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Nightmare137 wrote...

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Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


This is exactly what is called for. 

Modifié par Tybalt2000, 20 juin 2012 - 06:33 .


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I have all three.

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


This is exactly what is called for. 

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

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Oh well...

Better luck next operation.

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Even if you can't get your squad goal, you can still participate for the community goal. Sure, it sucks that you'll only get your one victory pack, but it's better than nothing.

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jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'

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jpraelster93 wrote...

Tybalt2000 wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


This is exactly what is called for. 

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs


What is BS is not being able to play because we haven't gotten lucky with the random store. 

The Krogan was a day one character.  No one loses anything if they make it available so everyone can play in the event this weekend. 

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jpraelster93 wrote...

Tybalt2000 wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

Some people have lives outside of games and/or no luck with the store and should not be penalized for that.


Well, if live outside Mass Effect cooperative is so interesting I am sure you will not bother too much about this lost then.

A game has a progress and demands some commitment, if you are not willing to devote some effort to the game don't whine when you have not access to all the goodies.


This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


This is exactly what is called for. 

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs


Why is it BS? because you dont get much benefit from it? Pretty selfish over a game if you ask me.

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Nightmare137 wrote...

This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


Agree about the last idea but you miss the point totally with your first paragraph.

In every online game with unlockables, progression and ranks some commitment is mandatory. If we join any online mainstream game now (Halo, CoD, BF3, whatever) with our bare, nude level one characters everybody will steamroll us with their shinny toys, perks and stuff.

They are not requesting something insane: "everybody must wield a Black Widow X or get the hell out of here, rookies!", we need just one damn krogan, a day one race. I sympathize with the OP struggle but he has terrible luck or he doesn't buy enough spectre packs if three months later he still didn't get a krogan.

Modifié par LoboFH, 20 juin 2012 - 06:41 .


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Tybalt2000 wrote...



 This squad goal is terrible.  If someone doesn't have one of these three races (I don't) they are going to be kicked the entire weekend.  This is actively discouraging people from playing the game if they haven't been lucky enough to unlock one of these characters. 

The Krogans, which are orriginal characters, should automatically unlock for anyone who was not gotten them yet.  Did BioWare not realize that not everyone has one of these characters? 


Only one thing to do then....sell your copy of ME3 as fast as you can and never return to this forum. It's the only way to show how upset you are :devil:

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The squad goal is indicative of what happens when some people complain too much - obviously all this OP talk and complains about people playing certain races/characters more has led to... Operation Savage! Where BW is trying to encourage more people to try out playing certain races/characters, but the poor folks who haven't unlocked any of these are just plain SOL.

That they allow for this on all difficulty levels including Bronze indicates no malicious intent to leave anyone out, but in the grand scheme of unintended consequences, some people really need to luck out in the store really soon or miss out.

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I don't think there will be as much kicking as you think. Once I get a few extractions I won't care what people play. I doubt I'm the only one who feels his way.

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You can do the other goal by playing solo.

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LoboFH wrote...

Nightmare137 wrote...

This is a game meant for everyone to have fun with and not just some who commit more then others. As I stated before I already have all the races listed but I can sympothize with those that do not.

In addition Im plenty sure there are people out there that have played just as much if not more then even you or me that dont have these characters because of the poor luck of the store system; should they be penalized because they werent lucky enough?

As I stated before I just think bioware should make & release a pack that will randomly award 1 of the races to everyone before the event starts. This would solve all the problems and allow everyone a fair chance.


Agree about the last idea but you miss the point totally with your first paragraph.

In every online game with unlockables, progression and ranks some commitment is mandatory. If we join any online mainstream game now (Halo, CoD, BF3, whatever) with our bare, nude level one characters everybody will steamroll us with their shinny toys, powers and stuff.

They are not requesting something insane: "everybody must wield a Black Widow X or get the hell out of here, rookies!", we need just one damn krogan, a day one race. I sympathize with the OP struggle but he has terrible luck or he doesn't buy enough spectre packs if three months later he still didn't get a krogan.


I would say I have terrible luck.  By no means do I have all of the characters but those three, I am still missing a lot, but I play when I can and am dedicated.  I have 7 or so levels in N7 weapons because I have actively particpated in all of the challenges so far.  I would say that shows a fair level of dedication. As much as someone with limited time can, I would say. 

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

Tybalt2000 wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

I am sorry if this is going to sound harsh but if you don't have a krogan by now it only means that you don't play the game enough, your right to complain about this issue is slim.


