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[TriniWarlord]

I hearby start my personal plea that the Cerberus Adept be changed to get Reave, Warp or Barrier instead of Singularity because he is almost the worst Adept. (fun to play definately) Seriously even the Human Adept has Warp with Shockwave to Detonate Armored targets. Besides once people get the Cerb Vanguard the Adept will see Absolutely NO play time.

Reave would be the most logical choice since it gives a temporary damage reduction when evolved so he can  come closer to the Vanguard (since he is a fragile close range class, for some play styles of course)

Warp will allow him to more easily set off bombs and debuff enemies

Barrier is Barrier, aoe damage in a pinch /w fast cooldown (in keepin with fast cooldown of all his abilities) plus damage reduction and melee & power damage bonuses while Barrier is active.. I mean come on this directly ties into to his playstyle

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EDIT: I use Singulrity myself I'm not bashing it I just think In My Opinion that there could be a better power on him that would make him much better since he dies so easily and is primarily a close up fighter. The purpose is not to bash Singularity but to think of other powers that could be used instead.

Modifié par TriniWarlord, 21 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[Kalas Magnus]

He would be overpowered with reave. Maybe give him dark channel. >

[swjobson]

i maxed singularity on my pa

[TriniWarlord]

Reave would be OP indeed and yup dark channel would be great on him, I didnt hav the From Ashes so I didnt know bout that power... LOL actually had to look it up

Altho Dark Channel seems like it'd be OP also

Modifié par TriniWarlord, 21 juin 2012 - 11:57 .

[TriniWarlord]

swjobson wrote...

i maxed singularity on my pa

How does it work out for Gold?

[PaunchyCyclops]

TriniWarlord wrote...

I hearby start my personal plea that the Cerberus Adept be changed to get Reave, Warp or Barrier instead of Singularity because he is almost the worst Adept.

I have to disagree with this, even though I play without singularity.

[Nl55]

Disagree too. Singularity not best, but class not worst.

[Snakeownss]

[quote]TriniWarlord wrote...

I hearby start my personal plea that the Cerberus Adept be changed to get Reave, Warp or Barrier instead of Singularity because he is almost the worst Adept. (fun to play definately) Seriously even the Human Adept has Warp with Shockwave to Detonate Armored targets. Besides once people get the Cerb Vanguard the Adept will see Absolutely NO play time.

Reave would be the most logical choice since it gives a temporary damage reduction when evolved so he can at least come a Little wee bit closer to the Vanguard (right now the Vanguard is Adept x10^6  due to charge)

Warp will allow him to more easily set off bombs and debuff enemies

Barrier is Barrier, aoe damage in a pinch /w fast cooldown (in keepin with fast cooldown of all his abilities) plus damage reduction and melee & power damage bonuses while Barrier is active.. I mean come on this directly ties into to his playstyle

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You are kinda a n00b if you don't like Singularity, it's very very good as an all around tool and especially devastating on the normal Human Adept. On the Phoenix is good too

I only play Gold btw heheh
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Modifié par Snakeownss, 21 juin 2012 - 12:05 .

[Gornok]

I play with the adept on all three levels... I understand that adding reave would make them extremely OP... if anything stasis or that phantom projectile absorbing palm shield ability would be much better for him based on cerberus' adept layout... either that or make him the first biotic infiltrator.

but worst? no... you need to learn how to work around their many whip animations to not get shot down.
Since singularity acts as a trap, the only replacement for it would be stasis, which also triggers Biotic explosions, which is singularity and lash or smash's effect.

[TriniWarlord]

Nl55 wrote...

Disagree too. Singularity not best, but class not worst.

Didnt say worst, almost worst and primarily once there is the Vanguard is there any real point to play him?

[Lima54]

He's fine with Singularity. About the Vanguard, I never use him. Or any other (Krogan as the exception). I don't like to host (usually my teammates get too laggy), and I don't like to fall through/fly around the map. As the Krogan can survive a second smashing the charge button (usually), he's the only one I'm willing to take a risk with.

[PaperAlien]

Reave would be complete madness. Also would make excellent fireworks: Smash>Reave when target is 200 metres in the sky.

