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[Salaya]

 I know that beauty is a personal and very perspective-based trait, but given a lax consensus on what it could mean, also taking exuberancy as a measure...

Do you want future romanceable characters to be perfectly beatiful and exuberant? Or do you prefer that characters, more easily considered as "ugly" in that given consensus, become also romanceable?

To ilustrate my question; I would have really enjoyed the chance to romance Aveline as well as Isabela. Or Varric as well as Anders.

EDIT::: As I already said, please, do not pay attention to the example; just the question. I know, everyone has personal tastes. Ok then, answer the question assuming those tastes, as I have done. 

So, what do you think?

You can also voice your opinion in this poll. Thanks!

social.bioware.com/1335977/polls/35546/

Modifié par Salaya, 21 juin 2012 - 05:33 .

[berelinde]

Wow, talk about "Hollywood ugly"! I'd say that Aveline and Isabela are equally beautiful, just in different ways. I am also unsure which of the males is supposed to be the homely one, since they both look pretty darned good to me.

[AkiKishi]

It's going to depend on the person. The only two I'd give a second glance in DA2 are Bethany and default FemHawke, who loses points for ripping off Squals scar.

[Blue Gloves]

I agree w/ berelinde- also- How dare you!!! Varric is forever the unrequited, smexy dwarf love for my Hawke(s)!


edit- that is meant to be teasing- couldn't tell if my internet smiley made it clear enough- although I really DO love Varric...

Modifié par Blue Gloves, 21 juin 2012 - 05:31 .

[Arthur Cousland]

It's a shame that the two companions that I liked the most (Aveline, Varric) weren't romanceable, but the crazies were.

I wouldn't mind seeing a variety of LIs in DA3.

[PsychoBlonde]

Salaya wrote...

Do you want future romanceable characters to be perfectly beatiful and exuberant? Or do you prefer that characters, more easily considered as "ugly" in that given consensus, become also romanceable?

I would have liked to have Sten and Varric as LI options, and neither of them are particularly "pretty".

For me, it's more about the personality/voice of the character than their looks.  Zevran, Alistair, and Anders didn't appeal to me.  Fenris was okay.  (I don't include the ladies because they don't appeal to me, period, I did give Leliana a try but I was happier with No Romance in Origins than any of the options.)

[BubbleDncr]

I think I would prefer it if my love interest was good-looking.

That said, if they only put on LI in the game, and he was butt-ugly, I would probably still romance him, just cos I like me my romance.

Now, if I had a good-looking and a butt-ugly option, I would probably focus on the good-looking guy first, but I can't predict where it would end up. After all, in DA2, I had intended to romance Fenris, but somehow ended up sleeping with Anders and spending the rest of my days with him.

[LadyMarisa]

I personally wouldn't care if I (the player) found NPCs to be "ugly".
In my ideal gaming world, every NPC has the potential to be romanced because who knows what my character will prefer. I usually base it off the interactions. Even if I considered an NPC to be fugly but the dialogue and interaction with my character was well written and engaging, You can bet I'm jumping on that romance bandwagon.

[wsandista]

I think NPC's should be as imperfect as possible. Honestly though I am more concerned with their character than by their looks.

[Dakota Strider]

Aveline looked fine by me, and would have preferred her over any of the other choices. And I really did not conisder Merrill to be that great looking either, perhaps a bit too young looking, and just a bit too anime looking too.

[LolaLei]

Varric was a fine specimen of a Dwarf! In truth, I would have taken him over any of the male romance options available in DA2.

It wouldn't matter if the romanceable companion looked like Adonis, if he/she was a complete jerk or lacked personality then I wouldn't be inclined to romance them (unless it was for an achievement or something.)

[Elvis_Mazur]

I can only accept a very specific type of romanceable male character. I can't stand Anders look (too old, beard doesn't match hair color, weird facial structure, long hair) or Fenris' (white hair lol, those lyrium markings all over his body, not the hair type I can accept).

If there was at least someone more like Alistar from DA:O...

As a gay, I couldn't romance any of the options given to my first Hawke. Although my third Champion romanced Fenris because I was curious and because of the irony (he was a mage and sided with templars ).

So, yeah, I expect the next DA game to have at least one male and gay (at least, can be bi though. I wouldn't mind it) romanceable character that satisfies my hero. Othewise, another romanceless PC. <_<

Modifié par PetrySilva, 22 juin 2012 - 02:55 .

[deuce985]

I don't really care if they're "ugly" or "beautiful" when it comes to physical attraction.

I just want them to be beautiful on the inside. If I connect with their personality, that's what I want. Personality is the most important thing over anything else. Anybody can get some cute bimbo.

If I had it my way, I'd probably do away with all the Hollywood sex appeal in these games and go to a more realistic approach. Aveline was a nice start. We need more warrior women who look like her and are a little more muscular. It simply does not make sense my female warrior Hawke runs around rivaling the best Victoria's Secret model in full plate and weighs a paltry 100lbs.

I mean, is it so hard to make beautiful women at least who are a little more muscular? Kinda like a amazon woman? Assuming they wouldn't want to get rid of that Hollywood beauty. You could merge them together. Make her look like a actual warrior woman and have physical beauty.

Imperfections make them more relatable. A character that is more relatable is more enticing to me...

