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Don't rush Bioware for EC. Longer it takes, the better.


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alienatedflea wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake

why? bioware needs to make an update or something to cut single player campaign from multiplayer...they penaltize you if you do not part take in multiplayer by not giving you the "best" ending...EC will not change anything in my mind when I have to waste hours in multiplayer to get the "good" ending...its bull****ey

really because I managed to get the best ending with out needing multiplayer I hate mp and avoid it now to many rude people on there and I hate being kicked off in bronze

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake

why? bioware needs to make an update or something to cut single player campaign from multiplayer...they penaltize you if you do not part take in multiplayer by not giving you the "best" ending...EC will not change anything in my mind when I have to waste hours in multiplayer to get the "good" ending...its bull****ey

really because I managed to get the best ending with out needing multiplayer I hate mp and avoid it now to many rude people on there and I hate being kicked off in bronze

Oh and how much EMS did you manage to get w/o MP?

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Icemix wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake

why? bioware needs to make an update or something to cut single player campaign from multiplayer...they penaltize you if you do not part take in multiplayer by not giving you the "best" ending...EC will not change anything in my mind when I have to waste hours in multiplayer to get the "good" ending...its bull****ey

really because I managed to get the best ending with out needing multiplayer I hate mp and avoid it now to many rude people on there and I hate being kicked off in bronze

Oh and how much EMS did you manage to get w/o MP?

Just over 5000

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I've heard that they've already had people recording their voice work, so it can be assumed that the story aspect may have already been written and that they're working on other stuff. Who knows though?

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Just over 5000


That's impossible without a hacked coasleced.bin file.

You're not by any chance playing a pirated copy, are you? A lot of those have been hacked this way.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 juin 2012 - 06:52 .


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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake

why? bioware needs to make an update or something to cut single player campaign from multiplayer...they penaltize you if you do not part take in multiplayer by not giving you the "best" ending...EC will not change anything in my mind when I have to waste hours in multiplayer to get the "good" ending...its bull****ey

really because I managed to get the best ending with out needing multiplayer I hate mp and avoid it now to many rude people on there and I hate being kicked off in bronze

Oh and how much EMS did you manage to get w/o MP?

Just over 5000

Wait a minute, are you confusing total and effective military ratings?

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Once again, it will take as long as it needs to take. Not any more, nor any less. Whether we announce tomorrow, next week or next month, when it is done, it is because it it done.



:devil:


I know you mean well, but I hope you'll excuse me if I don't jump for joy.

"Trust is a little hard to come by these days", especially when the same thing was said for Dragon Age 2. And that was... well, for a year's development it was great, but... yeah. I still can't believe that game went gold. Couple that with all the horrifically bad PR talk, and although I have hopes for this DLC, I'm also very sceptical.

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake

why? bioware needs to make an update or something to cut single player campaign from multiplayer...they penaltize you if you do not part take in multiplayer by not giving you the "best" ending...EC will not change anything in my mind when I have to waste hours in multiplayer to get the "good" ending...its bull****ey

really because I managed to get the best ending with out needing multiplayer I hate mp and avoid it now to many rude people on there and I hate being kicked off in bronze

Oh and how much EMS did you manage to get w/o MP?

Just over 5000



That's impossible without exploiting a glitch or outright cheating. Or you're probably confusing EMS with TMS. As has already been proven by fellow members who datamined the game here on BSN, there's only about 8300 or so points of total War Assets, some of which are impossible to get because they'd require things that can't be done in a normal playthrough (save and sacrifice Council, save both Ash and Kaidan, for instance). Cutting those out you get about 7500 or so possible War assets,  and seeing as EMS is dependent on Galactic Readiness, which remains at 50% without multiplayer, it's impossible to get more than 5000 EMS, let alone 4000 EMS. BW's (Gamble) even acknowledged the problem and said that they're investigating it.

See here for more info on it.

Modifié par Urdnot Amenark, 21 juin 2012 - 07:12 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

Once again, it will take as long as it needs to take. Not any more, nor any less. Whether we announce tomorrow, next week or next month, when it is done, it is because it it done.



