Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Blueprotoss wrote...
If you're going to use the correct information then you would know that it was Sony Hong Kong not Sony Asia and the 1st amount of Rebellion information was from that Sony Hong Kong leak.BrotherWarth wrote...
Again, incorrect. The leak came from that user long before the Sony Asia site. The initial thread about the leak here already over 70 pages of discussion before the Sony Asia listing was posted.
No. I think they should have got it right in the first place, seeing as the game and it's predecessors cost a significant amount of my time and money. I would have probably just shrugged my shoulders and agreed to disagree if it had been just me. But 1,000s of people seem to agree. I am especially upset a) because the ending is one of the three worst endings I have ever seen in a video game but especially becauseIntoTheDarkness wrote...
If Bioware is taking time to make EC you should be appreciative of the fact they are putting proper efforts on free product and you should be more patient, too.
much of what was 'promised' for the game simply doesn't exist, either at all or in a manner as previously described.Unless the EC DLC is extraordinarily good, then their best is no longer good enough for me. They had my support, almost unquestioningly. The ending for ME3 lost it. I suspect I will be buying video games from other developers in future.Tali-vas-normandy wrote...
Bioware team are doing there best and I think they deserve our support making a game is not as easy as baking a cake
iakus wrote...
I can wait.
But some news or information telling me what I'm waiting for would be nice
If thats the case then you didn't follow the leak as close as you thought.BrotherWarth wrote...
Dude, I was following the entire leak as it was happening. You are wrong.
Blueprotoss wrote...
The people being excessive would be the ones would sent death threats and personal insults to Bioware about the ending. Bioware isn't doing the EC based on principal especially when its their decision based on how they did create the whole ME Universe. Most of the fans did enjoy the ending and you can tell that by how many people that aren't complaining. You should try to be a game designer or a computer animator because you'll find out how difficult their jobs are.
If thats the case then you must have a small collection of games based on how nothing is perfect and I highly doubt that actually 1,000 of people wihout being in a bandwagon would feel the same. Btw we did get what was promised to us, but you missed the most important thing and that is Bioware decides waht will have to ME not us.ShinsFortress wrote...
No. I think they should have got it right in the first place, seeing as the game and it's predecessors cost a significant amount of my time and money. I would have probably just shrugged my shoulders and agreed to disagree if it had been just me. But 1,000s of people seem to agree. I am especially upset a) because the ending is one of the three worst endings I have ever seen in a video game but especially because
There will always be people looking at the negatives and most of the "fans" won't like the EC based on what they thought of the ending. Btw you shouldn't say that you won't be buying Bioware games based on your attittude and how nothing is perfect.ShinsFortress wrote...
Unless the EC DLC is extraordinarily good, then their best is no longer good enough for me. They had my support, almost unquestioningly. The ending for ME3 lost it. I suspect I will be buying video games from other developers in future.
Yet that isn't a baseless assumption at all especially when most of the real fans aren't overreacting and the majority aren't the people complaining on various forums or Youtube. Yet you're contradicting yourself based on your comment on the majority saying nothing because if that wasn't true then whay are ME3 sales keep on going up with or without ads. Haters gonna hate while its better to move on with anger instaed of dwelling on the past with that same anger.deatharmonic wrote...
That is a horribly baseless assumption. You have no idea how many people like/disliked the game. Just because the majority of people say nothing, it does not mean they like it. For all you know the majority may have thought 'wow that was crap' then moved on, without storming the internet to say what they thought. Essentially my point is that a voiceless mass gives no nothing, no data or facts to make the sort of comment I've bolded.
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet that isn't a baseless assumption at all especially when most of the real fans aren't overreacting and the majority aren't the people complaining on various forums or Youtube. Yet you're contradicting yourself based on your comment on the majority saying nothing because if that wasn't true then whay are ME3 sales keep on going up with or without ads. Haters gonna hate while its better to move on with anger instaed of dwelling on the past with that same anger.deatharmonic wrote...
That is a horribly baseless assumption. You have no idea how many people like/disliked the game. Just because the majority of people say nothing, it does not mean they like it. For all you know the majority may have thought 'wow that was crap' then moved on, without storming the internet to say what they thought. Essentially my point is that a voiceless mass gives no nothing, no data or facts to make the sort of comment I've bolded.
Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 22 juin 2012 - 12:26 .
Chris Priestly wrote...
Once again, it will take as long as it needs to take. Not any more, nor any less. Whether we announce tomorrow, next week or next month, when it is done, it is because it it done.
deatharmonic wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet that isn't a baseless assumption at all especially when most of the real fans aren't overreacting and the majority aren't the people complaining on various forums or Youtube. Yet you're contradicting yourself based on your comment on the majority saying nothing because if that wasn't true then whay are ME3 sales keep on going up with or without ads. Haters gonna hate while its better to move on with anger instaed of dwelling on the past with that same anger.deatharmonic wrote...
That is a horribly baseless assumption. You have no idea how many people like/disliked the game. Just because the majority of people say nothing, it does not mean they like it. For all you know the majority may have thought 'wow that was crap' then moved on, without storming the internet to say what they thought. Essentially my point is that a voiceless mass gives no nothing, no data or facts to make the sort of comment I've bolded.
