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[Jademoon121]

The sex scenes in the Witcher, despite the vulgarity, were realistic and sometimes touching, especially between Geralt and Triss. Why? Because they have interaction, a relationship. There's nothing lewd about eloping in the most physical way possible.

In past games, romances were hard-earned goodies, but not part of the story. They were hidden side-quests. You really had to go out of your way to romance a character throughout the game, building up the suspense. When you cap the relationship with sex, no matter how it was depicted, it felt like an accomplishment. For example, both Jade Empire and Mass Effect for example had it before the final battle after spending hours on fighting alongside and getting to know your LI. Personally I think ME's was the most intimate and emotional of the two, including it's sex scence.

In comparison, the romances in DAO and DA2 were just too simple and easy; a few strands of skillful dialogue that led to a cliche explosion of corny dialogue and bumping unglies through underwear that could happen at almost any time. DA2's relationships were the worst of all being almost exactly the same. Having the LI be a quality character is important and plays a major role, but if the relationship isn't just as well-tailored, it's not something worth pursuing.

I hope that for DA3, it'll be quality over quantity. DA2 had too many choices that were too similar to be good, though the ability to have a relationship between the rivalry and friendship spectrum was a touch I would like to see in the next installment. Also, Bioware has to get over Carth Syndrom and all its related illnesses. Having someone love you because you remind them of a dead person is not romantic.

So bioware, please have actual sex scenes with acual relationships.

Modifié par Jademoon121, 22 juin 2012 - 12:10 .

[wsandista]

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


http://t3.gstatic.co...PY7kbY-ULJEw-To

[hussey 92]

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


http://t3.gstatic.co...PY7kbY-ULJEw-To

Can we save the ugly Avatar Elves for another thread?

Modifié par hussey 92, 22 juin 2012 - 01:21 .

[wsandista]

hussey 92 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


http://t3.gstatic.co...PY7kbY-ULJEw-To

Can we save the ugly Avatar Elves for another thread?

No. The hideous elves must be mentioned constantly until they never appear again.

[hussey 92]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...
No explicit sex in DA please.

But explicit sex goes great with explicit violence

[LolaLei]

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


http://t3.gstatic.co...PY7kbY-ULJEw-To

That's... seriously ****ed up!

[Rockworm503]

For me it should be all out or not at all.
Why even pretend their having sex when their still in clothes (Miranda's scene in ME2 was especially bad here)
Lets see the full package here.  The game isn't going to lose its M rating because their clothed and anyone saying it should stay classy.... Whats so classy about 2 people dry humping?  At least if their not afraid to show it then it proves they don't thinke we're idiots.  I'm not expecting much this is EAware after all but if their not willing to go the while way why bother doing it at all?

[Rockworm503]

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


http://t3.gstatic.co...PY7kbY-ULJEw-To

EW why do you think I never romanced Merrill?  Femhawke with Isabella for me 

[brushyourteeth]

hussey 92 wrote...

AstraDrakkar wrote...

I do NOT support the OP in this case. DA3 will no doubt be an M rated game. The cutscenes should reflect as much. I am an adult and when I purchase an M rated game, I expect it to be one. Oh and if DA3 ends up being T rated, I won't be buying it.

Yes, this is coming from a female player. I get tired of people taking in all the gore in a game without batting an eye, but Andraste forbid a little hanky panky.

I'm with this person^   If a game can have exploding enemies, what's wrong with a little nudity?

At least the Witcher 2, like Angry Joe said, treated us like adults

Really? Nothing makes me actually feel less like I'm being treated like an adult than having my story interrupted with awkward and unnecessary and needlessly graphic sex, like TW2. I know you can pass on most of those options but I was really just constantly reminded that "Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me." It was a game ruiner for me. I kept feeling like the game wanted Geralt to be a complete pervert and I was fighting against that mechanic the entire time. Even sex with Triss, which I totally approve of, isn't something I wanted to actually be witness to.

It was the same with the Game of Thrones tv show. The books had enough sex in them that HBO should have been satisfied with the amount of sexual content, but instead they wrote in extra sex scenes and characters just for the sake of having more nudity. I felt pretty talked down to - like they didn't really respect the source material (which I loved) by wasting time and resources on what was basically extra pornography, and like they expected me and all their other fans to be drooling porn hounds who weren't intellectually advanced enough to just, you know, be interested in the story.