:devil:


In the interim, instead of pumping out MP DLC.... why don't you chaps fix the EMS / MultiPlayer issue or atleast release a statement on what you attend to do about it? 

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oh yes...please rather take your time on the EC.... & next time rather have the same attitude before you release a half baked game!!!

Modifié par jlmaclachlan, 21 juin 2012 - 07:47 .


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Fireblader70 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Once again, it will take as long as it needs to take. Not any more, nor any less. Whether we announce tomorrow, next week or next month, when it is done, it is because it it done.



:devil:


I know you mean well, but I hope you'll excuse me if I don't jump for joy.

"Trust is a little hard to come by these days", especially when the same thing was said for Dragon Age 2. And that was... well, for a year's development it was great, but... yeah. I still can't believe that game went gold. Couple that with all the horrifically bad PR talk, and although I have hopes for this DLC, I'm also very sceptical.


Mmmm I'm the same. I have high hopes but also will not be suprised if it just turns out to be a powerpoints idiots guide to the ending. What is required is a rewrite of the last 10mins which I'm afraid aint going to happen.

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Is anyone still feeling excited for the EC? I'm interested to see what they come up with but I can wait...

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I'm fine with it taking a while, but I would like a few more hints and less silence.

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Since Bioware stuck to their ending and they will only expand on it few people have their hopes up on it doing anything awesome. That makes it hard to understand what is taking them so long to make.

At any rate I think Bioware's efforts on EC seam excesive, I understand them sticking to their ending on principle and not seting up the precedent of a meaningfull change, but even them by now understand the ending actually sucked on a technical writing style basis, very little to argue in its favour other than "I liked it" which a few people do. Given that, EC will at most appease a good chunk of those of us who were highly disapointed by the ending but they are not going to make us happy. So why does apparently involve so much work?? I just don't understand it.

Modifié par Disgruntled Shepard, 21 juin 2012 - 08:20 .


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Disgruntled, I think the question is unanswerable since it really is one of whether there will be "gameplay" or not. The more interesting question is the term "gameplay". Is it moving around, interracting etc. or is it just additional dialogue choices. I suspect we'll see "gameplay" and not simply some cheesy epilogue stating in writing ("Joker and EDI grew old together and made three greenish-tinted babies")

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I support this.... also according to Mike Gamble, its not just a few cutscenes dont get your expectations up but I expect they will come through

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I mean if they dont put effort into this after all of their fans expressing that this can make or break them and then they go and make it suck, obv that means they dont care....... most people talk negatively about EC just to make Bioware want to prove us wrong its called REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY and I hope it will work

Modifié par I can Hackett, 21 juin 2012 - 08:50 .


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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Just over 5000

You must be confusing Total Military Strength with Effective Military Strength. It's literally impossible to have that much EMS without completing a few multiplayer matches down the road (or, as mentioned by others, editing the game files).

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ryuson2000 wrote...

I'm guessing it's gonna be a slideshow of pictures of the aftermath with narration by liam neeson.

u know it be true.


War.  War never changes.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Again, incorrect. The leak came from that user long before the Sony Asia site. The initial thread about the leak here already over 70 pages of discussion before the Sony Asia listing was posted.

If you're going to use the correct information then you would know that it was Sony Hong Kong not Sony Asia and the 1st amount of Rebellion information was from that Sony Hong Kong leak.

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I just wish that they would spend more dev time fixing the glitches that this game is ridden with.

Its almost impossible to fix all the glitches in games especially when you're talking about RPGs and Multiplayer games.  Btw coding isn't an easy job based on how a bug fix could create another bug. 

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

That's impossible without exploiting a glitch or outright cheating. Or you're probably confusing EMS with TMS. As has already been proven by fellow members who datamined the game here on BSN, there's only about 8300 or so points of total War Assets, some of which are impossible to get because they'd require things that can't be done in a normal playthrough (save and sacrifice Council, save both Ash and Kaidan, for instance). Cutting those out you get about 7500 or so possible War assets,  and seeing as EMS is dependent on Galactic Readiness, which remains at 50% without multiplayer, it's impossible to get more than 5000 EMS, let alone 4000 EMS. BW's (Gamble) even acknowledged the problem and said that they're investigating it.