Of course its baseless, you don't know every individuals opinion about the game do you?
There is no official poll of everyone who bought the game saying X amount enjoyed it is there?
Sales do not equal enjoyment, plenty of people have bought a game and then disliked it. the same goes for ME3, people will continue to buy it and some will not like it.
By the way, saying the majority liked it because of what you've seen on youtube and forums is ridiculous, yes, because youtube and forums are a good place to gain an accurate measure of how many people liked the game.
If you are going to say X amount of people liked the game, make sure you have accurate numbers and facts, not observations from youtube and 'various forums'
Yet you're showing how hypocritcal you are based on your reliance on ad hominems, which means you aren't practicing what you preach.deatharmonic wrote...
Of course its baseless, you don't know every individuals opinion about the game do you?
Yet this is a perfect example of a red herring and/or straw-mann.deatharmonic wrote...
There is no official poll of everyone who bought the game saying X amount enjoyed it is there?
Sales actually do equal enjoyment especially when people used that when ME2 came out and now look what happened with ME3.deatharmonic wrote...
Sales do not equal enjoyment, plenty of people have bought a game and then disliked it. the same goes for ME3, people will continue to buy it and some will not like it.
How is that ridiculous based on how you act as if offical forums have the "correct" results especially when most offical forums are where most of the "fans" come to complain or trash on a game.deatharmonic wrote...
By the way, saying the majority liked it because of what you've seen on youtube and forums is ridiculous, yes, because youtube and forums are a good place to gain an accurate measure of how many people liked the game.
Haters gonna hate especially when there's a difference of beliefs.deatharmonic wrote...
If you are going to say X amount of people liked the game, make sure you have accurate numbers and facts, not observations from youtube and 'various forums'
Blueprotoss wrote...
Its not an easy job to create new content especially when we're talking about computer animation.Disgruntled Shepard wrote...
Since Bioware stuck to their ending and they will only expand on it few people have their hopes up on it doing anything awesome. That makes it hard to understand what is taking them so long to make.
Its not an easy job to create new content especially when we're talking about computer animation.
Blueprotoss wrote...
Most of the fans did enjoy the ending and you can tell that by how many people that aren't complaining. You should try to be a game designer or a computer animator because you'll find out how difficult their jobs are.Disgruntled Shepard wrote...
At any rate I think Bioware's efforts on EC seam excesive, I understand them sticking to their ending on principle and not seting up the precedent of a meaningfull change, but even them by now understand the ending actually sucked on a technical writing style basis, very little to argue in its favour other than "I liked it" which a few people do. Given that, EC will at most appease a good chunk of those of us who were highly disapointed by the ending but they are not going to make us happy. So why does apparently involve so much work?? I just don't understand it.
Modifié par Disgruntled Shepard, 22 juin 2012 - 12:48 .
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet you're showing how hypocritcal you are based on your reliance on ad hominems, which means you aren't practicing what you preach.deatharmonic wrote...
Of course its baseless, you don't know every individuals opinion about the game do you?Yet this is a perfect example of a red herring and/or straw-mann.deatharmonic wrote...
There is no official poll of everyone who bought the game saying X amount enjoyed it is there?Sales actually do equal enjoyment especially when people used that when ME2 came out and now look what happened with ME3.deatharmonic wrote...
Sales do not equal enjoyment, plenty of people have bought a game and then disliked it. the same goes for ME3, people will continue to buy it and some will not like it.How is that ridiculous based on how you act as if offical forums have the "correct" results especially when most offical forums are where most of the "fans" come to complain or trash on a game.deatharmonic wrote...
By the way, saying the majority liked it because of what you've seen on youtube and forums is ridiculous, yes, because youtube and forums are a good place to gain an accurate measure of how many people liked the game.Haters gonna hate especially when there's a difference of beliefs.deatharmonic wrote...
If you are going to say X amount of people liked the game, make sure you have accurate numbers and facts, not observations from youtube and 'various forums'
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet you're showing how hypocritcal you are based on your reliance on ad hominems, which means you aren't practicing what you preach.
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet this is a perfect example of a red herring and/or straw-mann.
Blueprotoss wrote...
Sales actually do equal enjoyment especially when people used that when ME2 came out and now look what happened with ME3.
Blueprotoss wrote...
How is that ridiculous based on how you act as if offical forums have the "correct" results especially when most offical forums are where most of the "fans" come to complain or trash on a game.
Modifié par deatharmonic, 22 juin 2012 - 12:50 .
IntoTheDarkness wrote...
Why do you think DA2 and ME3 felt so incomplete?
If Bioware is taking time to make EC you should be appreciative of the fact they are putting proper efforts on free product and you should be more patient, too.
It's the law that investment and results are in direct proportion. The longer it takes, more complete it is going to be. Why you are even trying to put pressure on Bioware is beyond me. You wanted a better ending, and it will only get better if you exercise some sensible patience on the matter.
Modifié par Bluko, 22 juin 2012 - 01:01 .