So seriously, I don't want that for DA. Not even if it's just one scene, not even if it's with one character I've spent the entire game romancing. I didn't find the scenes in ME especially offensive, but I also don't think any kind of animated sexual acts are a feature worth spending our developer's valuable resources on when they could otherwise be putting their effort into making, you know, a game. Because if I what I want is sex I will go get some. What I want from Dragon Age is a great story, and no boobies are needed for that.

I'll bet by now you guys can tell I feel pretty strongly about this.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 22 juin 2012 - 02:25 .

[hussey 92]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...
No explicit sex in DA please.

But explicit sex goes great with explicit violence

Umm, hope you are not referring to them in combination here .

That would be scary....

no...  But someone did mention s&m romance earlier.

[wsandista]

hussey 92 wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...
No explicit sex in DA please.

But explicit sex goes great with explicit violence

Umm, hope you are not referring to them in combination here .

That would be scary....

no...  But someone did mention s&m romance earlier.

If there is, it should look like this.

[hussey 92]

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

[Rockworm503]

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

I know right?  I guess once you hit 15 your supposed to get over wanting sex...
We have porn that feels more intelligent than Bioware's romances.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Vormaerin wrote...

If they are going to spend the effort on a cinematic, I'd like it to be something that advances the story instead of being pure fanservice. The long pan over Triss scene in The Witcher was pretty much porn because the whole point of the scene was to show Triss naked.
?

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

[brushyourteeth]

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

[wsandista]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Vormaerin wrote...

If they are going to spend the effort on a cinematic, I'd like it to be something that advances the story instead of being pure fanservice. The long pan over Triss scene in The Witcher was pretty much porn because the whole point of the scene was to show Triss naked.
?

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

I didn't mind that scene, what I didn't like was the hooker scenes.

Bioware will never show ******(except on a broodmother) anyway, so avoiding the white underwear dry hump is what I want.

[Gibb_Shepard]

You know what else isn't needed in video games? Violence. I'd like it left o my imagination. People are holding swords, so i indeed expect what will happen. Seeing that sword pierce someones belly feels unnecessary to me.

Video games are obviously for 13 year old boys.

It's kind of scary how the western world (mainly America) treats sex in relation to violence. It's scary as ****, actually.

@wsandista: I agree, the hooker scenes were gratuitous. And that's fine if people dislike it. But the only sex scene i ever see lambasted is theTriss one; one of the only sex scenes to actually try and involve some form of storytelling, and only ever from BW fanboys. It's just a hilariously contradictory concept.

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 22 juin 2012 - 02:53 .

[brushyourteeth]

wsandista wrote...

Bioware will never show ******(except on a broodmother) anyway, so avoiding the white underwear dry hump is what I want.

True - I'll admit that's kind of a gross double standard. Blech.

[wsandista]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

You know what else isn't needed in video games? Violence. I'd like it left o my imagination. People are holding swords, so i indeed expect what will happen. Seeing that sword pierce someones belly feels unnecessary to me.

Video games are obviously for 13 year old boys.

It's kind of scary how the western world (mainly America) treats sex in relation to violence. It's scary as ****, actually.

@wsandista: I agree, the hooker scenes were gratuitous. And that's fine if people dislike it. But the only sex scene i ever see lambasted is theTriss one; one of the only sex scenes to actually try and involve some form of storytelling, and only ever from BW fanboys. It's just a hilariously contradictory concept.

Bioware fanboys also defend that trainwreck known as DA2, so that shows you were there heads are.

[berelinde]

LolaLei wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


<snip image>

That's... seriously ****ed up!

The scary part is that that is a runway model with elf ears and a bodysuit photoshopped on. In other words: real human. Somebody give that girl a cheeseburger.

[Rockworm503]

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

[wsandista]

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Do any of you really want graphic sex scenes with this?


<snip image>

That's... seriously ****ed up!

The scary part is that that is a runway model with elf ears and a bodysuit photoshopped on. In other words: real human. Somebody give that girl a cheeseburger.

http://t0.gstatic.co...QjhvEpQPO8kJhy1