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#26
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[quote]Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.
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[quote]Mahrac wrote...

Or you have a life outside the game and can't play a lot, or the store hates you, or your only computer broke so you can't play as much, or you have school, or you took a trip out of the country, or Origin is messing with you. And I'm sure there are other reasons that someone can't play enough to have a krogan.[/quote]

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Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.

Modifié par LoboFH, 20 juin 2012 - 06:21 .


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P51Mus7ang wrote...

I think it's going to be a blast!

It is true some new gamer's may not have everything, I have only been online since May and obtained all the characters available at the time within a very short time.


I have been playing since may as well, downloaded all of the DLC on the days they were released, and don't have any of them. 

This is a crap goal.  At least make it 3/4 players must be one of these races, or make the Krogan available to anyone who does not have one yet. 

Loyal players should not be struggling to unlock basic characters. 

I have participated in every challenge weekend.  It's crap that I can't succed in this one. 

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Tybalt2000 wrote...
 This squad goal is terrible.  If someone doesn't have one of these three races (I don't) they are going to be kicked the entire weekend.  This is actively discouraging people from playing the game if they haven't been lucky enough to unlock one of these characters. 


I can understand why you'd be frustrated, but I think you are making a bad assumption here. You only need to complete the squad goal once to complete the objective, which means anyone who does it once will not care what the rest of their squads look like. I don't think you will have that much trouble finding a game because people that play a lot will already have completed the goal by the time you log on to play.

Now if your main gripe was with not being able to get a commendation pack, then that might be valid...

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I think it's good. All I have to do is solo Bronze with a VSe.


I didn't think about that.  Great idea, will be lots of fun!

"I'm Alive!"

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People only have to do the squad goal once, though. I'm sure there will be games where people will just play normally.

Edit: ninja'd!

Modifié par Edalborez, 20 juin 2012 - 06:21 .


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So all the classes in squad need to be krogan, vorcha, or batarian? Or like with the last challenge, you just need at least one of them in team?

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LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.

Look at his manifest : he has unlocked many rares and many characters, he just wasn't lucky enough. Hell, his manifest is probably better than mine and I do have these species. All of them are rare cards, which you can get from SP or PSP (and barely Vet packs) ; what if he plays mostly Bronze ?
Stop making assumptions.

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LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


I have devoted some time, and have been playing since the first day.  However, I can't spend hours a day playing.  At best I get to play maybe an hour every other night.  I don't not mean choose to play, I mean get to play.  

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Mahrac wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.

Or you have a life outside the game and can't play a lot, or the store hates you, or your only computer broke so you can't play as much, or you have school, or you took a trip out of the country, or Origin is messing with you. And I'm sure there are other reasons that someone can't play enough to have a krogan.


Well, if that's the case, then I'm certain achieving the squad goal isn't something that's all that important to you anyway.

Seems to me that the weekend challenges are not geared to casual players.  There are plenty of folks who have had circumstances that cause them to miss the entire weekend challenge.  Is BioWare "holding the game hostage" for folks who can't devote time to play on weekends?

Honestly, there's a lot of bellyaching going on over this.

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People have been spoiled into thinking that everybody should be capable of completing the Squad Goal easily.  The last couple of challenges are likely responsible for this.

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Aureli wrote...

So all the classes in squad need to be krogan, vorcha, or batarian? Or like with the last challenge, you just need at least one of them in team?

Look at the official topic, 2nd post : "To be clear, the player group can only be comprised of krogans, vorcha
or batarians. If there are humans, geth or quarians in the group, it
will NOT count."

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

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You can still kill the baddies to help with the community goal.


How many times do you think I will get kicked because I don't have one of the required characters.

Well, considering you only have to get extracted once, and most will do that early, maybe once or twice on friday, but after that, probably never. 

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.


I play the game every chance I get.  I work two jobs and have a family.  I should not be punished because I do not have a plethora of free time to devote to grinding to get characters.  

Furthermore, the character unlock system is terrible.  I maxed the QI customization options weeks ago but still get cards for her.  


If you don't play that much, it won't be that bad to have one weekend off. Anyway, it's the squad goal, and you can do it on bronze. Most of the players will do it one time and will be done, since you just need to do it one time. It won't be that hard to find a lobby, and you wont be kicked all the time. If it was the allied goal, I would agree with you.

