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[teh DRUMPf!!]

Barquiel wrote...

That's complete nonsense.

BW admitted that Lair of the Shadow Broker was in response to fans being disappointed in Liara’s too-tiny role in ME2. Just compare their original plans for the SB arc (the files are on the ME2 discs) and the DLC.

And so what did they do for Kaidan/Ashley's even smaller role? There was only a 500-page thread in the old ME2 forums asking for a DLC mission with the VS.

Not fooling me, BW.

Walters had stated in multiple interviews that his favorite characters are Garrus, TIM and Aria.

Things change. I'm sure he likes TIM but his poor handling of his character shows he's clearly moved on to other interests.

As for Aria, if you buy that (which I do, in fact) then it's pretty clear who's doing the writing when Liara channels the "badass blue babe" tendencies.

Jack is Casey Hudson's favorite characters as revealed in the CE Strat guide along with several other interviews.

Too bad Casey doesn't write. For a ME2 squadmate though, I would say Jack got pretty good treatment.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Walters had stated in multiple interviews that his favorite characters are Garrus, TIM and Aria.

Things change. I'm sure he likes TIM but his poor handling of his character shows he's clearly moved on to other interests.

This makes the incorrect assumption that liking a character means being able to write them well. Walters is probably under the impression that he did TIM perfect justice.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

This makes the incorrect assumption that liking a character means being able to write them well. Walters is probably under the impression that he did TIM perfect justice.

I can see that. I was actually going to put TIM @ 6 but wasn't sure if his role in ME3 was lost interest or bad writing.

[Olueq]

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

I did actually say that some aspects of her character got better treatment than other characters. I highlighted it for your convenience.

BTW nice debating skills. Good to see everyone can make a valid argument without resorting to ad hominem.

Lol then what the hell are you arguing about? If you admit bioware fovors her over all the characters than what are you even debating. Im so confused.

'Some aspects' =/= favours over all other characters.

And if you read what I posted you would notice it was designed to counter-act some of the main arguments against her. I also pointed out that Garrus got a hell of a lot of treatment too but apparently isn't a 'writer's pet'.

And I said theres more than just SOME aspects. They add up. Please comprehend what I say next time. Liara is clearly favored. But since ur liaramancer I dont expect you to see that. From my percpective its like talking to a wall.

I read what you said - it wasn't backed up by any argumentation or evidence at all. In fact, all you did was state it. That doesn't support your claim at all.

And really? Nobody can change their opinion? Well that's funny... I think I just changed mine, of you.

Lmao, I stated some things that Liara has, that no other squadmate has. How is that NOT evidence? My god, I AM talking to a wall. All Liaramancers cant be like this, can they?

Ok so things that Garrus has but Liara doesn't...

90% of ME2 including two missions specifically for him, lines and cut scenes in most other missions, many scenes on the Normandy and the Citadel. In fact he has more of these scenes than Liara. He has several other missions which are heavily related to him also (only 1/2 less than Liara overall).

How about Tali? She has the whole Rannoch arc to herself.

Stating events or scenes that are character specific as evidence of being a favourite isn't substantial evidence. All of the characters have these scenes and Garrus/Liara (+Tali perhaps) both have these in roughly equal quantities. Reasons why liara may have more content in ME3 overall I have outlined before.

Gosh, it's like these hater's cannot be rational and can't remember the whole of ME2... /sarcasm off

1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Modifié par Olueq, 21 juin 2012 - 10:45 .

[PrimeOfValor]

DRTJR wrote...

Let's count off...

In ME1 she is...
An achelologist,
Is the only person who gets an entire mission devoted to recruiting her
Gets her own room
And was neither well connected nor influential

In ME2
Gets an entire DLC for her.
Is an Influencal information broker, and is well conected,

In ME3
She is on mars as an arcelogist and a Information Broker
Can only be kill via Exiding low EMS
has the most lines of any squadmate

I romanced Liara loyally (also in 1 and 2) in ME3 and still would , but that kind of explains why she has the best romance scene out of all other characters in the game or at least  the romance option for both male and female shepard (in my opinion).

Modifié par bigmass41, 21 juin 2012 - 10:41 .

[warlock22]

Dendio1 wrote...



Down with the Liara haters!

