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So they finally found flashback images of all six other LIs in the game files? What does Miranda's look like?


I have no idea. At all. My knowledge ends at "it's a bug".

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Everyone hates Liara except people who like her.



There's another baseless assumption.....my friend has never even Romanced her....he always goes with ME1: Ash, ME2: Miranda, ME3: Ash...


Yet he brings Liara on almost half the missions he goes on in ME1 and ME3......why? Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series

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Mcfly616 wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Everyone hates Liara except people who like her.



There's another baseless assumption.....my friend has never even Romanced her....he always goes with ME1: Ash, ME2: Miranda, ME3: Ash...


Yet he brings Liara on almost half the missions he goes on in ME1 and ME3......why? Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series

I was kidding, you know that right...guess not

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

So they finally found flashback images of all six other LIs in the game files? What does Miranda's look like?


I have no idea. At all. My knowledge ends at "it's a bug".

Well then where did you hear that? Did they tweet it or something?

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I think it was Weekes.

On Twitter.

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errr... you guys tell that liara need a more screen time than other because she's not squad in ME2?

how about VS? they make appearance one time and player never saw them again. thus, they didn't
even had a special DLC or their comic series.

then in ME3, they just taken away from player after the first mission  to make players can kill them
in citadel mission. yeah, great.

Modifié par d-boy15, 21 juin 2012 - 05:33 .


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You know what's amusing, those Liara fan's that defend her by hating on Tali and thinking that the Talibase is solely to blame, you're making it sound like Liara/Talimancers are the only fanbases here. Mirmaners, Thanemancers, Kellymancers etc, they all got shunned in ME3, don't shun them from the community too :(

So black and white o__o

or...

Purple and blue.

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Nightwriter wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Appears in your flashback even if you didn't romance her


Bad bug, yeah. I’ve been meaning to test the hush-hush that you can get it to work right with the appropriate vid files in appropriate locations (that is, not overriding Liara)… this’ll fortunately be fixed in the EC so that this ‘argument’ can be retired.

They confirmed it was a bug?

They confirmed it will be fixed in the EC?


If it was a bug, there should exist video filesfor every LI. Those videos don't exist. I mean how hard is to create a code that verifies a flag and plays the correct video?

They just didn't think people romance any character that didn't appearin ME1. We'll always see walters waifu as shepard last thought.

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ENorman94 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Everyone hates Liara except people who like her.



There's another baseless assumption.....my friend has never even Romanced her....he always goes with ME1: Ash, ME2: Miranda, ME3: Ash...


Yet he brings Liara on almost half the missions he goes on in ME1 and ME3......why? Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series

I was kidding, you know that right...guess not



Sorry...hard to tell on the internet

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it's not a bug...

they claim that they can make other romance appear in that scene (some coding problem)
so, they put liara instead...

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Mcfly616 wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Everyone hates Liara except people who like her.



There's another baseless assumption.....my friend has never even Romanced her....he always goes with ME1: Ash, ME2: Miranda, ME3: Ash...


Yet he brings Liara on almost half the missions he goes on in ME1 and ME3......why? Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series

My male Shepard was a vanguard and femshep was an adept, so I never had need of her.  Ever.  So her blue ass stayed on the Normandy for pretty much the entire series.  ;)  (Except of course when I forced to bring her along in ME3).

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 21 juin 2012 - 05:41 .


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d-boy15 wrote...

errr... you guys tell that liara need a more screen time than other because she's not squad in ME2?

how about VS? they make appearance one time and player never saw them again. thus, they didn't
even had a special DLC or their comic series.

then in ME3, they just taken away from player after the first mission  to make players can kill them
in citadel mission. yeah, great.



Probably because the VS is such a nag? Lol who knows....

Honestly, a lot of things were lacking....A LOT.....I just find it funny that people blame all of it on Liara...only because she was one of the few things about the game that turned out well.....its quite pathetic...

