member/companion.

Perhaps the player will have the opportunity to join the Seekers, or infiltrate their ranks somehow - perhaps that will be a direction/path that you could choose. But nothing as of yet indicates that the protagnist is going to be tied to that elusive order.

[Androme]

 They can make it work, as long as the Seeker we are playing isn't pre-defined to hate the Mages, but is rather trying to solve the conflict as a whole.

[wsandista]

No, I want the PC to be whatever I want them to be.

I probably won't be getting that in DA3.

[Arthur Cousland]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Spicen wrote...

In a recent interview Mr. Laid law has said that he kind of wants the protagonist to be a Seeker.
He said, " What we want is a seeker, you know a SEEKER." So, it kind of says that DA 3's hero might be a seeker.

The quote in the article, and from the PAX panel, is this:

"So, suppose in your party you had a Grey Warden, let's say," said Laidlaw, with a pause and a smile, "and suppose you had a Seeker... You know... A Seeker..."

Nothing about that says that your PC would be a Seeker, but that maybe, just maybe, there would be a Seeker party member/companion.

Perhaps the player will have the opportunity to join the Seekers, or infiltrate their ranks somehow - perhaps that will be a direction/path that you could choose. But nothing as of yet indicates that the protagnist is going to be tied to that elusive order.

Having a Seeker companion would make more sense, rather than the hero being one.  There are too many restrictions otherwise, and that would certainly rule out playing as a blood mage.

[eroeru]

^^ It wouldn't, if the "starting-point" would be as a seeker. You can be a "spy"-type character, for all we know.

[Sylvius the Mad]

First, the PC's personality needs to be under the player's control. They can't decide for us that we support the Chantry. That doesn't preclude us being a Seeker, but it would preclude us necessarily being a good Seeker.

Second, I like playing mages. I always play mages. My first run through every game is a mage. It will be interesting to see how they allow me to be a mage while also forcing me to be a Seeker.

[Uccio]

Ab.so.lu.te.ly NOT. I do not want to be forced to play a religious zealot in a game which is supposed to be a rpg.

^ same here, I allways play as a mage.

Modifié par Ukki, 20 juin 2012 - 06:48 .

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

No, I want Hawke back.

Before you say anything: I consider DAII to be setting up the character of Hawke. You get where he comes from, and have an influence in his development. DAII is an extended version of the Origin-part of DA:O. Now, I want to know where he goes next. They called him the most influencial character of Thedas: i want to see him make that come true.

[eroeru]

^^ Why?

If you want to play an almighty god over all the lore, you can always try the God of War franchise. Or numerous others...

[Samuel_Valkyrie]

eroeru wrote...

^^ Why?

If you want to play an almighty god over all the lore, you can always try the God of War franchise. Or numerous others...

You're talking to me?

If so: I'm not saying Hawke should be God of the Lore. Bioware said so. But I want to see Hawke's story continue. Personally, I liked him. (and I loved Paragon Hawke x Merrill, and I want to see more of that. )

[Xewaka]

I would like to play as Cassandra. Since they keep shoving the cinematic presentation, might as well go all the way.