I second that. I love Liara, and she did get the most attention in ME3 for a LI. And yes thats not fair all of the squadmates from ME 1 and 2 should have gotten the same love put into them. But I am tired of people saying she a pet, child or whatever. These people are just hating just to hate, from what ive seen in my life people usually come down to either the stupid or envious. So if you dont like that Liara got this much attention fine (like I said all the LI should have gotten the same love and care put into them), but to not like her character for that is just stupid.

[ichi9181]

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

I did actually say that some aspects of her character got better treatment than other characters. I highlighted it for your convenience.

BTW nice debating skills. Good to see everyone can make a valid argument without resorting to ad hominem.

Lol then what the hell are you arguing about? If you admit bioware fovors her over all the characters than what are you even debating. Im so confused.

'Some aspects' =/= favours over all other characters.

And if you read what I posted you would notice it was designed to counter-act some of the main arguments against her. I also pointed out that Garrus got a hell of a lot of treatment too but apparently isn't a 'writer's pet'.

And I said theres more than just SOME aspects. They add up. Please comprehend what I say next time. Liara is clearly favored. But since ur liaramancer I dont expect you to see that. From my percpective its like talking to a wall.

I read what you said - it wasn't backed up by any argumentation or evidence at all. In fact, all you did was state it. That doesn't support your claim at all.

And really? Nobody can change their opinion? Well that's funny... I think I just changed mine, of you.

Lmao, I stated some things that Liara has, that no other squadmate has. How is that NOT evidence? My god, I AM talking to a wall. All Liaramancers cant be like this, can they?

Ok so things that Garrus has but Liara doesn't...

90% of ME2 including two missions specifically for him, lines and cut scenes in most other missions, many scenes on the Normandy and the Citadel. In fact he has more of these scenes than Liara. He has several other missions which are heavily related to him also (only 1/2 less than Liara overall).

How about Tali? She has the whole Rannoch arc to herself.

Stating events or scenes that are character specific as evidence of being a favourite isn't substantial evidence. All of the characters have these scenes and Garrus/Liara (+Tali perhaps) both have these in roughly equal quantities. Reasons why liara may have more content in ME3 overall I have outlined before.

Gosh, it's like these hater's cannot be rational and can't remember the whole of ME2... /sarcasm off

1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

this is true and like me2 you get tali half way through the game i mean liara has an entire dlc

[Ponei]

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

I did actually say that some aspects of her character got better treatment than other characters. I highlighted it for your convenience.

BTW nice debating skills. Good to see everyone can make a valid argument without resorting to ad hominem.

Lol then what the hell are you arguing about? If you admit bioware fovors her over all the characters than what are you even debating. Im so confused.

'Some aspects' =/= favours over all other characters.

And if you read what I posted you would notice it was designed to counter-act some of the main arguments against her. I also pointed out that Garrus got a hell of a lot of treatment too but apparently isn't a 'writer's pet'.

And I said theres more than just SOME aspects. They add up. Please comprehend what I say next time. Liara is clearly favored. But since ur liaramancer I dont expect you to see that. From my percpective its like talking to a wall.

I read what you said - it wasn't backed up by any argumentation or evidence at all. In fact, all you did was state it. That doesn't support your claim at all.

And really? Nobody can change their opinion? Well that's funny... I think I just changed mine, of you.

Lmao, I stated some things that Liara has, that no other squadmate has. How is that NOT evidence? My god, I AM talking to a wall. All Liaramancers cant be like this, can they?

Ok so things that Garrus has but Liara doesn't...

90% of ME2 including two missions specifically for him, lines and cut scenes in most other missions, many scenes on the Normandy and the Citadel. In fact he has more of these scenes than Liara. He has several other missions which are heavily related to him also (only 1/2 less than Liara overall).

How about Tali? She has the whole Rannoch arc to herself.

Stating events or scenes that are character specific as evidence of being a favourite isn't substantial evidence. All of the characters have these scenes and Garrus/Liara (+Tali perhaps) both have these in roughly equal quantities. Reasons why liara may have more content in ME3 overall I have outlined before.

Gosh, it's like these hater's cannot be rational and can't remember the whole of ME2... /sarcasm off

1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Olueq is right 

Here, have some love

[Apocsapel91]

I believe she is a writer's pet, but hell, I'm not complaining.

[warlock22]

Barquiel wrote...

That's complete nonsense.

