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[KDD-0063]

Morroian wrote...

IReuven wrote...

I hope it will be doomed at some point.

 
Why? Why not instead hope that the negative feedback on ME3 and DA2 will force them to  make improvements. And whys tick around here if you feel that way, unless you like the community in which case it will vanish if EA goes under not that teh community is that great any more which is a pity.

IReuven wrote...

Well to say at least, there is plenty of reason to dislike EA. Also I find funny a fact that EA seems more evil than Activision, when Activision apparently doesn't care about it's image mostly beacuse they can stick lable "At least we are not EA" under company name and BE JUST FINE.

Evil? Please get some perspective about what is a GAME company. As for Activision what they are doing on Diablo 3 is worse towards consumers than anything EA has done. 

Of course I hope EA would be doomed. If Westwood and Bioware are lost causes, I certainly hope there are no more studios be bought by EA and be destroyed. Simple.

[The Jackal]

I have said this before yet very quickly I will repeat. I liked the Orgins formula. I do not know why they decided to "improve upon that" with combat. Some suggested they wanted to reach a larger fan base. While ignoring their core fan base the people who made the game a great success. Based on the sales reports, review's and personal story.

I discovered that Orgins was far superior then DA2. As long as people keep buying their games even though I disagree with the company on a few basic things. I will coutinue playing unless their is a strong pattern.(I.E. D3 turns out to need more of this and that) then I will seriously think their is a problem.

Right now EA only one I know besides Witcher that can do these interactive choice based storylines. I first heard of Bioware through playing orgins after that I became hooked. I cannot speak for all the other games they did. I just kinda stuck with the company after that game.

[Lord Phoebus]

JasonRocker wrote...
Right now EA only one I know besides Witcher that can do these interactive choice based storylines. I first heard of Bioware through playing orgins after that I became hooked. I cannot speak for all the other games they did. I just kinda stuck with the company after that game.

There's also Obsidian and I thought Square Enix did a pretty good job with Deus Ex: HR.  Although they don't have branching stories, games like Arkham City and the Assassin's Creeds have also been bringing their writing and presentation up to BioWare standards.  It's not like what BioWare is doing is unique, and I don't think they're the best at it anymore.

That said I don't want to see BioWare or EA fail, but if they continue on their current path they probably will.  I don't think that EA's business decisions have all been bad; the f2p model is a pretty smart model to chase.  Video game consumers are highly impulse driven and emotional with their purchase choices and it makes sense from an economic standpoint to exploit them as much as possible (It may be morally reprehensible, but morality is an anathema to capitalism). 

Origin seems to have been a poorly timed decision with other digital distributors already entrenched in the market,  however it maybe a necessary move as the market becomes increasingly digital (It may be that a publisher won't be able to survive without its own digital store in the future)  However they shouldn't have made a move against Steam until they had a foothold, that was just stupid. 

I think the larger problems are on the content side, they just aren't producing content that's very good and that probably comes down to management of the studios and perhaps the guidance that they're being given.  Part of this is due to how they're handling DLC, which is leading to games being shipped incomplete with parts being reserved to be sold as DLC.  Part of it is that they seem to be risk averse so they try to copy what is selling well, but the end result ends up looking like an imitation instead of something new.  Part of it might just be poor market research.  That said I think they need to put some more resources into developing fresh IPs and innovative content or they are going to continue to lose market share against their competition.

 

[Morroian]

Lord Phoebus wrote...

There's also Obsidian and I thought Square Enix did a pretty good job with Deus Ex: HR.  

What interactive choices did Deus Ex HR have?

[Lord Phoebus]

Morroian wrote...

Lord Phoebus wrote...

There's also Obsidian and I thought Square Enix did a pretty good job with Deus Ex: HR.  

What interactive choices did Deus Ex HR have?

The ending, saving the terrorist at the beginning versus shooting him, some of the side quests, etc.  About the same as most Bioware games when it comes down to it.

[Morroian]

James_Raynor wrote...

Considering that they just blocked off all ME3 discussion to people who don't have a registered copy of ME3 it seems they're also trying to silence dissent.

So everyone that bought ME3 loved the game? All the objections to it have come from people who haven't bought it? 

[Gatt9]

Morroian wrote...

James_Raynor wrote...

Considering that they just blocked off all ME3 discussion to people who don't have a registered copy of ME3 it seems they're also trying to silence dissent.

So everyone that bought ME3 loved the game? All the objections to it have come from people who haven't bought it? 

Which would be fine except their board software is bugridden.  If you change your email address,  like I have,  you can't register games.  Bioware and EA have become truely pathetic.  I'll enjoy watching EA fold next year enourmously.

[Neo DrKefka]

JasonRocker wrote...

Am I the only one that thing's it's strange that a Mod or even a Rep of Bioware would so openly engage in verbal debate against a poster on here. I do not recall anyone else that is even a mod or on the Bioware team let alone one that had worked so closely with them on projects openly debating in a heated passion things that really don't matter one way or another.

Just to clarify. No I am not bashing. I just find it odd. I really cannot be the only one. It's like the Owner of Blizzard debating back and forth with a poster on their forums. Can you imagine if one of the people on Blizzard team left, and came back and started open debates about "small things" with other posters.

