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[Tommy 9un]

Zjarcal wrote...

Tommy 9un wrote...

...they do have strengths sure but have major weakness to like pretty much zero shields. 

Could somebody please explain me what the hell is this low Infiltrator shield thing some people are talking about? Human Infiltrators have the same base shields as their other human counter parts, same for Quarian and Salarian. Geth only lose them with Hunter Mode (which is not Infiltrator exclusive). Infiltrators will only have low shields if you skip Fitness, just like it would happen with ANY other class. This is not a weakness of the class at all.

Seriously, where the hell do people get the idea that Infiltrators will always have low shields?

I play quarian male and female and I swear it's the only class I have ever been shot down by a trooper class enemy, not to mention how many times I been 1 or 2 hit by a bloody Geth turret. I've played as every other class and it's never happened with them. 

I am acctually pretty narked by the whole thing about balance the infiltrators because they have so many weaknesses already, try taking a shot with one while someone ela on your team keeps spamming the biotic powers, it's like trying to shoot in a earthquake bloody sight flying everywhere! The only thing that truly needs attention is the bloody server issues and the krysae rifle (and yes I do use it) it's way to light, compare it to a valiant or many other snipers and it's just insanely light 

[Tommy 9un]

cory257383 wrote...

Needless to say I am pissed off you don't like the class dont play it, you don't like the gun don't use. Infiltrator is my favorite class not cause it is OP but because you are the keystone of the team, most of the tasks fall on you.

Make sure the Fagnan doesn't taketh away.

Signed: x43VRFALLEN819x

This man has it right! If you don't like it then find another lobby or create your own and invite like minded people .

[Bergioynn]

Signed.

[Dokteur Kill]

I agree. The problem isn't really tactical cloak, it's that tactical cloak, adrenaline rush and marksman are pretty much the best way to deal gold-level damage with weapons.

What I'd like to see is increased survivability for some of the classes that don't have powers that increase weapon damage, and/or increased weapon carrying capacity for the non-infiltrator classes (at least the ones that rely partially on weapons, such as engineers and sentinels). Right now, they fall between two chairs. They can't carry heavy enough weapons to deal significant weapon damage, and their powers generally don't deal gold-level damage.

[zerozen00]

Signed, of course. I feel the urge to strange some nerfers...

/zen

[corporal doody]

Tommy 9un wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Needless to say I am pissed off you don't like the class dont play it, you don't like the gun don't use. Infiltrator is my favorite class not cause it is OP but because you are the keystone of the team, most of the tasks fall on you.

Make sure the Fagnan doesn't taketh away.

Signed: x43VRFALLEN819x

This man has it right! If you don't like it then find another lobby or create your own and invite like minded people .

how bout...NERF TC....but leave everything else about infiltrator?!!!  or is the Infiltrator ONLY AS GOOD AS TC?

[stysiaq]

Tommy 9un wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Tommy 9un wrote...

...they do have strengths sure but have major weakness to like pretty much zero shields. 

Could somebody please explain me what the hell is this low Infiltrator shield thing some people are talking about? Human Infiltrators have the same base shields as their other human counter parts, same for Quarian and Salarian. Geth only lose them with Hunter Mode (which is not Infiltrator exclusive). Infiltrators will only have low shields if you skip Fitness, just like it would happen with ANY other class. This is not a weakness of the class at all.

Seriously, where the hell do people get the idea that Infiltrators will always have low shields?

I play quarian male and female and I swear it's the only class I have ever been shot down by a trooper class enemy, not to mention how many times I been 1 or 2 hit by a bloody Geth turret. I've played as every other class and it's never happened with them. 

I am acctually pretty narked by the whole thing about balance the infiltrators because they have so many weaknesses already,* try taking a shot with one while someone ela on your team keeps spamming the biotic powers **, it's like trying to shoot in a earthquake bloody sight flying everywhere! The only thing that truly needs attention is the bloody server issues and the krysae rifle (and yes I do use it***) it's way to light, compare it to a valiant or many other snipers and it's just insanely light****

You surely played a lot of Drell, didn't you?
You're making things up, the fact that you got down as Quarian Female/Male Infiltrator doesn't make their shields/health any lower.

* Mhahahhahahahahahahahahahaa, check my sig, would you?
** try setting off a BE when there are 2 Krysae Infiltrators in the game
*** that's right, you're one! I don't see my games pretty much bleached out of fun because of Krysae Engineers or Krysae Sentinels, but because of Krysae Infiltrators.
**** infiltrators don't give a s*** about the cooldown, why? Oh, yes, Tactical Cloak.

Also, you claim that you have problem with AIM and you are using a Krysae?
Hilarious.

Modifié par stysiaq, 22 juin 2012 - 09:49 .

