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[brushyourteeth]

Rockworm503 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

What?

[Rockworm503]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

What?

You make sex seem like such a drag those few second you could've gotten laundery done or something.  Damn real life should just get rid of it altogether and focus more on the story! 

[deuce985]

I honestly would like more "mature" sex scenes. Bioware doesn't make rated T games, they're rated M. That means 18+. Which also means the majority of the people who are playing them should've experienced sex by now.

Rated R movies almost always have sex in a "mature" story. It doesn't have to be "graphic" like Witcher 2 but having sex with clothes on is more awkward than anything...seriously.

I mean, it's not like it's some big secret in life. Everybody has a life that revolves around this...it's apart of our nature. Why not have a little nudity? 

I'm not asking for scenes where I'm having a threesome and finding the best sexual position...

Romances feel a little more genuine when they show nudity. I might be alone in saying that but that's how I see it...

I weep for the world in Dragon Age where everyone makes love with clothes on. Where is the pleasure in life!? Not like FOX news or politicans are going to shut Bioware down for doing it...

[LolaLei]

Rockworm503 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

And I bet you've experienced that first hand. You might want to improve your sexual prowess a little more dear.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

And I bet you've experienced that first hand. You might want to improve your sexual prowess a little more dear.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Oh Lola...  amazing!

Not that it's any of your business, but I'm not actually a sex prude at all... I just prefer to have my own steamy adventures rather than beg video game developers to simulate them for me.

What can I say? Why work if you aren't working *hard*?

[PinkShoes]

I honestly dont care if we see the sex scenes or not. I just want depth to the romance. To all the characters.

[deuce985]

brushyourteeth first!!

[Rockworm503]

Avejajed wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

I bet you just lie there and ask "are you done yet" 

And here's a 14 year old boy in action. Point well made, Jack.

Thats right folks.  If I'm a 14 year old boy for liking teh sex I'll wear that title proudly.

Whose really acting immature here?  Honestly
Resorting to name calling.

[brushyourteeth]

deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth first!!

If I knew you in real life, this would make us friends.

+1!

[brushyourteeth]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

And here's a 14 year old boy in action. Point well made, Jack.

Thats right folks.  If I'm a 14 year old boy for liking teh sex I'll wear that title proudly.

Whose really acting immature here?  Honestly
Resorting to name calling.

You implied I was bad in the sack just for disagreeing with you about a video game.

So I say let's all stop pointing fingers and call it bygones, k?

[Nightdragon8]

yes and dont make them all bi.. or fawn over the Main hero all the time.

[hussey 92]

brushyourteeth wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

It's because "mature" is a word meant for people who are advanced enough to witness content like that without being deeply affected by it. 14 year old boys don't belong in that category. Really neither do adults that ravenously demand more and more of it like it's the most important thing ever. There's nothing mature about asking for sex or violence at the expense of the rest of the story. In a video game's case, that's exactly what a sex scene does - it leeches zots away from the rest of the game for a few short seconds of player arousal. If what we really want is for a scene to portray the depth and beauty of a relationship between two people, we'll lobby the developers for extra scenes of dialogue that bring us a deeper sense of intimacy, not arousal, and then fading to black or panning away will be fine.

Because we're all "adult" enough to know what goes on without having to slaver over every animated detail.

By the way, I have a brother who is 14 and love him to bits. I just happen to know how his brain works.

Who said a sex scene was "the most important thing ever"?  And I don't see how a slightly more graphic  romance would come at the exspense of the story.

Modifié par hussey 92, 22 juin 2012 - 07:20 .

[TJX2045]

wsandista wrote...

There has been a huge amount of threads pertaining to that topic, but I have one request.

Please do not have graphic sex scenes(like the Witcher) like some are requesting. It would just be awkward to watch.

Also would it be possible for an LI to reject the PC because of their actions? That would be great.

This is something we agree on.  The Witcher was basically porn in video game form.  Something that could pass for TV-MA but not raunchy enough for XXX.  Still was pretty distasteful to me.

Nightdragon8 wrote...

yes and dont make them all bi.. or fawn over the Main hero all the time.

 

Dear god, this thread is gonna get locked again if we go this route...people can never debate this civilly.

And uhm, no.  Keep them the way they are.

Modifié par TJX2045, 22 juin 2012 - 08:05 .

[Vormaerin]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

Actually, I was referring to the prologue scene where, for some reason, Geralt is wearing trousers but we get a nice eyeful of Triss.   The scene doesn't establish anything except that Triss and Geralt sleep together.   I guess I"m just too stupid ot understand the deep artistic meaning of that.   I mean, I never would have figured out that they were lovers or that guards were lascivious without the camera lingering on Triss' crotch. 

Not to mention, I didn't say anything complimentary about Bioware's "sex" scenes so I'm not sure how being even more disparaging of them invalidates anything I've said.

[AndrahilAdrian]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

Oh great, another post on these forums about how TW2 is increadibly deep and meaningful and the bestest thing ever compared to Dragon Age. You do realize this is the same series which gave us collectible sex cards, right? You really think CD Projekt didn't put that scene in mostly for titilation?