As I said, I like every character....hell, there's moments in ME3 that hit me much harder than moments with Liara.....Tali's rock.....shooting bottles with Garrus.....talking to Ashley like she's a child because she's spinning drunk on the floor.....

It's pretty naive and juvenile to blame a well written character for the rest of the games shortcomings

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4stringwizard wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Everyone hates Liara except people who like her.



There's another baseless assumption.....my friend has never even Romanced her....he always goes with ME1: Ash, ME2: Miranda, ME3: Ash...


Yet he brings Liara on almost half the missions he goes on in ME1 and ME3......why? Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series

My male Shepard was a vanguard and femshep was an adept, so I never had need of her.  Ever.  So her blue ass stayed on the Normandy for pretty much the entire series.  ;)  (Except of course when I forced to bring her along in ME3).


And that was your choice......nothing wrong with having options....that's what I always say.....atleast, until my girlfriend slaps me....

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Now, if I were able to get shot of her in some way with the EC. I'd be happy.

Why on earth I had to have her on all those missions I don't know.

Thessia is burning! ...Pfft who cares...
Liara is crying! ....RAAAGEEE EVERYONE DO SOMETHING RAWWWRRR!

Pity we couldn't leave her on Virmire.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

errr... you guys tell that liara need a more screen time than other because she's not squad in ME2?

how about VS? they make appearance one time and player never saw them again. thus, they didn't
even had a special DLC or their comic series.

then in ME3, they just taken away from player after the first mission  to make players can kill them
in citadel mission. yeah, great.



Probably because the VS is such a nag? Lol who knows....

Honestly, a lot of things were lacking....A LOT.....I just find it funny that people blame all of it on Liara...only because she was one of the few things about the game that turned out well.....its quite pathetic...

As I said, I like every character....hell, there's moments in ME3 that hit me much harder than moments with Liara.....Tali's rock.....shooting bottles with Garrus.....talking to Ashley like she's a child because she's spinning drunk on the floor.....

It's pretty naive and juvenile to blame a well written character for the rest of the games shortcomings

People ARE blaming the writers for the excessive screen time.  But also, some people such as myself just genuinely don't like her character.  And it's a shame because I didn't actually dislike her until ME3.  I liked her in ME1 and was merely lukewarm to her in ME2/LotSB.

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.  I think Wrex, Mordin, Tali, Garrus, and Thane were all much better-written characters than Liara.  I've said it multiple times that Liara wouldn't be half as popular as she is if she weren't a perfect sex fantasy for male gamers. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 21 juin 2012 - 05:51 .


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Mcfly616 wrote...

Because she's one of best squadmates to take into battle....in the ENTIRE series


Miranda is far better as squadmate.

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4stringwizard wrote...

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.


That's because... it's true.

Bah, we must unite against Allers.

Modifié par mauro2222, 21 juin 2012 - 05:54 .


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mauro2222 wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.


That's because... it's true.

Bah, we must unite against Allers.


And many people think she is one of the best written characters.


To the people who think she is Bioware's (or Mac Walters) pet...

Q: Do you, as a writer or a player, feel close to any of the characters?
Mac Walters: Having written Garrus in the first game, that’s a character I’ve always followed. I wrote him as well in the second game, but then handed him off in Mass Effect 3. It’s been fun to play through it as not the writer, and see where Garrus’ story went. Sometimes I have to pull the lead writer role and say, “That would never happen.”

Q.It’s good to be the king.
Mac Walters: Aria and the Illusive Man are two of my other favorite characters. I love them because of their moral ambiguity. Both of them have very clear goals, but you never know quite how to take them. They’re not obviously good or obviously bad.

http://popwatch.ew.c...-3-mac-walters/

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lets not get over our heads with mass effect 3 and not just hate everything.
Liara is great. Either as a friend or as a love interest

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LOL

Aria had a little cameo in ME3, TIM turn out to be another stupid villian.

and if I remmeber right walter tell rachni had an important roles even at the end, very true...

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mauro2222 wrote...


