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[AmstradHero]

Simple question: Do you read entries in the codex? To get more specific, which type of entries interest you more?

Do you care about:
Areas
History
Culture
Characters
Enemies/Creatures
Assorted Poems/Songs/Books/Letters
Items
Other (please specify)

No, I didn't want to put this as a poll, because I'd like people to be able to indicate more than one option.

I'm interested in this from a general perspective (because I like reading these, and would like to other players also get a kick out of them), and also becaue I'm looking at it for my own modding purpose within Dragon Age: Origins - how many more codex entries should I write, and where should I focus my attention. (I have 35 already and have many more in note form at the current time)


Also, and this applies equally to all parties, though is probably more applicable where are less interested in a type of entry.
What would make you more interested in reading codex entries?

How could they be written/re-written to make them more interesting?

e.g. For those who find character codex entries have too much meta information, how would you rewrite them?
If you don't read area entries because you want to experience an area, would reading say a journal entry from someone describing their experience or passage through an area be more palatable?

Modifié par AmstradHero, 23 juin 2012 - 08:19 .

[Wulfram]

I read the codex, but usually on the wiki rather than in the game. Usually history, culture and character stuff.

[tomorrowstation]

I usually skip all the entries for characters, creatures, and locations. I like to find out as much about them in game.

Items and lore, however, I always check out whenever they pop up. I've always been a sucker for unique weapons with bloody and storied pasts, so much so that now when I play DA:O or DA2, I never equip vanilla weapons on any party member if I can help it. Items with history and not just a cool name makes the game better.
I only wish there were a better way to access those entries without scrolling through a HUGE honking list.

[MichaelStuart]

I read all of the codex, the history ones are my favorite.

[wsandista]

I read them in DAO.

Skipped them in DA2, because the UI wasn't as good.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

The first time, yes. Subsequent plays, nerp.

[Dwarva]

Nah. I read them on the Wiki - not in game. Am far too impatient to be doing other things while in game...

[whykikyouwhy]

I try to read them all, and I find that all of the codex types (lore, characters, creatures, etc) have something of interest within them. I especially like when a little humor has been added.

[bleetman]

Yes. All of then. I'm a nerd

[DahliaLynn]

During my first playthrough of Dragon Age 2, I began to read codex entries passionately. This was because I was familiar with the lore from the first game and was yearning to know more. I lost my patience the minute I felt overwhelmed, which  was likely the time I lost understanding and continuity with the information given. While it was nice to have it as an option, it took too much time away from gameplay.

Within Origins, while initially I was very interested and curious, it became overwhelming eventually. The rich world was layed on me textually, as opposed to learning through game advancement and experience. The long history and sometimes disjointed letters while interesting to a certain degree, took too much time away from the actual game, and since it had no bearing on actual gameplay, I stopped reading it in game.

If anything, knowing that the codex entries actually had something to do with gameplay, i.e. deciding on dialogue options, major decisions in the game, or solving special puzzles, it would certainly increase my desire to read them through. If it's for "just to know" purposes, then I would read them sparingly, depending on my interest on the subject matter.

Edit: This is a reply to the OP's original topic question  "Do you read codex entries?"

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 23 juin 2012 - 11:41 .

[brushyourteeth]

yep!

[thats1evildude]

Indeed, though I just gloss over the ones I've read already.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 21 juin 2012 - 05:23 .

[Cirram55]

@DahliaLynn
Yeah I agree when you say that the devs and writers should really devote more effort in putting what's in the codices in the actual game. Not only to avoid walls of text, but because it grants more cohesion between lore and gameplay.

[Arthur Cousland]

Certain ones, I'll read.  After repeated playthroughs, I'll just collect them for the xp, but not read them as I already know what they say.

I'd like more codex entries to affect actual gameplay, like in the Summoning Sciences sidequest during Broken Circle in Origins.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 21 juin 2012 - 05:26 .

[DahliaLynn]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

I'd like more codex entries to affect actual gameplay, like in the Summoning Sciences sidequest during Broken Circle in Origins.

I loved that little quest!!!

[CuriousArtemis]

I never read codex entries on either game until Hawke and his friends actually commented on them in Legacy. I read those.

[Chaia]

 Sometimes, really it depends on what the codex is about, but usually characters, history, culture that kinda thing.

Like I said it depends on what the contents is about, i.e. if its about Flemeth/Witch of the Wilds, Old Gods, the Qunari etc then I'll probably read it no matter which heading its under, but if its about things I'm not interested in well, no.