[xtorma]

Lady_Kasumi3031 wrote...

Signed, sealed, and delivered. Fix the other classes and give them more of a fighting chance to contribute towards the matches, especially on Gold. LEAVE THE TC ALONE!!!

they explained this. it would take them too long to balance around cloak. It is much easier for them to just lower the effectivness of one power than it is to raise many more, and adjust mobs to compensate.

In a nut shell, they don't wan't to put in the work it would take to save the power as is.

[cory257383]

Don't give up friends keep this alive

[Typhoniel]

/signed

Leave Tactical Cloak alone!

[LULZferBAKON]

I like how I never see one logical argument as to why Tactical Cloak shouldn't be nerfed. It's pretty much just people not wanting their class to get nerfed.

Let me give you guys a little information, I use the Geth Infiltrator with Krysae on my FBWGG runs. I use it because it is the most efficient thing at my disposal. If it is nerfed, it will hurt me as well. But I am sensible enough to understand just how ridiculous it is.

The only infiltrator I seriously play outside of farm runs is the Male Quarian Infiltrator, he has 4 points in tactical cloak so I have max duration. I never use the damage bonus with him, and with the Saber or Claymore, I still do pretty good damage.

Also, if the damage is nerfed, you are still fully capable of reviving and doing objectives.

[cory257383]

Of coarse no one wants their class needed. But most of the complaining is coming from ppl who don't play the class much. Yes TC is strong who cares

[cg8900]

signed

[Core_Commander]

I consulted my Battlemaster about it, and he advised you folk to, and I quote:

"Stop whining"

Should a nerf come, it's because of the internal gaming data gathered from the majority of ME3-playing population, not any "vocal minority" within the forum users (who already are a minority within the playerbase). That means it's not our, the "easymode-haters" fault. It's you.

And you. And YOU, human. And you.

You brought this upon yourselves.


And yeah, I played an infiltrator before she got the tactical cloak, I think people who just like the class will be fine.

Modifié par Core_Commander, 22 juin 2012 - 10:41 .

[Kronner]

I'd actually be for a Cloak tweak/nerf. I just hope BioWare does not make either cosmetic change that changes nothing, only upsets players because "5% is too much" or a huge nerf that makes Cloak pretty ****e. If they do it smartly, I've got no problem.

[LULZferBAKON]

cory257383 wrote...

Of coarse no one wants their class needed. But most of the complaining is coming from ppl who don't play the class much. Yes TC is strong who cares

Balance, man, do you understand it?

[V_Davion]

signed

[corporal doody]

what if they got rid of weapon damage bonuses in TC but kept everything else? people gonna be upset...but they gonna say TC aint ALL about killing stuff but doing the jack of all trade thing...but they gonna make more OFFICIAL petitions that aint official but claim they are cuz official is in all CAPS.


/question mark


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[Snowblind119]

deadpixel92 wrote...

 If TC gets nerfed by more than 10% i shall not revive any teammates... with any class muahahaha. In all seriousness keep going, i have a feeling BSN is going to amuse me a lot this week. 

I'll one-up you on that one and say if TC is Nerfed,
1. No Revives
2. No Objectives (but will prance around it)
3. No Support whatsoever

Take TC away and you got a smart soldier class:?

[Ramsutin]

/signed
Fix bugs first!

[Gornok]

/signed

fix something which is broken... like te numerous glitches your team supposedly fixed

[Core_Commander]

Snowblind119 wrote...

I'll one-up you on that one and say if TC is Nerfed,
1. No Revives
2. No Objectives (but will prance around it)
3. No Support whatsoever

Take TC away and you got a smart soldier class:?

Ooooh blackmail. That's just too bad, Mr. Prima Donna. But that would make you simply  akin to "yet another terrible player stumbling his way into Gold", only more emo - well within the usual calculations. I think the playerbase will manage.

[Denali21]

signed, TC didn't all of a sudden get stronger its been like that the whole time why all the whining now. how about make other classes be able to hold their own with the Infiltrator. Or better yet fix some of the things that are broken.

[COLZ7R]

@ Tommy 9un
that is the right attitude mate just a shame the self appointed "fun police" dont agree and have to tell everyone how they need to play

[LULZferBAKON]

Snowblind119 wrote...

deadpixel92 wrote...

 If TC gets nerfed by more than 10% i shall not revive any teammates... with any class muahahaha. In all seriousness keep going, i have a feeling BSN is going to amuse me a lot this week. 

I'll one-up you on that one and say if TC is Nerfed,
1. No Revives
2. No Objectives (but will prance around it)
3. No Support whatsoever

Take TC away and you got a smart soldier class:?

1. Don't worry guys, Vanguards got this!
2. Don't worry guys, good players got this!
3. Don't worry guys, we'll just kick them for leeching!