It does not exactly shine a positive light on the company. Look at all the mods we have in this section 23 in total and I never seen anyone expect Chris say more then one sentence let alone all this. It just get's kinda silly after a while.

He was let go he is no longer employed by Bioware. 

[Elhanan]

Neo DrKefka wrote...

JasonRocker wrote...

Am I the only one that thing's it's strange that a Mod or even a Rep of Bioware would so openly engage in verbal debate against a poster on here. I do not recall anyone else that is even a mod or on the Bioware team let alone one that had worked so closely with them on projects openly debating in a heated passion things that really don't matter one way or another.

Just to clarify. No I am not bashing. I just find it odd. I really cannot be the only one. It's like the Owner of Blizzard debating back and forth with a poster on their forums. Can you imagine if one of the people on Blizzard team left, and came back and started open debates about "small things" with other posters.

It does not exactly shine a positive light on the company. Look at all the mods we have in this section 23 in total and I never seen anyone expect Chris say more then one sentence let alone all this. It just get's kinda silly after a while.

He was let go he is no longer employed by Bioware. 

Not exactly accurate:

http://worstninjaever.blogspot.com/

[GodWood]

Seboist wrote...
We can only hope they're doomed.

QFT

[The Jackal]

Elhanan wrote...

Neo DrKefka wrote...

JasonRocker wrote...

Am I the only one that thing's it's strange that a Mod or even a Rep of Bioware would so openly engage in verbal debate against a poster on here. I do not recall anyone else that is even a mod or on the Bioware team let alone one that had worked so closely with them on projects openly debating in a heated passion things that really don't matter one way or another.

Just to clarify. No I am not bashing. I just find it odd. I really cannot be the only one. It's like the Owner of Blizzard debating back and forth with a poster on their forums. Can you imagine if one of the people on Blizzard team left, and came back and started open debates about "small things" with other posters.

It does not exactly shine a positive light on the company. Look at all the mods we have in this section 23 in total and I never seen anyone expect Chris say more then one sentence let alone all this. It just get's kinda silly after a while.

He was let go he is no longer employed by Bioware. 

Not exactly accurate:

http://worstninjaever.blogspot.com/

He does not detail if he was let go or if he resigned on his own. He hints early on in the blog that he was devastated at the first couple of meetings. That could indicate that EA/Bioware saw on their own that he was slipping and pulled him into a meeting then later on it was "Mututally decided" on all partys that he resign.

Remember Khmor that guy who was traded from the LA Lakers to the Spurs. He played very badly in his comeback. So badly in fact that company decided to list him on the "inactive" list then later let him go. He came out with a statment saying "mututally decided best interest in all partys that he leave the company"

No one ever plans to be fired or resign. Given that he is still a mod here without pay. Could strongly note that he was fired. It's up for debate because to save face the person who left the company will not openly admit they we're left go and it's not like we can ask the mangement team but very very rarely does a person ever contact the admin of their company and decide to not re-sign and then stay on their fourm. 

In my personal point of view saying mututally decided to part ways is a PR way of saving from what really happended. If I am incorrect then please detail what exactly happended by all means. Why I'm happy he decided to stay on the company. I'm curiously wondering why he couldn't come back as a regular poster rather then a mod and if it will ever become socially arkward for the staff at any point. 

Modifié par JasonRocker, 24 juin 2012 - 04:38 .

[Elhanan]

Stan clearly states "... I left EA Bioware..." near the top of his Blog, and I have little reason to doubt his sincerity considering he still serves as a Moderator. If he had been let go as some suggest, such privilege might well have been refused.

And I do not follow basketball or baseball much at all due to drug and other criminal reveals.

As for some of the posters here, they should hurry before they miss their bus; monitors are waiting.

[The Jackal]

Elhanan wrote...

Stan clearly states "... I left EA Bioware..." near the top of his Blog, and I have little reason to doubt his sincerity considering he still serves as a Moderator. If he had been let go as some suggest, such privilege might well have been refused.

And I do not follow basketball or baseball much at all due to drug and other criminal reveals.

As for some of the posters here, they should hurry before they miss their bus; monitors are waiting.

He also states to be fair that he was pulled into a group of meetings. That he was happy but did not want to admit it to himself. You believe that without warning he did admit it to himself and left the company? He hints in the blog that other people could see it but not him.

He also says "I thought I would be working there till I was an old man." and he uses the words "devestated" to describe the first couple of meetings. You honestly think that's the way a person describes that they left the company on their own free will.

It sounds more like other people noticed what was going on. They pulled him into a meeting to discuss it, then somehow it was a mystery but he decided that he was mututally benfiting to leave the company. He goes on to describes projects he thought he was going to work on never came through.

Maybe it's just my point of view but the way he describes it, isn't as someone who was unhappy and quit on their own free will. It sounds like they noticed it and then everyone decide it would be best if he left the company. That's the problem with the smoke and mirrors. No one truely knows what happended.

We are supposed to depend on the person that was either fired or left the company or mututally decided with everyone to leave as best way to understand it?

Modifié par JasonRocker, 24 juin 2012 - 05:51 .

[Elhanan]

Speculate all you will, but the overall point is that Stan no longer works there, so conjecture on his influence for purposes of this thread are unfounded.