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[wsandista]

There has been a huge amount of threads pertaining to that topic, but I have one request.

Please do not have graphic sex scenes(like the Witcher) like some are requesting. It would just be awkward to watch.

Also would it be possible for an LI to reject the PC because of their actions? That would be great.

[caradoc2000]

It is even more awkward to watch people having sex clothed.

[Chiramu]

It would be better if they had the blacked-out romance scenes that they gave to SWTOR.

It would also be cool if there could be a romance that wasn't all lovey-dovey.

[Cyne]

caradoc2000 wrote...

It is even more awkward to watch people having sex clothed.

This. And they can have nudity without being graphic. They did it in mass effect 1.

[wsandista]

Chiramu wrote...

It would be better if they had the blacked-out romance scenes that they gave to SWTOR.

It would also be cool if there could be a romance that wasn't all lovey-dovey.

I agree with this. Morrigan was close, but she softened up near the conclusion of DAO.

[Urzon]

wsandista wrote...

There has been a huge amount of threads pertaining to that topic, but I have one request.

Please do not have graphic sex scenes(like the Witcher) like some are requesting. It would just be awkward to watch.

Also would it be possible for an LI to reject the PC because of their actions? That would be great.

That is why they invented the "Skip" button. So if it does get awkward, you can just press it and skip over it.

It would also be cool if there could be a romance that wasn't all lovey-dovey.

^^ This.

Tender moments are all well and all, but i can't stand watching/reading romances that are 100% sugary sweet all the time. It makes me want to get some insulin, because just watching it makes my blood sugar spike.

[LuvPoison]

caradoc2000 wrote...

It is even more awkward to watch people having sex clothed.

Sex with cloth on??? .... I think that just might be four play your watching. 

Modifié par LuvPoison, 21 juin 2012 - 06:10 .

[hussey 92]

Considering people in ME3 showered with their clothes on, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

What DA franchise lacks is romance with animals and plants ... then you will fulfill the path of openmindness.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

S&M romance for Dragon Age 3.

[Chromie]

wsandista wrote...

Please do not have graphic sex scenes(like the Witcher) like some are requesting. It would just be awkward to watch.

Skip for ****s sake.

And Bioware one requests. Don't have romances people keep having wet dreams over them.

[Alexander1136]

 A lot of  games have an option to have high gore medium and low blood and gore. There should be an option for how sexual we want our cut scenes. There everybody wins. 

[Kidd]

wsandista wrote...

Also would it be possible for an LI to reject the PC because of their actions? That would be great.

This sounds great. We only have one such event in DA2. Moar would be nice =)

[MichaelStuart]

If there going to have sex scenes, I rather they show them fully than the half dressed cuddly thing they do now.
Although I admit that showing any kind of sex scene is as much plot relevant as watching someone eat.

I fully support love interests rejecting you.

[Uccio]

Go for TW2 style. Prudes can press ESC.

[Vormaerin]

If they are going to spend the effort on a cinematic, I'd like it to be something that advances the story instead of being pure fanservice. The long pan over Triss scene in The Witcher was pretty much porn because the whole point of the scene was to show Triss naked.

Obviously, Bioware isn't going to make that kind of scene based on their track record. But I do find it somewhere between mildly annoying and amusingly naive that the "payoff" for the romances is the sex scene. Like somehow having sex tells you that the other person cares. *rolls eyes*

Anyway, enough of that. Personally, I think the best romance they've ever done was Jaheira's (if you ignored the time line problems that BG2 was rife with). Tender scenes, gift giving, arguments, and effort involved... for a strong partner who wasn't trying to be codependent.

More please?

[AkiKishi]

Vormaerin wrote...

If they are going to spend the effort on a cinematic, I'd like it to be something that advances the story instead of being pure fanservice. The long pan over Triss scene in The Witcher was pretty much porn because the whole point of the scene was to show Triss naked.

More please?

No , the whole point of that scene was a reference to a story. You see Triss naked about 5 minutes after starting the game.

[berelinde]

^^(in reference to Jaheira) You forgot the shrewish nagging. The only female in BG2 I would have romanced was Mazzy, and she wasn't available.

Seriously, I don't care about the sex scenes. That isn't true. I thought the DA2 fade-to-black was fine. I thought the *modded* DA:O sex scenes were fine (once you got rid of the underwear, because that was just silly). If the game has romances, and I hope it will, I'd like them to be about getting to know each other, not just choosing a flirt at a critical point with the rest of the dialogue being identical whether you're friends or lovers.