Modifié par deuce985, 22 juin 2012 - 03:03 .

[LolaLei]

PetrySilva wrote...

I can only accept a very specific type of romanceable male character. I can't stand Anders look (too old, beard doesn't match hair color, weird facial structure, long hair) or Fenris' (white hair lol, those lyrium markings all over his body, not the hair type I can accept).

If there was at least someone more like Alistar from DA:O...

As a gay, I couldn't romance any of the options given to my first Hawke. Although my third Champion romanced Fenris because I was curious and because of the irony (he was a mage and sided with templars ).

So, yeah, I expect the next DA game to have at least one male and gay (at least, can be bi though. I wouldn't mind it) romanceable character that satisfies my hero. Othewise, another romanceless PC. <_<

PetrySilva, I have a present for you:



How about that as a romance option!

[Reznore57]

Depends on ugly, I don't think Aveline or Varric are ugly at all...
Now , look at Garrus romance in Me , he's an alien ,not really fit in beauty standard but it works.But turians have something hot about them.



But for a fine specimen of  not really pretty like above , it would be very hard.It would require crazy good writing or a miracle for me to want that kind of romance. And no lights on or maybe a blind pc.
But Beauty and the Beast worked so why not?

[deuce985]

Reznore57 wrote...

Depends on ugly, I don't think Aveline or Varric are ugly at all...
Now , look at Garrus romance in Me , he's an alien ,not really fit in beauty standard but it works.But turians have something hot about them.



But for a fine specimen of  not really pretty like above , it would be very hard.It would require crazy good writing or a miracle for me to want that kind of romance. And no lights on or maybe a blind pc.
But Beauty and the Beast worked so why not?

I could just imagine a romance scene with him and a "hey you guys" line following right behind it.

[AndrahilAdrian]

deuce985 wrote...

I don't really care if they're "ugly" or "beautiful" when it comes to physical attraction.

I just want them to be beautiful on the inside. If I connect with their personality, that's what I want. Personality is the most important thing over anything else. Anybody can get some cute bimbo.

One would think you were talking about your real relationships, not the fictional ones Bioware creates for their characters. 

In DA, I think realism should trump beauty. Its fine to have attractive characters, but they shouldn't have perfect teeth (DAO was great about that, DA 2 pandered to the "OMG Y my beautiful AListars teeth so messed up" demographic), anachronistic hairstyles (Alistair's impeccably gelled hair comes to mind), or unlikely body shapes. In both games, all the men had the kind of muscle definition only possible with a training regimin and modern exercise equipment. Naturally the more combat-oriented ones should be physically fit, but they shouldn't look like bodybuilders. The scrawny women were far more realistic, with the exceptions of Wynne, who had the body of a much younger woman (there really should be more than one body model per gener) and Isabela, who's bust didn't match her frame, and would have impeded her fighting ability.

OP, for my money Aveline and Varric were perfectly fine looking collections of pixels. I don't know what standards of beauty you're judging them by, but please don't perscribe it to the rest of us.

[Salaya]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

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OP, for my money Aveline and Varric were perfectly fine looking collections of pixels. I don't know what standards of beauty you're judging them by, but please don't perscribe it to the rest of us.

I dind't prescribe anything, I just voiced my opinion given the the question. As I have said, it's just my personal taste, answering my own question to the community. I'm perfectly aware that many people finds Aveline, Varric or whatever character I don't like, attractive. 

My goal with the thread was the question about beauty and exuberancy. But I don't care what categories, standards or any other thing you use to make your ideal of those two concepts. I just said that about Aveline as an example of mine; nothing more, nothing less. 

I know my english isn't exactly perfect, but sometimes I wonder if people even read posts at all.

[AstraDrakkar]

Well, i don't see myself being able to romance an ugly game companion, so i suppose beauty is a must for me.

[DarkDragon777]

Ugly people can be attractive you know.

[Teddie Sage]

I want to romance a bear-type guy, m/m relationship. Rawr ~

[deuce985]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

I don't really care if they're "ugly" or "beautiful" when it comes to physical attraction.

I just want them to be beautiful on the inside. If I connect with their personality, that's what I want. Personality is the most important thing over anything else. Anybody can get some cute bimbo.

One would think you were talking about your real relationships, not the fictional ones Bioware creates for their characters. 

In DA, I think realism should trump beauty. Its fine to have attractive characters, but they shouldn't have perfect teeth (DAO was great about that, DA 2 pandered to the "OMG Y my beautiful AListars teeth so messed up" demographic), anachronistic hairstyles (Alistair's impeccably gelled hair comes to mind), or unlikely body shapes. In both games, all the men had the kind of muscle definition only possible with a training regimin and modern exercise equipment. Naturally the more combat-oriented ones should be physically fit, but they shouldn't look like bodybuilders. The scrawny women were far more realistic, with the exceptions of Wynne, who had the body of a much younger woman (there really should be more than one body model per gener) and Isabela, who's bust didn't match her frame, and would have impeded her fighting ability.

OP, for my money Aveline and Varric were perfectly fine looking collections of pixels. I don't know what standards of beauty you're judging them by, but please don't perscribe it to the rest of us.

Maybe. I tend to play Bioware games how I act in rl. My characters usually reflect that. So I guess that makes sense.