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[Azureskies]

 
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Me thinks so,after the poor showing of TOR and then with this day 1 DLC with mass effect 3 (along with the BS ending) EA is in a world of hurt.

[KingJason13]

Ea's problem is that their anti-consumer attitudes are angering many of their (soon to be "former") customers.

Check this out, for example:

http://www.destructo...29894.phtml#ext

There is NO WAY EA will be able to handle f2p without being excessively douchey about it... and if they plan to move ALL of their games in that direction... than forget them.

Modifié par KingJason13, 21 juin 2012 - 04:55 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

KingJason13 wrote...

Ea's problem is that their anti-consumer attitudes are angering many of their (soon to be "former") customers.

Check this out, for example:

http://www.destructo...29894.phtml#ext

There is NO WAY EA will be able to handle f2p without being excessively douchey about it... and if they plan to move ALL of their games in that direction... than forget them.

OMFG!  I get free games and then only have to pay if I want something from the game!?!

*buys 100 EA games*

[Grimez7]

@Rinphoce you can't buy a f2p game

[RedArmyShogun]

Well unlikely it may see a fall off back to the company it was in the 90's. But going away? As long as its the sole maker of major Sports games, it will never go fully broke.

[KingJason13]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

KingJason13 wrote...

Ea's problem is that their anti-consumer attitudes are angering many of their (soon to be "former") customers.

Check this out, for example:

http://www.destructo...29894.phtml#ext

There is NO WAY EA will be able to handle f2p without being excessively douchey about it... and if they plan to move ALL of their games in that direction... than forget them.

OMFG!  I get free games and then only have to pay if I want something from the game!?!

*buys 100 EA games*

You're clearly missing what free-to-play is all about. The "free" gets them onto your hard drive, the proverbial "foot in the door" so to speak, and then you have to PAY to have any chance of being successful at them( which is why they are often referred to as "pay-to-win" games). It becomes very easy to pay far in excess of the $60 you would have paid for a regular game outright.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

How is EA doomed? Let me guess....Endings again???? >_>

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

KingJason13 wrote...


You're clearly missing what free-to-play is all about. The "free" gets them onto your hard drive, the proverbial "foot in the door" so to speak, and then you have to PAY to have any chance of being successful at them( which is why they are often referred to as "pay-to-win" games). It becomes very easy to pay far in excess of the $60 you would have paid for a regular game outright.

Buying is a choice.  Not buying is a choice.

Me?  I get a free AAA game and I play it until I'm done with it.  I really like it?  I drop $20 on in game goodies.  I really, really like it?  I drop $40 on in game goodies.   I hate the game?  No money spent on it.

Tell me again how what EA is doing is bad?

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Grimez7 wrote...

@Rinphoce you can't buy a f2p game

^_^  I know.  I was hyperbolizing.

[Mylia Stenetch]

Azureskies wrote...

 
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Me thinks so,after the poor showing of TOR and then with this day 1 DLC with mass effect 3 (along with the BS ending) EA is in a world of hurt.

ME3 was a drop in the bucket for EA which did not hamper them, TOR might of made a small dent in their costs. Still looking back over the past year+ they have had financial troubles and one of it comes from their less than appealing ways with customers. This is nothing new, they are not doomed, as long as they have massive control over Sports (which might start to wien), they can fund other other companies and make profits of them to pad it even more.

[Azureskies]

Does no one check out the link? Just seems like people post random crap about EA either being fine or just having an off year without having any idea of what material I am basing my opinion on.


In my OP i was offering my opinion as to why this trend is going to continue because of things like ME3s bad ending/day1DLC/poor fan response ect... That said,these graphs show that the downturn happening before ME3 was out.

[AshedMan]

We can only hope that EA somehow learns a lesson from all of this and instead of fleecing their customers with every scheme they can imagine, they start to support their customers, care for them, and deliver quality products without trying to steal every last cent we have or force us into DD programs we would rather not use.

I don't see that happening. And if it doesn't then EA deserves to fail.

[termokanden]

I want to be able to have a game and then just enjoy it without having to worry about spending money. I would much prefer to buy a game and then have ALL of it, rather than having a free game that constantly advertises what you could have if you spent just a little bit more. These kinds of microtransactions in F2P (and other games for that matter) suck the fun out of everything and it just makes me sick to think that this is what the future holds and that some people actually want it. I really, really don't get it.

