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Don't rush Bioware for EC. Longer it takes, the better.


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IntoTheDarkness

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Why do you think DA2 and ME3 felt so incomplete?

If Bioware is taking time to make EC you should be appreciative of the fact they are putting proper efforts on free product and you should be more patient, too.

It's the law that investment and results are in direct proportion. The longer it takes, more complete it is going to be. Why you are even trying to put pressure on Bioware is beyond me. You wanted a better ending, and it will only get better if you exercise some sensible patience on the matter.

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I can wait.

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Majin Paul

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Agreed, while I want to know what they do, I can certainly wait a while for it.

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According to Michael Gamble and the source that leaked the Rebellion Pack details, it's already finished. Plus, we really can't expect much, considering that Bioware already announced that it will just be a few added scenes expanding on the ending that already happened, not changing it.

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I can wait too, take as much time as needed to actually put the polish on the end that the rest of the game showed.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Why do you think DA2 and ME3 felt so incomplete?

If Bioware is taking time to make EC you should be appreciative of the fact they are putting proper efforts on free product and you should be more patient, too.

It's the law that investment and results are in direct proportion. The longer it takes, more complete it is going to be. Why you are even trying to put pressure on Bioware is beyond me. You wanted a better ending, and it will only get better if you exercise some sensible patience on the matter.

The problem is that most of the people didn't like the ending won't be happy with the explaination from the EC.  Don't forget that there have been projects especially video games that didn't live up to their long weights.  I can't wait for the extension and I liked the ending while there will be a good amount of rage released from the minority.

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

According to Michael Gamble and the source that leaked the Rebellion Pack details, it's already finished. Plus, we really can't expect much, considering that Bioware already announced that it will just be a few added scenes expanding on the ending that already happened, not changing it.

The problem here is that the original confirmation of Rebellion came from a Sony Hong Kong leak before this reddit guy, but you're right about the what Bioware said because they announce that at this year's PAX East. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 juin 2012 - 03:35 .


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I agree, they should take their time with it, but they also could release some info and screenshots every once in awhile. Waiting in complete silence is harder.

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i cant say its really on my mind every day; i can wait

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Blueprotoss wrote...

I can't wait for the extension and I liked the ending while there will be a good amount of rage released from the minority.


People really should stop using words like majority and minority when talking about the people that like/dislike the ending.

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...
Plus, we really can't expect much, considering that Bioware already announced that it will just be a few added scenes expanding on the ending that already happened


Its funny because Bioware said the entirely opposite thing.  >_>

Modifié par SolidRevolver, 21 juin 2012 - 03:38 .


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SolidRevolver wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...
Plus, we really can't expect much, considering that Bioware already announced that it will just be a few added scenes expanding on the ending that already happened


Its funny because Bioware said the entirely opposite thing.  >_>


That may be true, but look at this:

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/ 

The key words are extended scenes.

Also, this:  "No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned." 

Plus, Bioware also originally "promised" that there would be many different endings, and it wouldn't just be A, B, or C. So, I'm not exactly putting my trust into what Bioware is saying.

Modifié par ThaneKriosIsBoss, 21 juin 2012 - 03:43 .


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I just assumed it was taking so long because they had no idea what to make of the ending themselves and were painted in a corner after the company took the 'we wont change the ending only explain it' stance.

If they were to change the endings to something that made sense it probably would have been done by now.

Also no favors are being done by putting this out for free, they lost a lot of fans with DA2 and now with the anger at the ending of their other big series the company is trying to retain customers for future products.

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I'm guessing it's gonna be a slideshow of pictures of the aftermath with narration by liam neeson.

u know it be true.

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

That may be true, but look at this:

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/ 

Plus, Bioware also originally "promised" that there would be many different endings, and it wouldn't just be A, B, or C. So, I'm not exactly putting my trust into what Bioware is saying.


That doesn't really say 'a few new scenes'.
Also, for the ending comment, I'd argue that the whole game is full of endings.  I ended the genophage arc, the Quarian/Geth conflict and just because it all didn't happen in the last 5 minutes doesn't matter to me.  But thats re-opening another can of worms.

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SolidRevolver wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

That may be true, but look at this:

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/ 

Plus, Bioware also originally "promised" that there would be many different endings, and it wouldn't just be A, B, or C. So, I'm not exactly putting my trust into what Bioware is saying.


That doesn't really say 'a few new scenes'.
Also, for the ending comment, I'd argue that the whole game is full of endings.  I ended the genophage arc, the Quarian/Geth conflict and just because it all didn't happen in the last 5 minutes doesn't matter to me.  But thats re-opening another can of worms.