[Rockworm503]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

And here's a 14 year old boy in action. Point well made, Jack.

Thats right folks.  If I'm a 14 year old boy for liking teh sex I'll wear that title proudly.

Whose really acting immature here?  Honestly
Resorting to name calling.

You implied I was bad in the sack just for disagreeing with you about a video game.

So I say let's all stop pointing fingers and call it bygones, k?

I thinke you misinterperted me.  For one I thought putting a smily at the end made it clear that I was only joking.  And second I did not imply that you were bad I imply that you didn't enjoy it.  From the way you were talking it seemed you just bored with the whole concept and I thought I'd just joke about it.  No real harm meant in what I said.
Wanted to clear that up.
To be honest I don't really care what they do with DA3 I doubt I'll be getting it with Bioware's current direction.

[Gibb_Shepard]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

Oh great, another post on these forums about how TW2 is increadibly deep and meaningful and the bestest thing ever compared to Dragon Age. You do realize this is the same series which gave us collectible sex cards, right? You really think CD Projekt didn't put that scene in mostly for titilation?

Pointless post with loads of conjecture.

Next time try to make a point that is somewhat to do with the point you're replying to.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Vormaerin wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

This is absolutely hilarious. You obviously missed the part where half the scene was one of the Scoiatel speaking of an elven legend between two elven lovers. It was supposed to exemplify the love Triss and Geralt felt for eachother.

You haven't actually played the game have you? Typical BSN prudes. The dry hump scene in DAO was completely gratuitous, along with all Bioware sex scenes. TW2 is the only sex scene in recent memory where there has actually been some kind of story trying to be told.

Actually, I was referring to the prologue scene where, for some reason, Geralt is wearing trousers but we get a nice eyeful of Triss.   The scene doesn't establish anything except that Triss and Geralt sleep together.   I guess I"m just too stupid ot understand the deep artistic meaning of that.   I mean, I never would have figured out that they were lovers or that guards were lascivious without the camera lingering on Triss' crotch. 

Not to mention, I didn't say anything complimentary about Bioware's "sex" scenes so I'm not sure how being even more disparaging of them invalidates anything I've said.

So, why exactly did you continue to talk about the scene in the prologue when you knew i was talking about the one in the elven ruins? You seem to have grabbed the point i made, and then extrapolated it to a different scene.

The scene in the beginning, along with 90% of other media sex scenes, was gratuitous. The scene i was talking about, however, was not, for reason i already stated.

[AkiKishi]

Vormaerin wrote...

Actually, I was referring to the prologue scene where, for some reason, Geralt is wearing trousers but we get a nice eyeful of Triss.   The scene doesn't establish anything except that Triss and Geralt sleep together.   I guess I"m just too stupid ot understand the deep artistic meaning of that.   I mean, I never would have figured out that they were lovers or that guards were lascivious without the camera lingering on Triss' crotch. 

Not to mention, I didn't say anything complimentary about Bioware's "sex" scenes so I'm not sure how being even more disparaging of them invalidates anything I've said.

If you have never played Witcher or know anything about Geralt that's important. How the scene plays out and how they react to the guard, all part of the scene.
It's about what you would expect for an 18 rated movie and what an 18 rated game should not shy away from.

[Vormaerin]

BobSmith101 wrote...

If you have never played Witcher or know anything about Geralt that's important. How the scene plays out and how they react to the guard, all part of the scene.
It's about what you would expect for an 18 rated movie and what an 18 rated game should not shy away from.

Obviously, the scene is important.  But you don't need the eyeful of Triss and the camera focused on her lap to establish it.

Nice to see the double standard is still in play.  Wouldn't want a pantsless Geralt scaring any of those mature audiences away. 

[berelinde]

Every time somebody starts one of these threads, I keep thinking it's going to be about the romances. You know, the pacing, method of initiation, objects d'amour, that kind of thing. Instead, it always seems to be about whether or not there's a money shot. It's disappointing.

[AstraDrakkar]

hussey 92 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

"Oh. I forgot - this game is actually marketed to 14 year old boys whose parents aren't supposed to know they're playing it. Silly me."

How come everytime sex is included, people accuse the game of catering to 14 year old boys (who, according to forums are the worst people on earth)

I don't know but this 35 y/o woman happens to enjoy the sex scenes.  I might blush at some of them, but I have to admit I like them...very much.  

Modifié par AstraDrakkar, 22 juin 2012 - 12:30 .

[Vormaerin]

berelinde wrote...

Every time somebody starts one of these threads, I keep thinking it's going to be about the romances. You know, the pacing, method of initiation, objects d'amour, that kind of thing. Instead, it always seems to be about whether or not there's a money shot. It's disappointing.

It would be nice to discuss those other elements.  Though the problem there is with game length.  The shorter the game, the harder it is to do anything competent with pacing.     I did bring up those elements and why I thought they were done well in the Jaheira romance.   But my only feedback was that Jaheira was a nag.