[TriniWarlord]

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You are kinda a n00b if you don't like Singularity, it's very very good as an all around tool and especially devastating on the normal Human Adept. On the Phoenix is good too

I only play Gold btw heheh
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Critize does not mean disrespect, and I didnt say Singularity is not a good power jus that he'd be better with a different power (singularity is good against lesser enemies but does nothing against armor and shields) and when compared to the Vanguard which has the same powers with Charge he isnt as good.

btw I also only play Gold

[TriniWarlord]

Lima54 wrote...

He's fine with Singularity. About the Vanguard, I never use him. Or any other (Krogan as the exception). I don't like to host (usually my teammates get too laggy), and I don't like to fall through/fly around the map. As the Krogan can survive a second smashing the charge button (usually), he's the only one I'm willing to take a risk with.

How do you usually build him? which do u think is the best?  I'd like to try it out

[xROLLxTIDEx]

Learn how to use Singularity. It is an awesome power if you use it for what it can do. Not only that, it is the perfect complimentary power to both the HA and the PA.

I play both the HA and the PA on gold. I use a max singularity with both characters. I use a 6/6/6/5/3 build with both.

There is a big difference between _____ power sucks and I suck with _____ power.

[RequiemPrime]

swjobson wrote...

i maxed singularity on my pa

Same here.  My PA is a walking trap.  He ambushes, and destroyes mob with Singularity and Smash..  And the plus that Phantoms are scared to go through it so there just stand there allowing be to beat the little ****es into the ground. 


Also if you have another Adept, Justicar, or a Vangaurd on your team or all of them at once......WOOHOO baby!

Modifié par Angelwave, 21 juin 2012 - 12:40 .

[Nl55]

Didnt say worst, almost worst and primarily once there is the Vanguard is there any real point to play him?

If singularity useless for my play style i go in 0/6/6/6/6 and it work good.
I choose vanguard if i want to charge enemies.
I don't like singularity, but some peoples who like it...

[PieMagistrate]

Singularity has many good uses, it lets me smash ravagers instead of their swarmers, in addition locking down corridors. Love me meleedept 4/6/6/4/6

[GGW KillerTiger]

You do realize smash does so much damage to armor that he doesn't need biotic explosions. Right?

[Ogrinash]

Singularity can come in handy for the fodder in early Waves.

Plus it's easy to detonate with Lash.

[Mesonak]

I'd be down with barrier. Don't think that would be too OP, and it'd give you a reason to play him over the vanguard.

[humes spork]

Singularity is worth 3 ranks, but it's hard to justify more -- nice, considering rank 6 in phoenix training is extremely difficult to justify for the class. It gives you utility in being able to mop up swarmers and basic troopers (who, despite what the community thinks are more dangerous than they first appear), and BE at range albeit at reduced power.

[Raziel1030]

I play both, vanguard for charge when things get sticky and adept to throw things around. Singularity is fine. I used to think it was bad but you trap one mob in a narrow corridor and smash him, the explosions tag everyone, no one can pass.
Also, nice to see a fellow trini:D

[IndigoVitare]

You underestimate Singularity. Sure it's not amazingly useful, but there are many situations where it is helpful.

Throw one at a Ravager before you Smash it to prevent Swarmers soaking up all your Smash. Paralyze groups of unshielded enemies while you take on harder ones. Stagger Guardians so you can get away.

And mine's only Rank 3.

The Pheonix Adept is far from the "worst" adept in the game. It just plays very differently. People struggle with it at first, with many dismissing it there and then as weak. The same thing happened for the defence build Justicar. Even now I hardly ever see it, despite the fact it's incredibly effective once you know what you're doing.

The other problem is unfavourable comparison to the Pheonix Vanguard. Again this is a mistake. People look at the abilities and see Biotic Charge and Singularity. One is clearly better than the other, therefore that class is better. Wrong. The Pheonix Vanguard plays completely differently, much like how all Vanguards are different to their Adept partners. Sure, you could use the Vanguard in the same way as the Adept, but why would you do that when you can use the Adept? Biotic Charge in such a play style is entirely situational... just like Singularity. Any advantage it has when used as a main ability is lost when it's not the focus of the character.

[LeandroBraz]

Singularity+Lash is amazing. The only weakness he have is that he don't have a effective way to hit armored enemies that are distant, like a ravager. I get locked in open area maps when a ravager decide that shooting me is a good idea.
But we need to remember one thing, it's a coop. We are not supposed to solve every situation alone, even if some classes can do that. I rely on my team to deal with ravagers on the other side of the map.