The easiest thing is to insult people and the next easiest thing is to be ignorant, which is what you're currently doing. It seems like you aren't willing to hear the facts just like how games aren't designed around a select group of people and everyone has their own tastes. Btw I would to see you run a video game company to find out how hard it is to develope a game with the hours of coding and animating involved.Disgruntled Shepard wrote...
It is not easy I know, but they've taken now close to 3 months and they (aparently) aren't working on gameplay, engine, MP since those are done; they are working solely on game content. Compare what you got with the whole game like 20 missions or more in 18 months work. Just cutscenes and dialogue??? Either they are slacking, surprising us with new gameplay, or devoting much of their resources to something else like DLC or another game like DA3 or whatever they plan next. But 2 months on cutscenes ... hard to believe, what's it gonna be "Gone with the wind" space opera ending version
This is pretty ironic epsecially when you're being very loud and proud with those insults of yours.Disgruntled Shepard wrote...
Look at this thread, just this one, tell me who is the vocal minority HERE...
Yet you're contradicting yourself since you're trying to use a poll as accurrate information while the poll itself will be biased based on the vocal minority like you. If you really hated ME3's ending that badly then you wouldn't be here.Disgruntled Shepard wrote...
And as someone else pointed out, speaking for those who chose or don't bother to speak is unpolite to say the least. The polls on this site show 92% of those who voted didn't like the ending, sure those aren't "scientific" statistics and have an error, but don't go expecting the error will magically bring those figures to 92% loved the ending, that is just not realistic and plain daydreaming. Even Bioware though never publicly, has admited that the ending wasn't good in announcing EC.
Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 juin 2012 - 01:01 .
Its not my fault that I don't resort to insults ir try turn personal beliefs into facts while you're better off moving on instead of dwelling on the past.Flashing Steel wrote...
you make no sense what so ever, no one, not even bioware can say how many people liked the game dude. when you talk about that stuff you need hard statistics to back it up right? otherwise you can't just claim something like that. If you know for sure the majority liked the game where are the numbers to back up that claim? where is the evidence?
Blueprotoss wrote...
Its not my fault that I don't resort to insults ir try turn personal beliefs into facts while you're better off moving on instead of dwelling on the past.Flashing Steel wrote...
you make no sense what so ever, no one, not even bioware can say how many people liked the game dude. when you talk about that stuff you need hard statistics to back it up right? otherwise you can't just claim something like that. If you know for sure the majority liked the game where are the numbers to back up that claim? where is the evidence?
I gave you an answer while it seems like the answer wasn't simple enough based on you using insults.deatharmonic wrote...
I dont think you know what it is i'm saying at all... i asked a simple question really to prove a point, and i'll answer it for you... do you know everyones opinion about the game? No, which means? you cannot say the majority like it, makes sense right?
Yet you're acying as if the majority hated the ending, which the opposite is the truth.deatharmonic wrote...
Once again, simple question... if there is no official poll of everyones opinion who bought the game, how can anyone claim to know what the majority think?
Most people do enjoy the games that they buy and its a good sign when a game continues to sell month after month with increased sales.deatharmonic wrote...
If sales equal enjoyment, does that mean everyone who buys the game will like it?
Yet you think the opposite based on personal beliefs, which is hypocritcal.deatharmonic wrote...
Please quote where i said forums have correct results... Do you seriously think the millions of people who bought the game all have BSN accounts?
There are a number of insults there and it seems like you're trying abuse opinion here. Like I said before if you're really mad at ME3's ending then its time to move on instead of dwelling on the past.Flashing Steel wrote...
Not an insult, merely an observation, i could see your points weren't adressing anything relavent... like i said, if you are going to say: the majority of people liked the game, you need to bring statistics and facts along with that statement
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Blueprotoss wrote...
If thats the case then you didn't follow the leak as close as you thought.BrotherWarth wrote...
Dude, I was following the entire leak as it was happening. You are wrong.
Blueprotoss wrote...
I gave you an answer while it seems like the answer wasn't simple enough based on you using insults.deatharmonic wrote...
I dont think you know what it is i'm saying at all... i asked a simple question really to prove a point, and i'll answer it for you... do you know everyones opinion about the game? No, which means? you cannot say the majority like it, makes sense right?Yet you're acying as if the majority hated the ending, which the opposite is the truth.deatharmonic wrote...
Once again, simple question... if there is no official poll of everyones opinion who bought the game, how can anyone claim to know what the majority think?Most people do enjoy the games that they buy and its a good sign when a game continues to sell month after month with increased sales.deatharmonic wrote...
If sales equal enjoyment, does that mean everyone who buys the game will like it?Yet you think the opposite based on personal beliefs, which is hypocritcal.deatharmonic wrote...
Please quote where i said forums have correct results... Do you seriously think the millions of people who bought the game all have BSN accounts?
Blueprotoss wrote...
There are a number of insults there and it seems like you're trying abuse opinion here. Like I said before if you're really mad at ME3's ending then its time to move on instead of dwelling on the past.Flashing Steel wrote...
Not an insult, merely an observation, i could see your points weren't adressing anything relavent... like i said, if you are going to say: the majority of people liked the game, you need to bring statistics and facts along with that statement
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