 Would be nice if they tought about guys like you, but it's a cool idea, the most creative squad goal we had into now, so it's far from terrible.

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

I have devoted some time, and have been playing since the first day.  However, I can't spend hours a day playing.  At best I get to play maybe an hour every other night.  I don't not mean choose to play, I mean get to play.  


Don't give yet in any case. Get some money these days, perhaps BioWare will make some "magic" in the store so people can get the missing races.

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If you are on Xbox, I will seriously help you farm Gold matches till you get one.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

People have been spoiled into thinking that everybody should be capable of completing the Squad Goal easily.  The last couple of challenges are likely responsible for this.


The challenge of the squad goal should be based on the challenge of game play, not on a players luck unlocking characters or weapons.  What if there was a squad goal of using only a specific type of gun? 

Look at my manifest. Look at how many promotional weapons I have unlocked.  I have participated in every challenge, and cannot particpate in this one. 

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

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Guess you got until this weekend to unlock one...


I have been playing whenever possible since the game's release and haven't, so I don't put much stock in my chances, and I will not be buying packs because BW is now litterlally holding the game hostage. 


Then it's your fault not Biowares. Not trying to be a doucher but looking at your manifest you barely have high level uncommons. Play Silver and buy some Specter/Premium Specter packs. You have literally all weekend to unlock one of these characters.

It's unfourtunate yes, but if you don't put in the effort for packs or buy any with MSP then it's tough luck.

Modifié par Define Clarity, 20 juin 2012 - 06:26 .


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Goldark77 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.

Or you have a life outside the game and can't play a lot, or the store hates you, or your only computer broke so you can't play as much, or you have school, or you took a trip out of the country, or Origin is messing with you. And I'm sure there are other reasons that someone can't play enough to have a krogan.


Well, if that's the case, then I'm certain achieving the squad goal isn't something that's all that important to you anyway.

Seems to me that the weekend challenges are not geared to casual players.  There are plenty of folks who have had circumstances that cause them to miss the entire weekend challenge.  Is BioWare "holding the game hostage" for folks who can't devote time to play on weekends?

Honestly, there's a lot of bellyaching going on over this.

On my part it's because last weekend was the first time I got a commendation pack, my laptop's screen cracked on (last) Monday, and I can't get the commendation this weekend either.

And does 'casual' mean 'not good enough for gold, struggles on silver, get RNG screwed by the store, has to go to work to get money, and has family commitments'?

Modifié par Mahrac, 20 juin 2012 - 06:28 .


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I must admit it's not great for you or for all those who haven't unlocked these characters. But they have to put variety in the operation. Maybe they will boost the drop rates of these cards until the end of the week. Take your chance!

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LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

Tybalt2000 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.


I play the game every chance I get.  I work two jobs and have a family.  I should not be punished because I do not have a plethora of free time to devote to grinding to get characters.  

Furthermore, the character unlock system is terrible.  I maxed the QI customization options weeks ago but still get cards for her.  


If you don't play that much, it won't be that bad to have one weekend off. Anyway, it's the squad goal, and you can do it on bronze. Most of the players will do it one time and will be done, since you just need to do it one time. It won't be that hard to find a lobby, and you wont be kicked all the time. If it was the allied goal, I would agree with you.

 Would be nice if they tought about guys like you, but it's a cool idea, the most creative squad goal we had into now, so it's far from terrible.


I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 

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I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 

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People who play on Bronze/Silver are mostly casual players.  They WONT kick you as ofter as you think.  I 'm willing to put money on that.  

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[quote]Frankie Muniz wrote...



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I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 

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People who play on Bronze/Silver are mostly casual players.  They WONT kick you as ofter as you think.  I 'm willing to put money on that.  

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Solo Bronze?

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[quote]Frankie Muniz wrote...



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I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 

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People who play on Bronze/Silver are mostly casual players.  They WONT kick you as ofter as you think.  I 'm willing to put money on that.  

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I understand, and you are probably right, but it is still extremely frustrating that this goal is turning what should be a cooperative community into a society of haves and have-nots. 

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[quote]BoomDynamite wrote...

[quote]Frankie Muniz wrote...



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I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 

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People who play on Bronze/Silver are mostly casual players.  They WONT kick you as ofter as you think.  I 'm willing to put money on that.  

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Solo Bronze?

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He doesn't have the characters, so that's not an option...