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[UEG Donkey]

I'm building a drell adept that puts no points in pull, right now I'm running the Carnifex IX and GPSMG IX at over 200% Cool down but I honestly don't need it.  What would you think if I traded the Carnifex for the Claymore?  Is it a crazy idea?  I'd be around 60% on my cool down but remember cluster granades don't use a cool down.  As for why I chose the Claymore, there aren't any other shotguns I enjoy using other than this or the disciple and the only reason I use that is to keep cool downs low. 

So what do you guys think?

Modifié par UEG Donkey, 22 juin 2012 - 02:52 .

[lpconfig]

Claymore works pretty well. I personally use the talon because I can get head shots reliably when things are staggered from reave. Talon will one shot most bad guys with a headshot amp.

[HeroicMass]

I usually run my Drell Adept with my GPS X. It has a nice synergy with the stun effect from reave on troopers and keeps your cool down at a decent level. I believe mine is around 130%ish.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Claymore is a bit too heavy on the drell imo, it works allright but you're really pushing it in the cd department with that.

I carry a talon if I'm playing reapers, or a falcon or krysae for the stagger effect vs cerberus and geth (makes phantoms and hunters a breeze). Falcon or krysae leaves you at 135% which is fast enough. I've tried claymore in the past, I felt like that was a bit too slow, especially considering the punch a leveled talon packs, gives me a 200% recharge while dealiing high damage.

Tldr cd is not that mportant on drell, unless you're priming for other biotics. Still, I think you should keep it at least above 100%, even that is kind of pushing it.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 22 juin 2012 - 02:57 .

[Immaculate J]

Just having the 160%+ recharge speed is good. I hate the GPSMG I convinced that it heals enemies on gold, replace that. I think a carnifex would work better on a drell adept than a claymore...

[UEG Donkey]

newman982 wrote...

Claymore works pretty well. I personally use the talon because I can get head shots reliably when things are staggered from reave. Talon will one shot most bad guys with a headshot amp.

I have the talon III v. the carnifex IX if I can get headshots is the talon that much better?  I don't have much experience with it

[Beerfish]

I like your 1st build. I want max cool down so I can spam the hell out of Reave. That is great for me and great for the rest of the team. Reave and then headshot with the Carny is a nice combo.

[lpconfig]

Talon disregards shield gate. Works very well if you can hit heads pretty well, which isnt too hard since reave will stagger.

[A Wild Snorlax]

UEG Donkey wrote...

newman982 wrote...

Claymore works pretty well. I personally use the talon because I can get head shots reliably when things are staggered from reave. Talon will one shot most bad guys with a headshot amp.

I have the talon III v. the carnifex IX if I can get headshots is the talon that much better?  I don't have much experience with it

Talon is really strong, also requires less preciscion aiming than the carnifex. Much better on the drell imo.. Only downside is you need to be pretty close to use it effectively.

[BoomDynamite]

I try to go with +100% or above. I usually use my Talon V and Vindicator X.

[ZombieGambit]

You should always put at least one point in Pull because it's good for setting off a quick Pull + Reave Explosion in the middle of a group if you're out of grenades.

6/3/6/5/6 would probably be best, you get about a 2 second CD on Pull and ~4 seconds on Reave while carrying the Claymore.

Modifié par ZombieGambit, 22 juin 2012 - 03:02 .

[molecularman]

IMO, reave is a main selling point for drell adepts. Gimping it too much just... sounds wrong. Especially when you play in a biotic team - there the cooldown is extremely important as a long CD will be bottlenecking your team's biosplosion rate severely for the whole game. A bit more powerful gun isn't usually going to make up for that.

[tutzdes]

UEG Donkey, talon is on par with Paladin concerning the headshots and isn't affected by the shield gate. Due to its shotgun nature you MUST use scope though.

[PoetryAvenger]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

newman982 wrote...

Claymore works pretty well. I personally use the talon because I can get head shots reliably when things are staggered from reave. Talon will one shot most bad guys with a headshot amp.

I have the talon III v. the carnifex IX if I can get headshots is the talon that much better?  I don't have much experience with it

Talon is really strong, also requires less preciscion aiming than the carnifex. Much better on the drell imo.. Only downside is you need to be pretty close to use it effectively.

Another thing to keep in mind with the Talon, OP, is that while it's functionally a shotgun it's still technically a heavy pistol. This means that the targeting reticule will bloom when you're moving or firing too fast.

Of course, you can always put a scope on it and fire from cover to snipe with your hand cannon.

[Sailears]

Tbh if you're not using pull, then you don't need the 200%; can slap on a claymore if you like.

Only need close to 200% if you're pull/reaving a lot.

[UEG Donkey]

thanks for the advice I may run the class with power efficiency gear to offset the lower cool down

[cronshaw]

Claymore is probably a little too heavy the suggestions above are all good. If you really want to use a shotgun I've had sucess with the wraith and I only have it at 3, cool down was somewhere around 130%

[UEG Donkey]

molecularman wrote...

IMO, reave is a main selling point for drell adepts. Gimping it too much just... sounds wrong. Especially when you play in a biotic team - there the cooldown is extremely important as a long CD will be bottlenecking your team's biosplosion rate severely for the whole game. A bit more powerful gun isn't usually going to make up for that.

But what is the difference between use reave every five seconds in the pull reave combo and using reave/cluster every five seconds or so?  The class is premised on hitting the ammo crates all around the map and I've got 255 Thermal clips that I don't mind using if I'm out and don't have access to an ammo box. 

Edit: I'm going to try it and post the results, if it doesn't work I think I might try using the talon. Otherwise I'll probably just use the carnifex

Modifié par UEG Donkey, 22 juin 2012 - 03:56 .

[UKStory135]

BoomDynamite wrote...

I try to go with +100% or above. I usually use my Talon V and Vindicator X.

With a Talon V the cooldown is 185%-190%.  If you can get used to the recoil, the gun is deadly. 

[UEG Donkey]

I tried the Eviscerator, Talon, Claymore, and Wraith as substitutes for the Carnifex and I'm probably going to use the Talon for right now.