Modifié par berelinde, 21 juin 2012 - 12:53 .

[Vormaerin]

BobSmith101 wrote...


No , the whole point of that scene was a reference to a story. You see Triss naked about 5 minutes after starting the game.

What story is it referencing?  Maybe I missed something in my play of the game.  The scene in general established various things (Like Triss and Geralt being lovers and with the king's army), but the panoramic view of Triss wasn't what established any of that.

[Vormaerin]

berelinde wrote...

^^(in reference to Jaheira) You forgot the shrewish nagging. T.

I don't consider her particularly shrewish, though she was bossy when she still considered you a idiot child she'd been asked to nursemaid.   But that's besides the point.   I wasn't advocating any particular personality.   I was talking about the structure of the romance.   No codependence, failure options, good times, arguments, etc.

Mazzy was the best character in that game, though, I will agree with that.   Though the way she treated Valygar.... heh.

[Plaintiff]

I don't need to see the sex at all. I think the fade-to-black in DA2 was just perfect.

It's enough for me to know that sex has occured, I don't consider unnecessarily long, clumsy softcore to be any sort of "reward".

In most other respects, I quite like the way Bioware handled the romances in DA2. Including the clearly designated "flirt" option in dialogues.

The way DA:O did it was just a complete mess. You want broken immersion? Try having Leliana congratulate you on bagging a hot man-elf, only to turn around in the very next conversation and **** you out for "cheating" on her when you've never so much as held hands. There's not even a dialogue option to call her out for being a bipolar, delusional ****. You basically have to "break up" with her, therefore legitimising her unwarranted assumption that you were ever in a relationship with her in the first place.

If I've been pounding Zevan into the dirt everytime I return to party camp, other members of the team should be able to get the hint on their own that, regardless of what I may or may not have said, I'm not interested in them and never was.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 21 juin 2012 - 01:11 .

[Plaintiff]

Vormaerin wrote...

If they are going to spend the effort on a cinematic, I'd like it to be something that advances the story instead of being pure fanservice. The long pan over Triss scene in The Witcher was pretty much porn because the whole point of the scene was to show Triss naked.

Obviously, Bioware isn't going to make that kind of scene based on their track record. But I do find it somewhere between mildly annoying and amusingly naive that the "payoff" for the romances is the sex scene. Like somehow having sex tells you that the other person cares. *rolls eyes*

Anyway, enough of that. Personally, I think the best romance they've ever done was Jaheira's (if you ignored the time line problems that BG2 was rife with). Tender scenes, gift giving, arguments, and effort involved... for a strong partner who wasn't trying to be codependent.

More please?

I don't really consider the sex scenes a "payoff" in DA:O, and especially not in DA2. The romances and the characters still develop beyond that. I saw the sex as a legitimate and logical step in the personal stories of the characters, and a springboard for further growth. It makes sense to establish if sex has occured (though explicitly showing it is unnecessary, at least for me), as plenty of people IRL would consider it a milestone in their own relationships.

In some cases, the sex isn't actually evidence of the other character "caring" for you. Zevran, Morrigan and Isabela all make it very clear, at least initially, that it was a relatively casual thing for them. Getting the eventual declaration of "love" takes a bit more work.

[Vormaerin]

Plaintiff wrote...
In some cases, the sex isn't actually evidence of the other character "caring" for you. Zevran, Morrigan and Isabela all make it very clear, at least initially, that it was a relatively casual thing for them. Getting the eventual declaration of "love" takes a bit more work.

Yeah, its not 100%.  Though I think you'll find that nearly all the exceptions are the "bad girl who is changed by love" characters.   Viconia, Jack, Morrigan, Zevran, Isabella.  

[chuckwells62]

Oh come on Bioware, just stop ****footing around here, and get at least a little hardcore on the lovin'. There are settings for everything else, so set a preference option for nude, semi-clothed, or nancy-boy chaste for the prudes, and then let us get our personal groove on Dragon Age-style.

[Iakus]

Plaintiff wrote...

I don't need to see the sex at all. I think the fade-to-black in DA2 was just perfect.

It's enough for me to know that sex has occured, I don't consider unnecessarily long, clumsy softcore to be any sort of "reward".

This.

I've got a good imagination, I know what goes where and don't need a game to draw me a picture.  A tender embrace and a fade to black can do just as much if not more to advance a romance storyline as a sex scene.  

Modifié par iakus, 21 juin 2012 - 03:21 .