I play the game every chance I get.  I work two jobs and have a family.  I should not be punished because I do not have a plethora of free time to devote to grinding to get characters.  

Furthermore, the character unlock system is terrible.  I maxed the QI customization options weeks ago but still get cards for her.  


If you don't play that much, it won't be that bad to have one weekend off. Anyway, it's the squad goal, and you can do it on bronze. Most of the players will do it one time and will be done, since you just need to do it one time. It won't be that hard to find a lobby, and you wont be kicked all the time. If it was the allied goal, I would agree with you.

 Would be nice if they tought about guys like you, but it's a cool idea, the most creative squad goal we had into now, so it's far from terrible.


I don't want a weekend off.  Playing this is how I relax.  I greatly enjoy it. 

I can't do it on Bronze.  The ENTIRE TEAM needs to be one of these three races.  I can't do it even once, and any team trying to do it will kick me immediately. 


I'm not saying for you to do it on bronze, I'm saying it will be easy, so people will deal with it fast and go back to normal game, with any race. You will be able to play, this won't be a problem. You just won't win the pack, but we can't ignore a fact, if you can't play too much, don't matter for what reason, you won't have everything, you won't participate in everything, Bioware can't guarantee that. Someone that play more will have more, and will do more, it's a unfair fact, but a fact.

 I think they was nice enough to let us do it on bronze. Again, would be a good idea to give one pack with this chars, so who don't have it can participate, but the absense of it don't make the goal terrible..

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Mahrac wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'


same for people not being able to participate who just couldnt play gold some people dont get to do all the events because of skill or items there shouldnt be a free pass for people 

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Wish I had some Vorcha to use.... Got Batas and Krogan but I wish I had some Vorcha

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I'd be screwed if Drell was the required race, since I STILL don't have one even though I have many rare characters and every other uncommon.

It shouldn't be that big of a deal though. You only have to do it once to get the reward. Get it under your belt and don't worry about what class other people are playing. That being said, it would have been a better idea to limit it to say, Silver, so people still have places to go without having to worry about jerk players going on kickfests.

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jpraelster93 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'


same for people not being able to participate who just couldnt play gold some people dont get to do all the events because of skill or items there shouldnt be a free pass for people 


Making the challenge a Gold challenge is one thing.  Then the challenge is based on skill.  This is a challenge based on possessions.  It's like school kids ostracizing another kid because he has the wrong brand of action figure. 

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I have all the races and I still think it's crap. BW should at least make one unlockable for those who don't have it, even if only temporary. Why in the world would they literally prevent some users from being able to achieve the goal?

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Tybalt2000 wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'


same for people not being able to participate who just couldnt play gold some people dont get to do all the events because of skill or items there shouldnt be a free pass for people 


Making the challenge a Gold challenge is one thing.  Then the challenge is based on skill.  This is a challenge based on possessions.  It's like school kids ostracizing another kid because he has the wrong brand of action figure. 


You dont think kids do that lol

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jpraelster93 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'


same for people not being able to participate who just couldnt play gold some people dont get to do all the events because of skill or items there shouldnt be a free pass for people 

There's a difference between being rewarded for skill and luck. With gold extractions it was 'you are good enough, so you get an extra reward' with character cards it's 'we think that you need to be punished for not getting a certain card'

or: when it was gold, everyone could still try for the commendation. now it's arbitraryily decided who's eligable

Modifié par Mahrac, 20 juin 2012 - 06:47 .


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OP, I checked your manifest. Your luck is very strange... you got 5 Rebellion character cards, and none of them are Vorcha; and you got 5 Resurgence cards, and none of them are Batarians   :blink:

Modifié par Variasaber, 20 juin 2012 - 06:47 .


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Tybalt2000 wrote...

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You can still kill the baddies to help with the community goal.


How many times do you think I will get kicked because I don't have one of the required characters.



Fewer than you think.  People only need to do the run once for the squad goal.  I won't kick you.

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jpraelster93 wrote...

Tybalt2000 wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

No people shouldnt get a free character just because thats bs

People also shouldn't be told 'you can't participate because you got RNG screwed'


same for people not being able to participate who just couldnt play gold some people dont get to do all the events because of skill or items there shouldnt be a free pass for people 


Making the challenge a Gold challenge is one thing.  Then the challenge is based on skill.  This is a challenge based on possessions.  It's like school kids ostracizing another kid because he has the wrong brand of action figure. 


You dont think kids do that lol


Yes.  Of course kids do that.  Adults and what is supposed to be a cooperative gaming community should not.  That is my point.