Miranda is far better as squadmate.


Not in Mass Effect 3,where "protections",thanks good,didnt played a role anymore...
Kaidan didnt impressed me.(and is essentialy the same)

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Barquiel wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.


That's because... it's true.

Bah, we must unite against Allers.


And many people think she is one of the best written characters.


To the people who think she is Bioware's (or Mac Walters) pet...

Q: Do you, as a writer or a player, feel close to any of the characters?
Mac Walters: Having written Garrus in the first game, that’s a character I’ve always followed. I wrote him as well in the second game, but then handed him off in Mass Effect 3. It’s been fun to play through it as not the writer, and see where Garrus’ story went. Sometimes I have to pull the lead writer role and say, “That would never happen.”

Q.It’s good to be the king.
Mac Walters: Aria and the Illusive Man are two of my other favorite characters. I love them because of their moral ambiguity. Both of them have very clear goals, but you never know quite how to take them. They’re not obviously good or obviously bad.

http://popwatch.ew.c...-3-mac-walters/

Deflected the issue onto Garrus, cause he know's everyone loves Garrus <3 (so true)

Apart from MaleShep

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Garrus: "Are you ready to be a women?"
MaleShep: "NO!"

*Technical difficulties*

Modifié par Terrorize69, 21 juin 2012 - 06:07 .


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tonnactus wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...


Miranda is far better as squadmate.


Not in Mass Effect 3,where "protections",thanks good,didnt played a role anymore...
Kaidan didnt impressed me.(and is essentialy the same)


...she wans't a squadmate in ME3... and Kaidan is not the same, by far.

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Barquiel wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.


That's because... it's true.

Bah, we must unite against Allers.


And many people think she is one of the best written characters.

*snip*

Many people....outside of Liara fanboys, you mean?

Because going from meek nerd in ME1 to sociopathic information broker in ME2 was so believable.  Because it's so believable that she's always Shepard's BFF no matter the fan choices.  Because it's so believable that she's a great Shadow Broker yet every major character knows who she is (and she never actually does anything useful past the Mars mission).  And I almost forgot her multiple personalities in ME3.  I loved begining scene on Mars she mercilessly kills two downed Cerberus soldiers while grinning, then proceeds to get gushy with Shepard.  

Yes, that's great writing. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 21 juin 2012 - 06:08 .


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4stringwizard wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

errr... you guys tell that liara need a more screen time than other because she's not squad in ME2?

how about VS? they make appearance one time and player never saw them again. thus, they didn't
even had a special DLC or their comic series.

then in ME3, they just taken away from player after the first mission  to make players can kill them
in citadel mission. yeah, great.



Probably because the VS is such a nag? Lol who knows....

Honestly, a lot of things were lacking....A LOT.....I just find it funny that people blame all of it on Liara...only because she was one of the few things about the game that turned out well.....its quite pathetic...

As I said, I like every character....hell, there's moments in ME3 that hit me much harder than moments with Liara.....Tali's rock.....shooting bottles with Garrus.....talking to Ashley like she's a child because she's spinning drunk on the floor.....

It's pretty naive and juvenile to blame a well written character for the rest of the games shortcomings

People ARE blaming the writers for the excessive screen time.  But also, some people such as myself just genuinely don't like her character.  And it's a shame because I didn't actually dislike her until ME3.  I liked her in ME1 and was merely lukewarm to her in ME2/LotSB.

And honestly, I don't think she's that well written at all.  I think Wrex, Mordin, Tali, Garrus, and Thane were all much better-written characters than Liara.  I've said it multiple times that Liara wouldn't be half as popular as she is if she weren't a perfect sex fantasy for male gamers. 


I admit....I loved Liara in ME1....its the main reason she's one of my favorite characters....the fact that she was so naive and innocent is what had me drawn to her....I didn't like the direction her character went in ME2, it was too much of a departure from who she was in the first game....however, I think they struck a good balance between the two in ME3