It's like advertisements. I'd rather pay to watch something without advertisements than watch something free that's full of them. For me it's about quality time. I don't have all the time in the world to play games and watch movies anymore, and I certainly don't have time for advertisements for things I would never buy anyway and "batteries not included" video games.

Modifié par termokanden, 21 juin 2012 - 07:29 .

[Ninja Stan]

Companies generally have a broader view of things and plan their strategies accordingly. The individual consumer/gamer is extremely short-sighted, allowing each news article and discussion to inform their predictions about the company's future. If an article is negative, then an individual will tend to see the company's eventual failure as guaranteed. If an article is positive, the individual will tend to see the company's future success as assured.

Regardless of one's personal opinion about a company, it will not fail or succeed based on a single article or analysis, nor can one will a company into eventual success or failure.

[Azureskies]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Companies generally have a broader view of things and plan their strategies accordingly. The individual consumer/gamer is extremely short-sighted, allowing each news article and discussion to inform their predictions about the company's future. If an article is negative, then an individual will tend to see the company's eventual failure as guaranteed. If an article is positive, the individual will tend to see the company's future success as assured.

Regardless of one's personal opinion about a company, it will not fail or succeed based on a single article or analysis, nor can one will a company into eventual success or failure.

I understand that,yet at the same time couldnt you say that in a years time to trend that far down that there will even be time to recover? If there is what do you think it will take to achive it?

That said there are a lot of people not happy over what has been going on with EA,I believe it is finally showing.

I would love to see EA do well,but they have to act like they WANT to do well. They might first start off by listening to more of what the players of the games want or would like to see,and less of "people will pay for it just because of the IP".(not talking about just ME either) Something I have not personally seen from them in quite a while.

Modifié par Azureskies, 21 juin 2012 - 08:17 .

[TheBlackBaron]

If that's what EA thinks is the future, fine. I'll suck what fun I can out of their games and move on when I can't progress any further without giving them money. But Peter Moore is an idiot if he thinks the thing that built the industry - the $60 upfront AAA game - is going away or is going to become scarce. Even arguably worse companies like Activision and Ubisoft seem to be getting along just fine without trying to insert micortransactions into everything. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 21 juin 2012 - 08:59 .

[ObserverStatus]

Duh, of course they are.

[AshedMan]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Companies generally have a broader view of things and plan their strategies accordingly. The individual consumer/gamer is extremely short-sighted, allowing each news article and discussion to inform their predictions about the company's future. If an article is negative, then an individual will tend to see the company's eventual failure as guaranteed. If an article is positive, the individual will tend to see the company's future success as assured.

Regardless of one's personal opinion about a company, it will not fail or succeed based on a single article or analysis, nor can one will a company into eventual success or failure.

Short-sightedness is an apt description of EA and their money schemes over the last couple years.  They certainly aren't building bridges with their once loyal customers.  It's all about the next money scheme and how to make a quick buck by fleecing those who buy their current products.  

[saMoorai]

bobobo878 wrote...

Duh, of course they are.

Oh god, I had no idea! Now I have to burn my Star Wars dvds in order to escape my future of eternal Hellfire! D:

[Neo DrKefka]

The failure is simple to see. No longer do game companies treat their customers as a customer.... instead they treat them like the word Bioware staff now uses very often, "fans"

We are not fans, we are customers. The moment you blur that very fine line you go in a direction like Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 were the customers really do not like it but yeah we are fans are we are going to take it anyway? Well that is being proven incorrect.

Star Wars The Old Republic is another example the majority want something other than features focused on a 'Hardcore Minority' yet Bioware keeps on bringing things on like Guild Summits and refuses to listen to the majority of the population. I think it's very clear why EA laid off and fired so many Bioware employees as of late because they lost sight of who they are marketing to.

They've added a dungeon finder coming in the next patch but that still doesn't help since it's not cross servers and help with elite quests.

[Addai]

They're so busy counting out their microtransaction dollars that they forgot you first have to make games that people want to play. And someone with a shred of sense in their marketing department needs to tell the suits to STFU. Every time they open their mouths, the stock and their reputation sinks further in the toilet.

I hate their business model passionately so it would all be schadenfreudelicious except the livelihoods of some talented people are on the line, and I do feel for them.

Modifié par Addai67, 21 juin 2012 - 09:56 .