Its possible to get the maxmium EMS without playing the MP because you can make up that differenece buy playing ME: Infiltrator or using the Datapad app. 

stonbw1 wrote...

Disgruntled, I think the question is unanswerable since it really is one of whether there will be "gameplay" or not. The more interesting question is the term "gameplay". Is it moving around, interracting etc. or is it just additional dialogue choices. I suspect we'll see "gameplay" and not simply some cheesy epilogue stating in writing ("Joker and EDI grew old together and made three greenish-tinted babies")

So far the dialogue and cutscenes have only been announced while I see no reason to do otherwise. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 juin 2012 - 09:54 .


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this is from some other thread that is linked in this thread...but this statement sums up how EC will suck because people will have to waste hours playing mp to get the ending they want..assuming EC actually changes anything at all...i mean they said they are keeping the A,B,C endings as is...so what the heck are they doing? oh yea...NOTHING...I can only see having something like in Dragon Age origins where they had paragraphs summing up what happened after the final boss fight...which in this cause...was Marauder Sheilds... >.< so here is the statement,

"These are cold hard FACTS, not a matter of opinion like the endings. Why has there not been any acknowledgement that this issue is real and exists? And can you imagine how many people would explode when the Extended Cut DLC is released and they discover they can't get the best result without multiplayer? "

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Ravenmyste wrote...

would you like for me to show you non paid review sites that played including ign?
that said its sucks and the story is aweful also gamespot also gave it very low rating of bad
so i am sorry but how am i contradicting my self when every non paid game reviewer said and rated that played the entire game says its bad game? in cluding gamespot, ign and gtv and etc all said it was poorly made and controls are clunky, all its is was a cash grab the company that made was endorsed to make it knew it was going to make money off a hit series

here one from ign www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/15/game-of-thrones-review
here one from digital spy for the pc www.digitalspy.com/gaming/s151/game-of-thrones/review/a385999/game-of-thrones-game-review-pc-failing-to-take-the-crown.html

here one from forbes: www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/05/16/game-of-thrones-rpg-first-impressions/

should i keep listing?

so yes its bad game and the only reason it was selling was its name not its game play

Haters gonna hate and its ironic that you"re still contradicting yourself based on how reviews are just opinions. Btw a review of 7/10 is just an Average rating for a game while its funy that you're against review like IGN that get paid by the companies and you'll use them as a basis.  Btw its useless to insult people and nothing good comes out of railroading a topic.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 juin 2012 - 09:50 .


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I can wait if the ending is going to be better, but a little comunication would be nice, like

"Hi, sorry were taking so long but we are still working on the ending"

instead thay actually post they'll refuse to discuss the ending as it stands or about the EC

but MP were getting somthing virtually every week

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Disgruntled Shepard wrote...

Since Bioware stuck to their ending and they will only expand on it few people have their hopes up on it doing anything awesome. That makes it hard to understand what is taking them so long to make.

Its not an easy job to create new content especially when we're talking about computer animation.

Disgruntled Shepard wrote... 

At any rate I think Bioware's efforts on EC seam excesive, I understand them sticking to their ending on principle and not seting up the precedent of a meaningfull change, but even them by now understand the ending actually sucked on a technical writing style basis, very little to argue in its favour other than "I liked it" which a few people do. Given that, EC will at most appease a good chunk of those of us who were highly disapointed by the ending but they are not going to make us happy. So why does apparently involve so much work?? I just don't understand it.

The people being excessive would be the ones would sent death threats and personal insults to Bioware about the ending.  Bioware isn't doing the EC based on principal especially when its their decision based on how they did create the whole ME Universe.  Most of the fans did enjoy the ending and you can tell that by how many people that aren't complaining.  You should try to be a game designer or a computer animator because you'll find out how difficult their jobs are.

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gert56nom wrote...

I can wait if the ending is going to be better, but a little comunication would be nice, like

"Hi, sorry were taking so long but we are still working on the ending"

instead thay actually post they'll refuse to discuss the ending as it stands or about the EC

but MP were getting somthing virtually every week

PAX East was in April and paitence should be a virtue.  Btw we're getting a MP pack like every 2 months and you don't need to exaggerate.