Of course the whole game is full of endings to all the smaller story arcs. But all those don't even matter at the end because the final ending doesn't make any sense at all.

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Metalunatic wrote...

People really should stop using words like majority and minority when talking about the people that like/dislike the ending.

If its used as a fact instead of an opinion then its okay like how the minority liked ME3's ending and how the majority hated Duke Nukem: Forever, but the imprtant part is your own opinion rather then someone following a bandwagon.  Either way thats not what the topic is about.

 

SolidRevolver wrote...

Also, for the ending comment, I'd argue that the whole game is full of endings.  I ended the genophage arc, the Quarian/Geth conflict and just because it all didn't happen in the last 5 minutes doesn't matter to me.  But thats re-opening another can of worms.

Agreed because ME3 is the conclusion of Shepard's arc just like how ME1 was the beginning and ME2 was the middle. 

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote... 

Plus, Bioware also originally "promised" that there would be many different endings, and it wouldn't just be A, B, or C. So, I'm not exactly putting my trust into what Bioware is saying.

There are 16 different endings while those endings don't fall under A, B, or C but they are based on your choices and/or lack of choices throughout the series.  its better off moving on instead of complaining by using nippicks, which I hope you have a good amount of RPGs under your belt by talking about different endings. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 juin 2012 - 04:03 .


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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

According to Michael Gamble...it's already finished.


I've seen several people say that, but where has Michael ever claimed that?


SolidRevolver wrote...

Also, for the ending comment, I'd argue that the whole game is full of endings.  I ended the genophage arc, the Quarian/Geth conflict and just because it all didn't happen in the last 5 minutes doesn't matter to me.  But thats re-opening another can of worms.


For what it's worth, I have the same viewpoint.

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

Of course the whole game is full of endings to all the smaller story arcs. But all those don't even matter at the end because the final ending doesn't make any sense at all.


I'd also argue that comment.  But thats going way off topic.

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[/quote] 
[quote]ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

According to Michael Gamble...it's already finished.[/quote]

I've seen several people say that, but where has Michael ever claimed that?
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He tweeted something, and the general assumption is that he was referring to Extended Cut.
http://social.biowar...12655333-1.html 

I know, it's not really solid, but what else could he be referring to? He is the head of DLC.

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

According to Michael Gamble and the source that leaked the Rebellion Pack details, it's already finished. Plus, we really can't expect much, considering that Bioware already announced that it will just be a few added scenes expanding on the ending that already happened, not changing it.




Where did u get that info? Or did you just make it up right now? Very interesting though

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

He tweeted something, and the general assumption is that he was referring to Extended Cut.
http://social.biowar...12655333-1.html 

I know, it's not really solid, but what else could he be referring to? He is the head of DLC.

No offense but thats a huge assumption especially when it could be a ppersonal project, a project outside of Bioware, or a completely different Bioware project.

taggen86 wrote...

Where did u get that info? Or did you just make it up right now? Very interesting though

Apparently people are referring to a reddit user even when the Rebellion pack was unnoffically announced before that user form the Sony Hong Kong leak. 

http://www.insidegam...-leaked-online/

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 juin 2012 - 04:10 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

He tweeted something, and the general assumption is that he was referring to Extended Cut.
http://social.biowar...12655333-1.html 

I know, it's not really solid, but what else could he be referring to? He is the head of DLC.

No offense but thats a huge assumption especially when it could be a ppersonal project, a project outside of Bioware, or a completely different Bioware project.


I know, it is an assumption. But it is an assumption believed by many. Plus, there have been several sources reporting the same thing, that EC is finished.

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Once again, it will take as long as it needs to take. Not any more, nor any less. Whether we announce tomorrow, next week or next month, when it is done, it is because it it done.



:devil:

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@Chris Very well said :)

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ThaneKriosIsBoss wrote...

He tweeted something, and the general assumption is that he was referring to Extended Cut.
http://social.biowar...12655333-1.html 

I know, it's not really solid, but what else could he be referring to? He is the head of DLC.


I thought that was what you were referring to. I know that Mike Tweeted about showing something at SDCC, which would be almost a full month after those Tweets. It just doesn't make sense to me (Assuming he is referring to the EC) why they would leave the DLC sitting around for a month. It couldn't be for certification, as it only takes Microsoft/Sony one week to do that.

Modifié par COGNiTiON 1, 21 juin 2012 - 04:16 .