BW admitted that Lair of the Shadow Broker was in response to fans being disappointed in Liara’s too-tiny role in ME2. Just compare their original plans for the SB arc (the files are on the ME2 discs) and the DLC.

Could you show me were it says that LOTSB was made becasue of fans. Because LOTSB was put out way after the game and it has the voice recordings of the other squadmates when you see the building blow up. For exp Samara says "By the Goddess", no I'm pretty sure Overlord came out before LOTSB and no one on your team had any dialogue on that mission. I pretty sure LOTSB was planned from the get go, it makes the most sence. Other wise why would LOTSB have dialogue for all the squadmates at that scene and Overlord has none.

And Liara is the one who saved you from the SB ant the Collectors. So it fitting that you help her take the SB out.

Modifié par warlock22, 21 juin 2012 - 11:01 .

[incinerator950]

warlock22 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

That's complete nonsense.

BW admitted that Lair of the Shadow Broker was in response to fans being disappointed in Liara’s too-tiny role in ME2. Just compare their original plans for the SB arc (the files are on the ME2 discs) and the DLC.

Could you show me were it says that LOTSB was made becasue of fans. Because LOTSB was put out way after the game and it has the voice recordings of the other squadmates when you see the building blow up. For exp Samara says "By the Goddess", no I'm pretty sure Overlord came out before LOTSB and no one on your team had any dialogue on that mission. I pretty sure LOTSB was planned from the get go, it makes the most sence. Other wise why would LOTSB have dialogue for all the squadmates at that scene and Overlord has none.

And Liara is the one who saved you from the SB ant the Collectors. So it fitting that you help her take the SB out.

You do realize that LotSB dialogue from your squadmates are reused sound files? 

[AsheraII]

Liara was supposed to die in ME3, but someone leaked the script and Bioware decided to re-do it to reduce the spoiler effect. One of the changes was that the scene where Liara had a fairly high chance of dying was completely overhauled.

[Tealjaker94]

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

[Olueq]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

Did i say I got screwed (even though I kind of did)? And I have EVERY right to complain when I see a flashback of liara at the end of the game.. Or how Liara has an actual romance scene, when Talis is glitched. And stereotyping is something everyone here does. You think I dont know that? Im a Talimancer, Im already hated just because of that. Maybe insulting ALL Liaramancers i too far, I agree, but I didnt do that. I said : ``You Liaramancers`` refering to the ones I was talking to.

Modifié par Olueq, 21 juin 2012 - 11:26 .

[Tealjaker94]

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

Did i say I got screwed? And I have EVERY right to complain when I see a flashback of liara at the end of the game.. Or how Liara has an actual romance scene, when Talis is glitched. And stereotyping is something everyone here does. You think I dont know that? Im a Talimancer, Im already hated just because of that.

Complain if you want but attacking other fans is hardly the right way. I agree that you seeing Liara at the end is bull****. When I first saw that scene I just assumed it would show other LIs, I've heard that it's yet another glitch. But Bioware and Walters are the badguys here not Liara fans.

[Olueq]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

Did i say I got screwed? And I have EVERY right to complain when I see a flashback of liara at the end of the game.. Or how Liara has an actual romance scene, when Talis is glitched. And stereotyping is something everyone here does. You think I dont know that? Im a Talimancer, Im already hated just because of that.

Complain if you want but attacking other fans is hardly the right way. I agree that you seeing Liara at the end is bull****. When I first saw that scene I just assumed it would show other LIs, I've heard that it's yet another glitch. But Bioware and Walters are the badguys here not Liara fans.

read my edit, it seems you misinterpreted my comment.

[gearseffect]

warlock22 wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...



Down with the Liara haters!

I second that. I love Liara, and she did get the most attention in ME3 for a LI. And yes thats not fair all of the squadmates from ME 1 and 2 should have gotten the same love put into them. But I am tired of people saying she a pet, child or whatever. These people are just hating just to hate, from what ive seen in my life people usually come down to either the stupid or envious. So if you dont like that Liara got this much attention fine (like I said all the LI should have gotten the same love and care put into them), but to not like her character for that is just stupid.

I'm gonna have to dissagree with you on that Warlock, because it's called over exposure and something being pushed to hard at people. It tends to turn them off and not like that thing at all. Trust me before ME3 I was still defending Liara, and all. Now nothing, I'd be lying if I said she don't revolt me, she don't upset me.