Simailary with letters/notes, I'll read the ones that are about characters or the quest I'm on that interests me etc.

[Yara C.]

AmstradHero wrote...

Simple question: Do you read entries in the codex? To get more specific, which type of entries interest you more?

Do you care about:
Areas
History
Culture
Characters
Enemies/Creatures
Assorted Poems/Songs/Books/Letters
Items
Other (please specify)

Yes, I read them but the degree of interest depends on the type. The interest depends on the context where and when the codex entry pops up as well. I read some more or less immediately if they do not disturb my gaming flow. Some types always later as collection.

To comment on the mentioned types:

Areas - lower interest during a play through. Maybe before the final or even later. During a playthrough I want to explore areas, not to read about them.

History and Culture - highest interest. Most of them immediately when the codex entry pops up. I like if they provide me with additional information I can´t gain in a satisfying manner through interactions. Additional information about past events (e.g. the rise and fall of ..., family backgrounds), political or societal fractions and structures (e.g. brotherhoods, hierarchies) which can enhance my immersion and can have a potential impact on my role immanent decision system.

These codex entries pop up more often when it is convenient and seem less interrupting my flow. Codex entries triggered by books and letters in a library or other circumstances when it fits best into the flow / immersion and it feels more like a reward. (Role character stealthed, sneaks around ...or after a boss fight as a relaxing element of the tension curve)

Playing the mage origin I would have preferred to read about the fraternities in the library. To get these information by a conversation with a mage felt out of role for me, artificial.

Characters - with the above mentioned exemptions lower interest. I want to learn about npcs through dialogues / interactions.

Enemies/ creatures - in the DA series rather annoying. Codex entries pop up after the first appearance which is nearly always a fight. Everything I want to know about enemies / creatures I have already learned during the the fight. (And if there´s something left which I should know for the tactics - fine, I will learn it during the next fight.) Book codex entries about demons would be acceptable for me but should fit into the context (e.g. circle)
Popping up after a fight - superflous.

Assorted Poems/Songs/ - no real interest.

Books/Letters - as a vehicle for additional information high interest. If the codex entries are connected to a side quest it could be very valuable.

If the codex entries would deliver puzzles of information and you could gain slowly an insight in the context of a new quest. - that would be inspiring.
I do not think of riddles (low interest) or something like 'Ah, again a book of... I have again triggered a fight against the next revenant' - boring.
No, I can imagine to gain information e.g. about a trait by a letter and other items which introduce into a side quest. Where the big picture what is going on and what the new challenge is slowly unfolds. Where codex entries are not used as a McGuffin...

Items like weapons, armors etc. - no real interest to learn about the origin of the items. I find the the only information about these type of items I want to know in the inventory: the stats.

I dislike if a codex entry is only available during a fight because I see it as a disruption. But as reward for collectors - okay...

Independant of the type - a good portion of humorous codex entries are always worthwile to be read and very appreciated. I found the codex entry about the socks in the Emporium amusing but nearly a bit too overdone. Dosis facet.

Modifié par Yara Cousland, 21 juin 2012 - 08:14 .

[Androme]

 I read all of them, unless it's something I already know almost everything about.

[Melca36]

AmstradHero wrote...

Simple question: Do you read entries in the codex? To get more specific, which type of entries interest you more?

Do you care about:
Areas
History
Culture
Characters
Enemies/Creatures
Assorted Poems/Songs/Books/Letters
Items
Other (please specify)

No, I didn't want to put this as a poll, because I'd like people to be able to indicate more than one option.

I'm interested in this from a general perspective (because I like reading these, and would like to other players also get a kick out of them), and also becaue I'm looking at it for my own modding purpose within Dragon Age: Origins - how many more codex entries should I write, and where should I focus my attention. (I have 35 already and have many more in note form at the current time)

I am codex addict!! Things like that make me enjoy the game more.

[SphereofSilence]

Here's a collection of some of the best 'codexes' seen, which I hope they will apply for Dragon Age.

[Jozape]

tomorrowstation wrote...

I usually skip all the entries for characters, creatures, and locations. I like to find out as much about them in game.

Items and lore, however, I always check out whenever they pop up. I've always been a sucker for unique weapons with bloody and storied pasts, so much so that now when I play DA:O or DA2, I never equip vanilla weapons on any party member if I can help it.

Likewise. I think many of the in-game codices offer too much meta-game knowledge(particularly the character codices), but I can't resist the item ones.

[PinkShoes]

I read them more in DA2 because they popped up and i didnt need to go through loads to find the one i want. But i read most of them on the wiki