How would people feel if you were forced to eat Squash all the time and only squash? You'd grow to hate squash right? Well then that's how peopl end up hating Liara, it's not stupid, it's how people are wired. You cram something down my thoat and push stuff off on me, and do it too hard I'm gonna not like it, I'm gonna grow to despise it. So I disagree with you here.

It's not stupid it's normal for some people to not like things because they are being forced on them, religion, the way to dress, some people don't have a problem some people do, and some people are going to not like something being pushed their way.
I could give an indeepth long @ssed summery of these sorts of behavoirs and all, but that takes time and I've not got too much time

[Tealjaker94]

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

Did i say I got screwed? And I have EVERY right to complain when I see a flashback of liara at the end of the game.. Or how Liara has an actual romance scene, when Talis is glitched. And stereotyping is something everyone here does. You think I dont know that? Im a Talimancer, Im already hated just because of that.

Complain if you want but attacking other fans is hardly the right way. I agree that you seeing Liara at the end is bull****. When I first saw that scene I just assumed it would show other LIs, I've heard that it's yet another glitch. But Bioware and Walters are the badguys here not Liara fans.

read my edit, it seems you misinterpreted my comment.

I see, but you understand how I might misinterpret  "you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you?" If I'm in restaurant and I say to two Americans "You Americans really are stupid" I'm pretty sure other Americans will think I'm talking about them.

[Stalker]

Olueq wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

To people that say Liara is Bioware's Pet...



Seriously.

See what I mean? Its only Liara fans that think otherwise.

That basically sums up this thread.

Neutral people (not haters!) stating why Liara is a writer-pet and got too much attention. 
vs.
The fans of said character, obviously never argumenting against time with their favorite.

Both reasonable standpoints... fact however is, that she got attention where others were cut off.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 21 juin 2012 - 11:35 .

[Olueq]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

Olueq wrote...
1. I said Garrus is probably the most favored so half ur arguement is alreadu null. And Tali is recruit in the second half of the game. Liara still has much more time and dialogue devotred to her. Again, you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you? And you are still forgetting the comics, the plot relevance, plot armor, thefact that shes more useful than every other squadmate in gameplay, the focus of effort in her romance compared to everyone elses. ...

And what do you mean, the rannoch campaign is devoted to tali? You dont even have to take her on half the missions. What about Mars? Or Palavens moon? Or Thessia? Or hell, any mission that came before rannoch, by your logic they are all devoted to liara. And did you forget Liara cant die until theres no more possible content for her, and even that is highly unlikely. Face it Liaramancer, Bioware favors her. The fact that you try and deny it is embarassing.

Am I saying I dont like Liara? Am I saying shes a bad character? I think you are making assumptions here. However, you are only embarassing yourself if you dont think shes atleast the second most favored character in the series.

Thanks for insulting the intelligence of all Liara fans based on your argument with one person. Does Bioware favor Liara? Probably. When you have around 20 characters vying for content, of course not everyone is going to be front and center. Someone had to get the content and Liara's guaranteed to be alive, so it goes to her. Not sure a Tali fan should really be complaining though. Tali is a squad member in all 3 games. It's not like you got completely screwed over like Jacob's fans.

Did i say I got screwed? And I have EVERY right to complain when I see a flashback of liara at the end of the game.. Or how Liara has an actual romance scene, when Talis is glitched. And stereotyping is something everyone here does. You think I dont know that? Im a Talimancer, Im already hated just because of that.

Complain if you want but attacking other fans is hardly the right way. I agree that you seeing Liara at the end is bull****. When I first saw that scene I just assumed it would show other LIs, I've heard that it's yet another glitch. But Bioware and Walters are the badguys here not Liara fans.

read my edit, it seems you misinterpreted my comment.

I see, but you understand how I might misinterpret  "you liaramancers are truly thick, arent you?" If I'm in restaurant and I say to two Americans "You Americans really are stupid" I'm pretty sure other Americans will think I'm talking about them.

Oh I see that, and Im aware of that. Thats partially why I said it at the time. I dont mean all Liaramancers but I was starting to get impatient at the time dealing with one so I didnt care then.

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Whatever this thread aimed to accomplish, it ain't accomplishing it anymore.

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